Guest Vagabond Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 I'd really like to see the Moldy Crow in exquisite detail this time around. Even better, it would be excellent if we were able to wander around inside it, inspecting all the secrets that have thus far been concealed beneath her rusting hull. Maybe there's a turbo-laser battery we could man and shoot enemies with. Maybe there are secret smuggling compartments, holding ancient Jedi artifacts. Maybe there's a Jedi training remote where you can hone your skills. Even better, it would be cool if going inside the Moldy Crow and sitting at the cockpit was the mechanism to move between several of the missions, where applicable of course. I think that would make the game truly immersive. Questions? Comments? [ June 12, 2001: Message edited by: Vagabond ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndrix Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Ah the moldy crow, one of the things I most loved about the original DF was seeing the cut scene with the moldy crow flying to the rebels after the first mission. Remember this line "kyle delivers the plans to the rebel alliance...", so many times I heard that playing the demo before I got the full game. Not seen quite as much in JK as was in DF, the start of most DF missions had the moldy crow lifting off, a nice addition to the game back in those days. I would point out the fact of scale, it would have to be made bigger. When you looked at you model, kyle, and walked next to the ship it looked as though he wouldnt even fit in there, let a lone Jan as well. Like excalibur to Arthur, The crow would be a great addition this time around to help kyle, maybe even a level where you anchor yourself to an enemy ship trying to escape and burn through thier hull only to have to fight the enemy crew all the way up to the cockpit. [ June 12, 2001: Message edited by: Syndrix ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Excellent idea, Syndrix, burning through the hull of a ship and boarding her. Kind of like the start of Episode IV in reverse...this time Kyle would do the boarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En Taro Taldarin Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 All of this would be great in-game. Having you go into the cockpit as a transfer to the next mission would provide for excellent immersion. I believe you mean turbo-laser battery Vagabond. I don't think we'll see one, 'cause only capital-ships or gunships carry those. However, we may see laser turrets like on the Millenium Falcon. That is probably what you meant, but I love to correct people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Jim Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Didn't the Moldy Crow crash in JK. I thought it was totalled there. Still, the Moldy Crow II would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhuf Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Yeah the Crow is toast. It crashed and burned at the Valley of the Jedi. Last I saw, Kyle was using a Tyderium class shuttle in Mysteries of the Sith. But, still, the Crow is cool and Kyle should just buy a new one. I like that breach, board and commandeer mission idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsbuckeye21 Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 So would you guys prefer the same design or a whole new ship? I'm not sure yet. It would be fun to walk around inside of it, or start a mission by collecting ammo there and then stepping off and have Jan meet you at the end. I don't really think it'd work for the player to be shooting, though. Just short of switching to a joystick for that short time, it could feel a little too Rebel Assultish. (Which would offer as much gameplay as Minesweeper, IMO. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Hmmm, good question bucky. I think they should take the Star Trek movie approach, whenver the latest incarnation of the Enterprise gets destroyed. So, I think they should update and modernize the Moldy Crow, but keep the same basic structure, and then call it the Moldy Crow II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Wasn't the Tyderium shuttle stolen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Krayt Tion Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Not to be a punk ass but the Federation uses letters instead of numbers as the main distinction for the latest incarnation of vessels like the Enterprise, for example, the Enterprise E was destroyed when they self destructed to nail the Borg in First Contact. Watch me in turn get busted by a Trekie for false info. As much as I liked the Moldy Crow, might I also suggest that we not use the old Jan drops kyle off bit for missions in JK2. I'm all for the next generation Moldy Crow making an appearance though. Perhaps it can be the.. uh... Moldier Crow... hmmm how about no on that actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Yes, he jumps into it at the end of the very first mission at Mysteries of the Sith. I doubt that an Imperial shuttle is Kyle's first choice as his main ride. It's not casual enough He needs something that may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsbuckeye21 Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Originally posted by Vagabond: <STRONG>Hmmm, good question bucky. I think they should take the Star Trek movie approach, whenver the latest incarnation of the Enterprise gets destroyed. So, I think they should update and modernize the Moldy Crow, but keep the same basic structure, and then call it the Moldy Crow II </STRONG> Yeah, that makes sense. The good ol' Crow really doesn't have that much room to walk around in it, but I have to admit that the basic design is pretty fierce looking, and not too similar to any other ship in the SW universe! (Correct me if I'm wrong, because I really don't know that much about the SW universe. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsbuckeye21 Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Yikes! It must be everyone's lunch break now! hehe... But why don't you like the idea of getting dropped off, Krayt? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 LOL....Moldier Crow How about: Stinky Swan Funky Fowl Mucky Mynock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhuf Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Kyle's too old to be trapsing around the galaxy in a junker hotrod. He needs to ramp up the style a bit, something roomier with space for the wife, kids, soccer team, ancient Jedi Relics, and 'stuff' that he will doubtless need to 'haul.' Seinar Systems is having a sale on their Galactic Minivan line of personal transport. Although I think Kyle as more of an SUV type of Jedi. Maybe graduate to a Corellian corvette class ship: the Nasty Nerfherder or Rotting Bantha. Maybe he could buy Dash Rendar's Outrider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 He only stole the shuttle and took it to the sith temple so that if anyone was watching it would just look like the imperials were there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 I like the thought of a Corellian Corvette - I've always had a soft spot for them. They just look so cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En Taro Taldarin Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Why the heck does everyone think Kyle is so old? He's only 5 years older than he was in MOTS tops. I know that because in the most recent chat with LEC, Haden Blackman said JK2 took place 13-14 years after the Battle of Yavin, which converts to 9-10 years after the Battle of Endor. MOTS took place somewhere in between JK2 and the Thrawn trilogy, because it couldn't be after JK2 and Mara Jade only became good after the Thrawn trilogy. So for all we know, Kyle could only be one year older! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 I'd like them to call it the "decaying chicken" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 What's wrong with Spring Chicken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 How about the "decomposing fish" or the "maggot-infested horse corpse" maybe just the "horse corpse" [ June 12, 2001: Message edited by: matt-windu ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En Taro Taldarin Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Stop guys, this is becoming a topic that does not belong in the Jedi Temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 We are dicussing potential names for a ship in JK2. Why doesn't it belong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted June 12, 2001 Share Posted June 12, 2001 Originally posted by En Taro Taldarin: <STRONG>Why the heck does everyone think Kyle is so old? He's only 5 years older than he was in MOTS tops. I know that because in the most recent chat with LEC, Haden Blackman said JK2 took place 13-14 years after the Battle of Yavin, which converts to 9-10 years after the Battle of Endor. MOTS took place somewhere in between JK2 and the Thrawn trilogy, because it couldn't be after JK2 and Mara Jade only became good after the Thrawn trilogy. So for all we know, Kyle could only be one year older!</STRONG> Yeah, you're right. According to the official EU timeline (as in that included on the Behind The Magic CD), MotS takes place 10 years after the Battle of Yavin - just before Luke sets up the Jedi Academy (ie, the Jedi Academy trilogy). So if JKII is 13-14 years after ANH, it's only up to 4 years post-MotS. I can't remember how old Kyle was supposed to be in DF - maybe in his early twenties? That would put him around his mid-thirties in JKII (I'm nearly that myself), so he's not that old. As for the Moldy Crow...yeah, I agree that it should be another ship, not the original which crashed. Call it the Moldy Crow II, just for consistency - like Boba Fett has Slave I and then Slave II in the novels (I think). Damn these Jedi Mind Tricks - my memory is going. Anyway, I liked the look of the Moldy Crow, so I think his new ship should be something similar. And I don't think he bought it. He should be a real Jedi Outcast, down on his luck, struggling to make ends meet as a non-Jedi. Maybe he wins the ship in a game of Sabacc...like good ol' Han won the MF. Or maybe...just maybe...Jan Ors used her l337 skills to get the old Crow put back together... After all, where was she during MotS? She had connections, technical ability, and she could have been painstakingly rebuilding the ship, piece by piece... Then again, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsbuckeye21 Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Originally posted by Wilhuf: <STRONG>...something roomier with space for the wife, kids, soccer team, ancient Jedi Relics, and 'stuff' that he will doubtless need to 'haul.' Seinar Systems is having a sale on their Galactic Minivan line of personal transport. Although I think Kyle as more of an SUV type of Jedi.</STRONG> LOL! Looks like he'll be too busy on Tuesdays hauling the soccer team around to get medival on some stormie ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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