CaptainRAVE Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 Originally posted by Swoosh I don't really think I'd want to see 63 other Jedi running around a level...that would pretty much eliminate lightsaber dueling and create a world like in Q3 with mass numbers of deaths and there's no strategy except run and swing! I think 8 or 16 will provide a great game and keep the multiplayer games similar to those of Jedi Knight. But, in no means is 64 bad...you might as well support that many if the technology permits it. Yea, thats a very good point. There would be no strategy or skill, just mass killing .......fun fun Originally posted by Com Raven Well, with a good connection 32's no prob in RtCW With good server it can be as good as 30-40 ping with dsl ... mmmmmmmmmmm.........I suppose it depends on the server your using. With my old schools dual isdn line I used to get a ping of 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 Heh, our new school pcs are duron 700 with Ge Force 2 mx .... But sloooooow internet ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 Remember too there are bots. You could play with 5 people say and create 20 bots and play with 35. That wouldn't be too much lag would it? I'm no expert but it seems that 5 computers communicating would take less effort than 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 There wouldnt be much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 With bots, you need to send even almost more stuff : updated locations and everything, but you also have to take ai into account ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 Good point.....but i dont think there will be a noticable difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 Playing humans is much more fun anyways ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Unless they're bad, then playing against bots on crank would be more of a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Yup, playing against godlike ut bots is more difficult than most humans ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millions o' Monkeys Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 urgh those bots hurt...just played agaisnt them a minute ago...ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scav Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Oh, they are easy to snipe, but forget rocket duel. :yikes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberPro Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Originally posted by Millions o' Monkeys urgh those bots hurt...just played agaisnt them a minute ago...ouch The only way to defeat them: <u>Camp!</u> A little fun interactive program for Godlike bots: (maybe the UT programmer used it ) do { If (you != camp) bot == killer_machine; for (killer_machine = 1; killer_machine <= player_dies; killer_machine++) { killer_machine.rocket(locked==always); killer_machine.enforcer(firerate::5x); killer_machine.armor(500+shieldpacks); killer_machine.health(500+healthpacks); killer_machine.view(view_range==MAX); } Else killer_machine==offguard; killer_machine.health(offguard::0); killer_machine.dies(); killer_machine.close(); } while (player_keystroke == 'firebutton'); Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarScrap Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Originally posted by Moses Remember too there are bots. You could play with 5 people say and create 20 bots and play with 35. That wouldn't be too much lag would it? I'm no expert but it seems that 5 computers communicating would take less effort than 30. Sorry if I seem comp illiterate, but it seems like that would be even slower. Sure, you've got less lag, but you've got 5 processors running 30 AI programs. So less lag, but slower game. For those of you that seem to think that only lag affect gameplay I give you this. On Diablo II I sometimes play single player online so that I can have realm characters, but still solo and have no lag. The one difference that that makes is this: if your comp has to take extra time to load, the rest of the game keeps going. Sometimes I'd zone (EQ terminology) and go down to a framerate of probably...ohhhhh... .2fps. Yes, that is 0.2fps. I'd sometimes see 3 frames, the last one being my dead body. So, yes, how much your processor is trying to do DOES affect the aparant lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Originally posted by KISS Army I just want everyone to know that there are "over" 20 levels and "over" 10 weapons. Keep in mind, too, that 64 players is the theoretical limit of players in Quake 3, assuming everyone has uber hardware to run the server and the bandwidth to support it. I think 32 players is a more reasonable estimate and I think that in most games 16 or 24 is more realistic/practical. Thought I'd give everyone a "heads up." Have a great weekend, guys and gals! --Kenn Kenn Hoekstra Raven Software AWESOME :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 The problem with bots in UT is that if you pretend to be dead they know and it gets really really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 That's really bad in MoH : AA Those arses drop down just to get back up and hammer you .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaGE_Xagatyn Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I did think that 64 was pretty big. Still, 24 beats JK's 4 player games! (on the zone) Actually JK supports 32 players, and Zone just manages the game so people find each other, there are more than one way to play more than 4 players on Zone aswell. I've played in games with 8 - 16 players. Fun fun fun! Lag lag lag! =) JK2's netcode is probobly alot better, and it will be intressting to see how many ppl you can cram into one game, though I don't think anyone will go above 32 anyways cuz you'll lag like kwazy! (But it'd be very cool to take screenshots!) But JK is fun with just 2 players cuz of the Lightsaber, lightsaber duels rock! And if they get the feelin right JK2 will own as JK did by all means! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 There are never enough people to have 32 players in JK....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heeb Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 the max i've ever played is.. 10. super lag, and not fun at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 The max I've played with is 15 and I have a T3........anymroe and it just loses its fun aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Bah, 4 players was a Zone limitation, not JK. Now for dialup, having more than 4 was a joke, but I played many 8 player games and enjoyed them very much. I remember cringing though at hearing about "8 players" from IGN. Heck, nothing like 16 player games of UT/Q3 to spoil you. ; ) Kurgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberPro Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Originally posted by Kurgan Bah, 4 players was a Zone limitation, not JK. Now for dialup, having more than 4 was a joke, but I played many 8 player games and enjoyed them very much. I remember cringing though at hearing about "8 players" from IGN. Heck, nothing like 16 player games of UT/Q3 to spoil you. ; ) Kurgan Actually you can make than 4 players game You have change your registry: I made a 10,000 players game before..but only about 6 joined still it was funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Funny enough no computer would handle that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Originally posted by SaGE_Xagatyn Actually JK supports 32 players, and Zone just manages the game so people find each other, there are more than one way to play more than 4 players on Zone aswell. I've played in games with 8 - 16 players. Fun fun fun! Lag lag lag! =) JK2's netcode is probobly alot better, and it will be intressting to see how many ppl you can cram into one game, though I don't think anyone will go above 32 anyways cuz you'll lag like kwazy! (But it'd be very cool to take screenshots!) But JK is fun with just 2 players cuz of the Lightsaber, lightsaber duels rock! And if they get the feelin right JK2 will own as JK did by all means! Considering that JK II's netcode is from a almost online-mp-only game, I figure it may be better, yes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Yea.......just a little better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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