Bruintone Posted May 31, 2001 Share Posted May 31, 2001 I really wonder if JKII will be better than JK? I mean JK did make the game of the year status. What do you guys think? Yeah, let's leave the fact that the QuakeIII engine will be used. That does not create the game, if you know what I mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boba Rhett Posted May 31, 2001 Share Posted May 31, 2001 It's will be so much better that it will shock and amaze you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 31, 2001 Share Posted May 31, 2001 All I have to say is that Raven is making the game. I trust Raven very much. They always make good fsp's. An I am sure it will better better than jk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus Posted May 31, 2001 Share Posted May 31, 2001 Not sure if it will be better, though it will still be allot of fun! All it needs now it live actors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boba Rhett Posted May 31, 2001 Share Posted May 31, 2001 I'm affraid that's a big negative on that. The cutscenes will be ingame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneCanoli Posted May 31, 2001 Share Posted May 31, 2001 I think it has a good chance of topping JK. I won't have expectations that high though, in fear of being dissapointed. Â Whatever happens, I'll always have great memories of Dark Forces and JK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted May 31, 2001 Share Posted May 31, 2001 Judging by the new screen shots, I have to say that the cutscenes will look spectacular - even though they are ingame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruintone Posted June 2, 2001 Author Share Posted June 2, 2001 What other games have Raven made? I do have oodles of games myself, maybe I have one of theirs. Hmmmm.... I say it's tough to top Jedi Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arragorn Posted June 2, 2001 Share Posted June 2, 2001 Even though Raven really creates great FPS this game won't be an FPS only but a third person slasher too. While I have every confidence to them and have played many of their games (and found almost every one of them incredible) there was one particular game I played and actually didn't like and that was their only 3d PS, Heretic 2. I don't know if the game did well when it was released and I might be a minority but I found it lacking in many ways... I just hope they won't make JK2 like H2 allthough that's not very likely to happen. What could, actually happen is to repeat the same mistakes they did on H2, especially if the game seemed flawless at the time of its release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arragorn Posted June 2, 2001 Share Posted June 2, 2001 Oups, same post two times... Â [ June 02, 2001: Message edited by: Aragorn ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted June 2, 2001 Share Posted June 2, 2001 Soldier of Fortune.... Â Â ummmm....... thinking....... thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Vector Posted June 2, 2001 Share Posted June 2, 2001 Originally posted by Boba Rhett: <STRONG>I'm affraid that's a big negative on that. The cutscenes will be ingame. </STRONG> Â Which is a big positive IMO. Â What other games have Raven made? Â Their most recent game is Voyager: Elite Force, which is really nice, although not nearly as good as I want JK2 to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruintone Posted June 3, 2001 Author Share Posted June 3, 2001 Hmmmm, Soldier of Fortune, huh? Very good game. Ok, BRING IT ON! WOOHOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Jim Posted June 3, 2001 Share Posted June 3, 2001 I started playin Elite Force after I found out Raven was making JK2. It's gonna be good. At least it will bring JK back to the mainstream. It can only get better from there. I'm still hopin for a user friendly map maker for it. Somethin I can play around with for my own amusement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruintone Posted June 3, 2001 Author Share Posted June 3, 2001 Was it Elite Force the game that had architecture that looked almost 'organic'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwup Posted June 3, 2001 Share Posted June 3, 2001 what makes and breaks an FPS game is the MP imo. So, as long as they have great levels that are a blast to play in...spaceport, cargo, and gantry from MotS are perfect examples. I dont want to play 2 game lvls and maybe 3 user levels for at least a year after release like in MotS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruintone Posted June 5, 2001 Author Share Posted June 5, 2001 Good point. But honestly, a good story driven plot makes the sp side of the game, and good mp maps for the multiplayer side would make for a very good game to appeal everyone. I hope the guys @ Raven are reading this, and put some of those classic mp maps in this game. Personally, Cloud City, Cloud City Gantry, Tatooine Homestead, Canyon Oasis, Battlegroung Jedi, and Valley of the Jedi are all classics that should be implemented. But, we'll see....if not, we'll make them! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 Elite Force only looked organic when it was intended. The last thing you need to worry about with game engines is look too organic... heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 Just FYI, here's complete list of Raven's games...as displayed on their site...  Black Crypt ShadowCaster CyClones Heretic Hexen Hexen: Deathkings Of The Dark Citadel Necrodome MageSlayer Take No Prisoners Hexen II Hexen II: Portals Of Praevus Heretic II Soldier Of Fortune ST Voyager: Elite Force  Guess you can add..  Solder Of Fortune II Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast  And after they've finished those two games, I personally hope they make...  Heretic III Hexen III   EDIT: Deleted the dupes. Sorry about that - had trouble re-accessing the forum when I posted this.  [ June 08, 2001: Message edited by: StormHammer ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndrix Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 Just in case we didn't all get it the first time, hey StormHammer. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letalis Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 It's as simple as: the 15 sec, handy-cam video was better than JK plus all the mods put together, not to mention the screenies. Â But those things alone are already better, how can the game not be!? Â Well, that's my opinion at least, whatever that counts for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Saint Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 Well in term of graphics it'll be more then better it's gonna superfly. Â However i'm a little affraid that the game will eventually be a bit short. Now according to many e3 previews/interviews Raven already said that it wouldnt be as big as JK, but....well how shall i put it....i personally didnt feel as if JK's levels were really that big. Maybe it just seemed that way because of the somewhat simplistic textures and stuff.(at least thats what 1 would say nowadays) I'm sure many dont agree with me i can understand that but still i worry that the game will be to short. Lets just hope that MP will compensate for that.(should that be the case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Jim Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 I'll say it again. I really want a user friendly map maker. If they get the multiplay right and they have a mainstream map maker available, the game will be playable for a long, long time. Â One thing they also need to be sure of it including lots of taunts. Elite Force is limited to one taunt per character within multiplay. That gets old fast. JK had a pretty extensive taunt list and that's often overlooked. If there is a large selection of taunts that players can trigger and hear while all other players here them also, it adds a lot to multi play. I really hope they remember to include them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie_Rips Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 Well, althgouh topping everyones original re-action and emotion they felt ,when playing JK ,will be a dificult task, believing that JK2 will not be the better of the 2 games is a harder notion to swollow. Nearly 7 years have past since development started on JK, which is about a century in technology years. Being in the business, and knowing a little bit about the enternal make-up of Raven,( I'm in Orange County, which is farily close to Raven, as I work for a develoment company) through its years of experiance and staff off "all game" developers, not to mention their track record with game development( SOF,EF,ETC)I would bet my left arm that this game is going to set the bar a little higher, as did JK. Although the initial reaction and overwealming exitement we endured when JK was relased, due to the fact it was the first of its kind, will never be matched, I can gurantee that there are going to be aspects of the JO that will far exeed our expecations and more.....JO will be the Action game of the year for 2002...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie_Rips Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 Well, althgouh topping everyones original re-action and emotion they felt ,when playing JK ,will be a dificult task, believing that JK2 will not be the better of the 2 games is a harder notion to swollow. Nearly 7 years have past since development started on JK, which is about a century in technology years. Being in the business, and knowing a little bit about the enternal make-up of Raven,( I'm in Orange County, which is farily close to Raven, as I work for a develoment company) through its years of experiance and staff off "all game" developers, not to mention their track record with game development( SOF,EF,ETC)I would bet my left arm that this game is going to set the bar a little higher, as did JK. Although the initial reaction and overwealming exitement we endured when JK was relased, due to the fact it was the first of its kind, will never be matched, I can gurantee that there are going to be aspects of the JO that will far exeed our expecations and more.....JO will be the Action game of the year for 2002...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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