Druganator Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I am not a modder but i can create stories and i think i have someone else whose willing to help with the story and i have the opening drafted so far i would just like to know if any modders are interested. it doesnt matter if you have experience, all i ask if that you have the desire to attempt something. we all have to start sometime right? if you have any interest PM me and i can give you the details on my idea for the opening and ill take any ideas anyone has on my ideas and if you have any ideas on anything to include that would not affect the canon or would go with it id love to hear it. anyone who is interested either reply here or PM me. we need anyone who can or would like to learn how to model or script or create and edit dialog or model new areas or anything else i havent included. EXPERIENCE DOES NOT MATTER. if you want to mod then you need to start with something. again anyone with any ideas or willing to give whatever time they would like to please reply or PM me thanks in advance. if i dont get anything back i will post my idea for the opening to see if it entices anyone. um by the way could one of the fine moderators here in Holowan Laboratories please change the title to KotOR 3 The End of an Era? I would appreciate it greatly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Hunger Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm the storyline consultant at Team Hssiss, so I can help you with storyline conceptualization and script writing. I had planned my own KOTOR 3 fan fic awhile back involving Darth Andeddu, so I could also add ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 ok i can use any help ill post my idea for the opening "mission" as it were. id love to hear your ideas and thoughts on it. my idea is that the PC will be a sort of peasant on a planet in the outer rim, much like luke skywalker was and what happens is one day while hes/shes out doing whatever his/her duties are (depending on what planet we choose) he/she stumbles upon a crashed ebon hawk and he/she pries open the ramp and goes inside and finds The Exile and Revan amid other returning party members all of whom are incapcitated. he finds some party former party member whose been crushed by a part of the ship and tells your character that she senses greatness in you and that you must help revan and the exile and warn the rest of the galaxy of the impending doom that they just returned from because it is fast on their trail. after reviving The Exile and Revan and repairing T3 and HK and whichever other return members we decide on and getting them to your home Revan and The Exile start to explain the situation while theyre still recovering, then your scanners indicate that there is a large group of people on the outskirts of your property headed towards your home so Revan or the Exile tell you if you can hold them off long enough that they can aid you once disciple (im thinking to use him as a retur party member) has force healed them. so you head out and fight the enemy with the aid of HK and another party member, maybe Visas (she could also guide you through the fight like a sort of tutorial) and then after a certain amount of enemies you are knocked unconscious and Revan and the Exile come out and defeat the rest of them. Then you return to your home and The Exile and Revan explain to you what has happened and ask what happened to whoever it was that died on the hawk(you had to rush revan and the exile and the others out because the hawk was falling apart) you explain it to them and they ask for your help and you agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Hunger Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is a problem with having Revan and the Exile present. Those are PCs from the previous games, and no one will want a mod that defines them so rigidly. Just saying, it's still your mod and you can do whatever you want with it. Another suggestion: you might want to have entirely new NPCs. The dialog for the TSL NPCs is limited to the TSL script, but using new characters can work. T3 has one really great aspect about him: he speaks in binary, so he can speak however you want him to. Also, instead of having HK-47, have an HK-51 instead. I know how much everyone loves HK-47 (he is my favorite party member actually) but his character is a bit overused. An new HK will be interesting. Another idea: use KOTOR era characters that aren't in the game like Lucien Draay and Zayne. They have a wealth of background that you can employ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is a problem with having Revan and the Exile present. Those are PCs from the previous games, and no one will want a mod that defines them so rigidly. Just saying, it's still your mod and you can do whatever you want with it. Another suggestion: you might want to have entirely new NPCs. The dialog for the TSL NPCs is limited to the TSL script, but using new characters can work. T3 has one really great aspect about him: he speaks in binary, so he can speak however you want him to. Also, instead of having HK-47, have an HK-51 instead. I know how much everyone loves HK-47 (he is my favorite party member actually) but his character is a bit overused. An new HK will be interesting. Another idea: use KOTOR era characters that aren't in the game like Lucien Draay and Zayne. They have a wealth of background that you can employ. thats true and i think you have a good idea. i will stick with T3 and use HK-51. um i may use a completely new NPC that returned from wherever Revan and The Exile were to warn the Galaxy and this NPC will be the one that dies in the hawk, but with some advice from SWCity i think this NPC will only explain your force potential and then start to say something about a looming threat but the hawk will start to spark and shake and the NPC dies and you rush out with the two droids. so there will only be HK-51 and T3 that come out with you and then the whole scanner thing happens and you have to fight them off and while your doing so another NPC (probably one of the ones you provided) will come and help you defeat the rest and then passes out (he was in the hawk as well but you thought he was dead and the hawk was becoming unsuitable to remain in) so you drag him back to your home and heal him as best you can and when he wakes up he becomes your sortuv "master" and trains you in the Force.in the diologue with this NPC you will decide the gender of Revan and the exile(separately of course) but i think i will have to stick with the Canon alignment of the exile otherwise the Exile wouldnt have gone out to the unknown regions to find revan. he then helps you to create a lightsaber and tells you hes only got three spare color crystals (Yellow Green and Blue) you choose one and decide if you want a single hilt double bladed or two short (if you choose 2 short then you choose two of the three colors.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatsookey Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 i would like to help you as well wether it be skinning, story refinement, or some other thing like voice acting just let me know what to do and ill be happy to oblige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 i would like to help you as well wether it be skinning, story refinement, or some other thing like voice acting just let me know what to do and ill be happy to oblige if you'd like to do all three I'd be happy to have you do them. we need as many diverse voice actors as possible. we definitely need skinners and god know my story could use refinement. I have a few other ideas but I need to read up on zayne carrick and the rest of his buddies. UPDATE: i have decided that your "master" will be Zayne Carrick and your character will be a distant relative of Zayne's (the reason for your foece sensitivity) your character will not be very strong in the force but the PC will be fit because your character will be of the working class. Zayne will not have been aboard the hawk but he was coming to find your character because he knew your parents who died a few years before in what you believed to be a terrorist attack on the city they were in at the time. Zayne informs you that your parents were part of a rebel organization that wanted to make the planet you live on a better place for commoners. the government simply killed all of the rebels and said that all of the citizens killed were innocents bystanders of a terrorist attack by some offplanet organization. the simple people just accepted this and went on with their lives. Zayne decides to train you in the force and help you to overthrow the government that killed your parents. he says that after you complete this task you will no longer be a padawan but a full fledged jedi. during a break from your training while trying to fix up T3 and HK-51 T3 starts to tell you that there is something big coming and you must prepare yourself for it and asks that you help T3 find others to aid you. you kind of shrug it off as strange problems due to the need of a memory wipe and decide to just wipe his memory. Zayne asks you about what happened when he gets back from town after buying some supplies and you tell him that T3 was acting very strange so Zayne examines him and decides you were probably right but you dont quite believe that hes telling you the truth. After a brief training period zayne says that you he and T3 should head into town to see what they can find out from other locals about the incident with your parents. you find a middle aged woman in town who seems to recognize one of you and you notice her following the three of you. Zayne pulls out his lightsaber and asks her why she has been following you and she denies that she was and suddenly Zayne realizes who she is.... i wont say anything more ATM but id like to hear peoples thoughts UPDAtE: as of right now ive decided on Garqi as the planet. Modules from Dantooine and Dxun could be used. ive decided that the middle aged woman will be Shel Jelavan and she will be searching for Zayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malxados Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'd definitely be willing to help. I have some experience in scripting and dialog, item, character, and placeables editing/making. Tell me what/when you want me to do sumthin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatsookey Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 not a bad idea this would definatly have to be a total conversion mod granted it might take a few years/months but if we have enough people working on it it should be no problem. otherwise ill help as much as i can right now but until the lost ones is done i wont be able to get fully into it but i am glad to see that someone finally came up with the idea for making a "kotor 3" mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'd definitely be willing to help. I have some experience in scripting and dialog, item, character, and placeables editing/making. Tell me what/when you want me to do sumthin. not a bad idea this would definatly have to be a total conversion mod granted it might take a few years/months but if we have enough people working on it it should be no problem. otherwise ill help as much as i can right now but until the lost ones is done i wont be able to get fully into it but i am glad to see that someone finally came up with the idea for making a "kotor 3" mod as of right now im happy to have both of you on board. i will be spending most of my time writing the story and getting as much feedback as possible from anyone and everyone willing to give me feedback. i am also going to ,per Logan23's advice, attempt to learn as much about modding as possible in order to do what others dont have time to volunteer for and if things come up to finish what others started. if you have any ideas for quests or missions or gameplay additions or anything you would like to see in an as close to canon kotor 3 as possible please dont hesitate to pm me with them or to post them for additional feedback and whether or not myself and others think it would be a good idea. this is by no means "my" mod i want as many people to affect the storyline and gameplay as possible. i welcome whatever ideas anyone would like to see executed in this mod. im not having this mod made for me i making it for fellow kotor fans to enjoy and id like as many of you that want to be a part of its creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disbeliever Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 New areas are always a plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 New areas are always a plus once I learn module building I promise there will be as many new areas as time and skill allows. I want this to be a mid that people will want to play more than once. and play dark and light with a different outcome and play as male and female with different possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malxados Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 attempt to learn as much about modding as possible I think that would be good, as it would also help you understand the different things that would need to be made/changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 I think that would be good, as it would also help you understand the different things that would need to be made/changed. quite true. UPDATE: it will take place about 6 years after TSL and lets just say if you read the KotOR comic series youll recognize a few characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan23 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hey, I would say to save yourself from creating a new ship for the party, you could have your party working on getting the crashed Ebon Hawk fixed as your first main quest. Then while this is going on you can develop why the PC would leave the planet and go with the Jedi master and whom ever else in the party. You can have the home planet and maybe a close moon/or space station to explore. Once the Ebon Hawk is fixed then you can jump to many more planets. This all depends on what your plot outline is. Logan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hey, I would say to save yourself from creating a new ship for the party, you could have your party working on getting the crashed Ebon Hawk fixed as your first main quest. Then while this is going on you can develop why the PC would leave the planet and go with the Jedi master and whom ever else in the party. You can have the home planet and maybe a close moon/or space station to explore. Once the Ebon Hawk is fixed then you can jump to many more planets. This all depends on what your plot outline is. Logan thats actually not far from what i was planning. i think i may scrap the idea about the parents because that just seems a little too cliche. so you merely go into town for supplies to fix the Hawk when Zayne meets his old acquaintance. im actually working on the opening crawl ATM i think its coming along fairly well and to go along with the star wars tradition the ebon hawk will be seen in space soon to crash on Garqi. Update: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Star Wars The Knights of the Old Republic III The End of an Era Six years after the Sith Triumvirate was defeated the Republic still hangs by a thread. Many systems wish to leave due to the ever failing economy of the wheezing behemoth that cannot seem to catch its breath. There has been no word of Revan or The Jedi Exile for six years. There have been no sightings of the Ebon Hawk in any star systems or starports for six long years. Even the greatest of patriots have lost hope. Few can even remember what hope felt like. Without heroes to look to the people of the Republic have only corrupt bureaucrats and wealthy bigots in the public eye. A galaxy wide depression has set in and with no one to look to for guidance, many have turned to crime. Piracy is rampant along Hyperspace routes and the forces of the Republic have dwindled to barely enough troops to protect t he Galactic Core. Trade has virtually stopped due to the fear of piracy. Systems in the Outer-Rim are dying. They are subject to constant attacks by pirates and crime syndicates seeking slaves, resources and starports to control. Planetary governments are easily overthrown and replaced by harsher more sinister leaders. The Republic can afford to do nothing, the Jedi are still lost with no sign of a return. There are some small groups who have resisted, set up underground resistance fighters to try and help suffering citizens and systems. They have yet to free a single planet from bondage. On the enslaved planet of Garqi a young fringer orphaned by the Pirate syndicate known only as, Fuerte aumento de la Muerte, has started the days work..... again could a moderater please change the title to KotOR III The End of an Era? Done, please note you are only allowed one update post a day, so if your post is still the last one in the thread edit your previous one if it has been less than a day since you posted it. Thanks. -RH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikmin Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'll help. I'm good at scripting, dialog and stuff like that. I would love to help work on a story that would tie TSL and TOR together.(while still being a satisfying conclusion to K2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Hunger Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 One point I would like to make: Make sure that you create a strong enemy for the game, but avoid using the True Sith. In fact, try giving the Sith a minimal appearance, perhaps you could have an evil splinter faction of the Jedi (perhaps you could have the Jedi Covenant be reborn) or some new Force-User group. I would still have some Sith entity towards the end (possibly manipulating everything). My advice would be either Darth Andeddu like I was planning...or you could explain what happened to Revan and the Exile via this: Darth Nihilus was reborn through the Exile, because he secretly stored his essence inside the Exile after death and later manifested (hence fulfilling Krayt's statement about surviving through his 'armor'). Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'll help. I'm good at scripting, dialog and stuff like that. glad to have you on board so now its comprised of Druganator GTA SWCity Lord of Hunger Yatsookey Malxados Pikmin an maybe Lord McGuffin (im unaware if he has a copy of TSL) as of right now the only thing i need aside from help with critiquing what ive wrote is someone who can skin a battered HK-51 and a carbon scored T3. also im thinking of some sort of half tunic half armor for the PC's default clothing. if anyone has any ideas as to what could work or would like to make or skin something and show it to me feel free. if you do any work including just giving me advice i will credit you. Edit: One point I would like to make: Make sure that you create a strong enemy for the game, but avoid using the True Sith. In fact, try giving the Sith a minimal appearance, perhaps you could have an evil splinter faction of the Jedi (perhaps you could have the Jedi Covenant be reborn) or some new Force-User group. I would still have some Sith entity towards the end (possibly manipulating everything). My advice would be either Darth Andeddu like I was planning...or you could explain what happened to Revan and the Exile via this: Darth Nihilus was reborn through the Exile, because he secretly stored his essence inside the Exile after death and later manifested (hence fulfilling Krayt's statement about surviving through his 'armor'). Just a thought. as of right now there is a dark side force user that will be the enemy in the end and it will not be the true sith. i havent quite decided the details but im going to voice him and hell have an eastern european accent. ....you know Kalo da? (reference to T.H.U.G. in case no one catches it) Edit: i just refreshed my memory on Darth Andeddu and i think he could play a pivotal role in the story if you would like to write him in. i think it would be interesting if you included The Malevolence as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan23 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hey, On the topic of enemies, I'm thinking this is the time when the Jedi order is trying to refine themselves, know who they are and what they represent. Since most are young Jedi since most Jedi masters are dead due to the events in kotor2, you can show the struggle of the rebirth and how like the Sith have internal clashes so do Jedi. This can open to ideas of opposing groups who want to set the new rules of the Jedi Order. Many of these are those who survived the Purge, there will be some that feel the Jedi are to passive and need an edge so this will not happen again. Your PC and master along with party are kind of the mediator or person trying to find a common ground and hoping that this does not lead to another small Civil war among the Jedi. The question how do you handle the Exile's Jedi (or as Kreia says children with lightsabers) apprentices? Logan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikmin Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 If I understand this properly we should be able to have the choice of Revan/Exile's alignment correct? If so I think that Traya should play a role(Either Atris or Kreia depending on the Exile's alignment.) EDIT: I like Logan's idea of the jedi being unsure of who they are. And what do with do with the Lost Jedi?(Exile's Apprentices) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hey, On the topic of enemies, I'm thinking this is the time when the Jedi order is trying to refine themselves, know who they are and what they represent. Since most are young Jedi since most Jedi masters are dead due to the events in kotor2, you can show the struggle of the rebirth and how like the Sith have internal clashes so do Jedi. This can open to ideas of opposing groups who want to set the new rules of the Jedi Order. Many of these are those who survived the Purge, there will be some that feel the Jedi are to passive and need an edge so this will not happen again. Your PC and master along with party are kind of the mediator or person trying to find a common ground and hoping that this does not lead to another small Civil war among the Jedi. The question how do you handle the Exile's Jedi (or as Kreia says children with lightsabers) apprentices? Logan If I understand this properly we should be able to have the choice of Revan/Exile's alignment correct? If so I think that Traya should play a role(Either Atris or Kreia depending on the Exile's alignment.) EDIT: I like Logan's idea of the jedi being unsure of who they are. And what do with do with the Lost Jedi?(Exile's Apprentices) thats a very good idea on possibly including the lost jedi and maybe including traya. the only problem with traya is no matter which ending is chosen traya dies. not to mention if you choose that the exile was dark side then he/she would have never left to find revan. so i think the exiles alignment may need to be set but if it isnt then if you choose darkside then there will be no lost jedi. and i definitely think that haing traditionalists and progressive jedi would be a very interesting idea. *strokes chin* any thoughts on my opening crawl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan23 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 The crawler is good, just want to mention that... The Republic would be on a upswing since Telos station is a success and the Sith were defeated by the Republic fleet. Most people would not know that a Jedi was involved. You can take the pirate and have it due to the death of Goto. Mira said on kotor2 that the lost of Goto would cause a destabilization of the Crime Lords. You could have a crime lord war going on...this could be a major issue for the republic to control. Think of it as the war on drugs, very hard to win. I like the Title:) Logan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 The crawler is good, just want to mention that... The Republic would be on a upswing since Telos station is a success and the Sith were defeated by the Republic fleet. Most people would not know that a Jedi was involved. You can take the pirate and have it due to the death of Goto. Mira said on kotor2 that the lost of Goto would cause a destabilization of the Crime Lords. You could have a crime lord war going on...this could be a major issue for the republic to control. Think of it as the war on drugs, very hard to win. I like the Title:) Logan haha thats also good idea about pirates and splinters of the exchange wArring over territory the republic has abandoned. i think the core worlds could be on an upswing but further from the core will be worse economically. what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikmin Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 the exile was dark side then he/she would have never left to find revan. Yeah the Exile does leave to find Revan, no matter what the alignment. TOR game took into account the exile's possible alignment and she/he still left for Revan. And yes if the exile was darkside in cut content all the party members die. Are we going to take cut content into account? Because there is a little TSLCR secret I might be able to let you in on.(my team doesn't even know yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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