Meksilon Posted January 13, 2002 Author Share Posted January 13, 2002 Originally posted by NiKo hey guys, let me talk to him... hey mek, i'm NiKo.....i used to talk to satan and be a bellboy making resevations in hell... i see your name on the list buddy... you'r probably asking yourself why you'r going to hell.... well,Daily Masturbation is a sin.... tsk tsk Masturbation is no sin!!!!! =mek= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted January 13, 2002 Share Posted January 13, 2002 Originally posted by Meksilon Masturbation is no sin!!!!! =mek= It's called having sex with yourself, and since sex before marriage is such a sin, that means your going to hell buddy Eeeeek Wait a sec... did you just practically admit that you masturbate?!?!?! And NiKo? Am I on the list? What am I going to hell for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brief Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Originally posted by Meksilon Masturbation is no sin!!!!! <!-- begin religion rant --> Is not? Well, I suppose technically, it might not be, if you never think about anyone while in the act of masturbation. Perhaps you've heard of the seven deadly sins? Pride Envy Wrath (Anger) Sloth Avarice (Greed) Gluttony Lust What was that last one? Oh, yeah, Lust. lust n. 1. strong sexual desire without idealized or spiritualized feelings 2. any passionate desire v.t. to have a passionate desire --The New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary of the English Language Oops. Hmm. Looks like if you have intense sexual desire, as one almost certainly does in the act of masturbation, guess what? You've just sinned. What's that? The seven deadly sins aren't specifically mentioned in the Bible, you say? Well, the Bible does say this: Thou shall not commit adultery. --Genesis 20:14 You say you've never committed adultery? Okay, but this is what Jesus says: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. --Matthew 5:28 Oh. Say, did you lust for someone while you were masturbating? Yes? Then you've committed adultery. The simple fact of the matter is that all of us have sinned, in one way or another, and have done so numerous times. If you are true believers of the faith, then it is not your place to place judgement. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; --Romans 3:23 I'm a sinner. So's everyone else. The point of the Gospel is not to point fingers at everyone and say to them, "you have sinned." The point is to let them know that while everyone, including yourself, has sinned, and by God's justice, deserve to die and burn in hell... it need not be the case, for though we have all sinned, the atonement for our sins has already been paid in the form of Jesus Christ and the crucifixion. <!-- end religion rant --> Thank you, and good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiKo Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Brief, exelent job! i would shake your hand but.....ya know, the whole topic..... so mek, you'r going straight to hell..... *nudges mek and winks* (psst, i'd take some vaseline with me 'mr. spanky) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush122 Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Originally posted by NiKo Brief, exelent job! i would shake your hand but.....ya know, the whole topic..... so mek, you'r going straight to hell..... *nudges mek and winks* (psst, i'd take some vaseline with me 'mr. spanky) well, in that case im gonna get a huge tank of vaseline...cause im going to hell three times over? Niko, do you think Satan will think masturbating 28-35 times a week is a sin???? ...*gulp*... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fender Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Originally posted by HaggisMcMuffin Smores!!? Smores are melted marshmellows (usually roasted over a campfire) with hersheys chocolate between two gram-crackers. It's an american thing I guess. I know where I wish I was right now...... GOD Bless America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaggisMcMuffin Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 Fender: hehe =) Meksilon: Actually according to the catholic church, masterbation is a sin. It's because your not supposed to "send out the little troopers" except for procreation. I know this because I've heard about their ideas of Artificial Insemination. There are only certain methods of AI that are OK. This means that contraceptives are condemned by the Catholic Church as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiKo Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 hey everyone!! its mexican night in hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 Ooh! I'll bring the salsa dip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush122 Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 Originally posted by Feral Ooh! I'll bring the salsa dip! ive got the bean burritos covered!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fender Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 And I'll rent Hell Hall! I'll make a mosh pit, and bring some mosh music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush122 Posted January 16, 2002 Share Posted January 16, 2002 Originally posted by fender And I'll rent Hell Hall! I'll make a mosh pit, and bring some mosh music! not before i blast some punk and stiff little fingers at ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Stalkey Posted January 16, 2002 Share Posted January 16, 2002 Why are you so sure that God exists? If i were a Hindu or a Buddist would i go to your hell for not believing in your god? Not likely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brief Posted January 16, 2002 Share Posted January 16, 2002 Originally posted by Dark Stalkey Why are you so sure that God exists? If i were a Hindu or a Buddist would i go to your hell for not believing in your god? Not likely... I'd say that you'd probably go to hell regardless, though the reason might be different. What you or I believe is irrelavent regarding what the deciding factor is for one to be condemned to hell. What matters is what's true. However, in religion, what's true is not something tangible through our means--it requires a leap of faith. Therefore I will not try to argue with others as to what religion is "right" or what religion is "wrong"; such an endeavor would be an exercise in futility, because no one will be able to produce any kind of evidence solid enough to prove or disprove something, nor is one side likely able to convince the other in sharing the same opinion. So, in answer to your first question (Why are you so sure that God exists?), it's something called "faith." faith n. Confident belief in the truth, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence --Dictionary.com Even atheists have faith, whether they know it or not--they strongly believe that there is no god. Now, will you go to hell believe you don't believe in the same God that I believe in? Maybe. Maybe not. If there is indeed a hell and a God (or gods), chances are you'll end up there, but not necessarily because you don't believe in the same God I do. What the %^@# does that mean, you say? Well, here's a simplified explanation... let's say that Christianity/Catholicism got it wrong, and that Hinduism/Buddhism got it right. What happens then? Everything is karma-based. When you die, what happens to your astral being depends on your karma. The sum of your positive and negative energies. Most people will not have enough positive energy to reach Nirvana. Many will be sent to hell to work off their negative karma, and might be reincarnated. Some will be reincarnated as lower beings, and some as humans, and continue to work on their karma. But since they have no memory of their previous lives, some might be worse off the next time they die. What religion you believed in at this point is quite useless, because in the end, it's the karma that counts, not what you believed in. And if Christianity/Catholicism go it right? Well, you didn't believe in God, so... "Keaton always said, he didn't believe in God, but he's afraid of Him. Well, I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Kaiser Soze." --Verbal Kint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted January 16, 2002 Share Posted January 16, 2002 I reckon there's different gods depending on the religion/faith. Such as Bhuddism has their own God, christians have thiers and so on and so forth. Just like dogs have their own god, elephants have thiers, dolphins have a god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 Originally posted by Natty I reckon there's different gods depending on the religion/faith. Such as Bhuddism has their own God, christians have thiers and so on and so forth. Just like dogs have their own god, elephants have thiers, dolphins have a god... Hey Natty Your thoughts remind me of some philosopher's point of view.. he said that people think of God as a (physically) copy of themselves, so if animals were to have a religion, there would be a dog god for dogs, an ant god for ants and so on.. The point is that everyone sees God in there own way, and no matter if you are catholic, orthodox, buddist, marxist (actually, that's not a religion, GB122 ), whatever, you just have to be faithful to your god and to yourself. I think religion is something personal, it concerns nobody but the person himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush122 Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Originally posted by Honey marxist (actually, that's not a religion, GB122 ) i know........i was making fun of fender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrell Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Originally posted by Natty I reckon there's different gods depending on the religion/faith. Such as Bhuddism has their own God, christians have thiers and so on and so forth. Just like dogs have their own god, elephants have thiers, dolphins have a god... To Natty ("Satan's Bytch" dosen't set a good example as a moderator)... Now this is odd coming from a Christian, as are most of the others of your posts. For instance: do you talk to God Natty? I thought prayer was normal? Do you even know the Ten Commandments? Specifically the first[/b] Commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." [EXODUS XX:3] There is more on this: [EXODUS XXII:20] "He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." You see, all other gods are false gods created by man and therefore are dead gods. If you create a god it's a dead god and not a living God (of which there is and can be only one). These quotes are from the King James version, please look them up in NIV if you don't comprehend their meanings. You said statements like "Oh my God" are fine. [EXODUS XXII:28] "Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people." [LEVITICUS XIX:12] "And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God. I am the LORD" Homosexuality, socially acceptable, let's look at the wider LUST picture, that covers most hedrosexual relations. It's normal. It's what everyone is like, what everyone does, normal people. Well? [EXODUS XXIII:2] "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil..." Your arguments are all completely ludicrous, if you're a Christian your argument needs to be Biblically based. Originally posted by Meksilon A few words: 1. Gays are a delicate issue I personally beleive homosexual relaionships are wrong, but it isn't wrong to be gay. (ie as the Bible says "homosexual offenders will be sent to hell"). 2. Religion either makes a person a part of that religion or hypercritical. 1 is wrong, 2 is right. Let's quickly expand: LUST is wrong, Homosexuality being a type of Lust, is, by definition, wrong. I can admire a man's good looks and that doesn’t make me in any way homosexual. 2 is something I have never heard before but if you think about it it's completely true. Remember "normal people" do not enter the Kingdom of God, that is why we are Christian Natty, so that He may grant us eternal life. Let me repeat that, this is how you know it to be true: "normal people" will not inherit the kingdom of God, as only the children of God will. And He speaks to us if we listen. Ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duder Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrell 1 is wrong, 2 is right. Let's quickly expand: LUST is wrong, Homosexuality being a type of Lust, is, by definition, wrong. I can admire a man's good looks and that doesn’t make me in any way homosexual. 2 is something I have never heard before but if you think about it it's completely true. Remember "normal people" do not enter the Kingdom of God, that is why we are Christian Natty, so that He may grant us eternal life. Let me repeat that, this is how you know it to be true: "normal people" will not inherit the kingdom of God, as only the children of God will. And He speaks to us if we listen. Ty 1.WRONG WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE BIBLE!!! Your beliefs do not make you an authority. 2.Could you give me a theory on what happens to all those people who do not enter the Kingdom of God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 I'm over the whole friggen religious debate- I have more friggen problems in real life then to sit around and listen to pathetic whinging bible bashers. Maybe your lives are soooooooo perfect and great, but there are people out there who have problems of their own and aren't as perfect as you are. **** Off, I'm sick of preachy pathetic bible bashers. I'm catholic it's not like I chose to be catholic, I'm only catholic coz my mother christened me and made me have my communion. This is ****, I don't see why I should have to explain myself, just coz I'm catholic doesn't mean I have to agree with every single friggen tiny detail about the religion. Someone get back to me when the bible bashers have left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grannen Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Tyrell, you are really a saint, aren't you? "Let whosoever is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." —John 8:3-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al-back from the BigWhoop Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Originally posted by Grannen "Let whosoever is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." —John 8:3-11 [/b] POF -Mom, i wasnt talking to u! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fender Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Originally posted by Guybrush122 i know........i was making fun of fender If you ever do that again, I'll paly them the song of you singing! J/K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush122 Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Originally posted by fender If you ever do that again, I'll paly them the song of you singing! J/K dear god anything but that.......NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrell Posted January 25, 2002 Share Posted January 25, 2002 Originally posted by Natty I'm over the whole friggen religious debate- I have more friggen problems in real life then to sit around and listen to pathetic whinging bible bashers. Maybe your lives are soooooooo perfect and great, but there are people out there who have problems of their own and aren't as perfect as you are. **** Off, I'm sick of preachy pathetic bible bashers. I'm catholic it's not like I chose to be catholic, I'm only catholic coz my mother christened me and made me have my communion. This is ****, I don't see why I should have to explain myself, just coz I'm catholic doesn't mean I have to agree with every single friggen tiny detail about the religion. Someone get back to me when the bible bashers have left. Thankyou for your heated reply Natty. You either choose to be Catholic or you choose not to be. You aren't made one because your "made you have your communion". Do you know the one (and only) satanic commandment, Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law written by Aleister Crowley. If you live by that law you are not Christian. I have matters to deal with in what you call "the real world". But will you share yours? Thankyou for calling me pathetic Natty, hardly what I'd call constructive in any manner. Now there must be real Christians here, people dedicated to God, who love God, who spread God's word and who talk to God? Please speak now. To Duder, Originally posted by duder 1.WRONG WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE BIBLE!!! Your beliefs do not make you an authority. 2.Could you give me a theory on what happens to all those people who do not enter the Kingdom of God? I don't understand your first statement, and if you had a relationship with God you would know how silly it sounds. These are not just my beliefs, they are the truth. What authority does a man have to impose laws on others if a higher power hadn't set them? 2. Certainly! It's very simple, if you do not enter the kingdom of God then you spend an eternity without God, this is known as "hell". Ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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