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I'm no Star-anything fan but didn't they reboot it in a way that integrated the old story as an alternate dimension timeline or something? Thereby acknowledging that it did happen and satisfying old school fans across the globe? :halo2:

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We should address the particular attributes of the new Star Trek in order to reach an objective forum opinion on the matter, rather than resorting to vague generalizations. If a thing is sh*t, then it must have sh*t qualities in particular that help us identify us as such. ;)

 

*(Fish on.)*

 

JJ Abrams is merely a director, but it is his reinterpretation of the entire pacing of the Star Trek form of storytelling that has led to the success of his new franchise. He specifically brings the influence of the Star Wars movies into his directing. Fast-paced adventure draws in the audience, as George Lucas demonstrated with his ground (and space) breaking movies.

 

The placement of Ambassador Spock's trip in the timeline is what makes the whole thing acceptable to us hard core Trekkies. The past becomes the future, and all teevee series and movies can happily co-exist. And they can make many more, with an untold future laid out before us...

 

Say, with the reference to 'Admiral Archer's pet beagle' in the first movie, perhaps they could bring Scott Bakula in for a cameo. :) That would be super.

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pacing of the Star Trek form of storytelling

 

There's no storytelling in JJs Star Trek anymore. It's mindless action. It's a Die Hard.

 

He specifically brings the influence of the Star Wars

 

Star Wars is also low on plot and high on bull****. This is not a good thing.

 

George Lucas demonstrated with his ground (and space) breaking movies

 

George Lucas is an imbecile. You can see that very clearly when he's giving free reign over his projects: You get Jar Jar Binks. You get Darth Icky.

 

hard core Trekkies

 

Us hard-core Trekkers however, we weep.

 

Scott Bakula

 

Why not? Enterprise was really damn bad as well.

 

The heart and soul of Star Trek is "Space Seed", "The Conscience of the King", "The City on the Edge of Forever", "The Inner Light", "Chain of Command", "Tapestry", "In the Pale Moonlight", "Far Beyond the Stars", "It's Only a Paper Moon", "The Thaw", "Living Witness", and yes, also Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

 

They are actual Science Fiction. They examine the human condition, societies and our place in them. How society, politics, science and technology influence and form us and our ideals and morality.

 

In contrast, JJ Abrams created an action flick that provides momentary diversion. He is the 50¢ pack of instant ramen to Star Trek's 5-course menu.

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I watched a bit of The Phantom Menace today. For every terrible line uttered, every appearance of Jar Jar Binks, even every time a piece of acting so wooden that Pinocchio would be ashamed slipped through onto the screen, I thought about Darth Icky.

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The star wars 'prequels' don't exist, neither do any further new ones.

 

There are simply the originally three I remember as a child.

 

Didn't the director intentionally start with the fourth movie in the series or something? :confused:

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