M@nd@lori@n Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 I notice in the large trailer to JK2 which was at fileplanet but now I can't find it, Kyle ran pass what appears to be a tall lamp post structure. I know they said that the lightsaber leave burnt marks on walls and that the environment is more interactive but can you cut through the "lamp post" and have it fall apart,just like Vader did in Bespin against Luke in E.B.S.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Truthful Liar Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Ya, I am pretty sure you do. The 'others' will know into more depth though. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro The Hutt Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Well they said that there'll be alot of objects you can interact with, so I guess that large steel poles will be part of those things. (hehe, would be cool to cut down a tall pole and then force pushing the thing into a squad of stormtroopers. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Truthful Liar Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Sounds like fun Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Have the pole fall on the Stroppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrEEpaGe Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 you guys are completely wrong...you wont be able to cut through lamp posts and have them fall off....i am quite sure of this....if they do have it, it will be cool, but i really really doubt that....they controllability of the environment wont be that good...you guys are getting your hopes up too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro The Hutt Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 Or you're being a pessimist Have some faith in LEC & Raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db6 Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 In Jedi Knight, Kyle could throw certain crates at opponents: this was a way to interact with the environment in JKI. I imagine that JK2 will offer similar interaction, maybe cutting certain lamp-posts in some levels would have a similar feel to throwing some crates in JK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 I believe in one interview Raven stated that if you saw it in the movies, then you will probably be able to do it in the game (or something to that effect). Since Vader did this in the movies, sounds like it is a possibility. But, if it doesn't happen, I won't be too sad either. Swoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 A mapper can specifically make a object "destructable", but its not likely that they will. This would require the object to be an entity vs just a regular brush. One or two of them, no biggie. Hundreds in a map, big deal. You won't be able to saber everything you see and expect them to behave accordingly. Just like in other Q3A engine games, you can fire rockets into a wall all day and there will be no damage. Quit trying to make up things to dissappoint yourselves with. I can see the "Raven make worlds destructable" petition that will be in the works. geeze. Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Howell Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 any1 here a level editor? any1 here ever played Half-Life? if the answer 2 1 of these questions is yes, then ull know: breakable objects are easy as hell to do breakable objects that can be interacted with after breaking are probably not breakable objects will probably not have any effect on opponents u will almost definitely see cool effects when chopping down lamp poles jh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAT Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 This is off topic, but would they really use steel in the Star Wars Universe? Wouldn't it be durasteel or something? I was just curious... GAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Quel Droma Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 Who really cares if its steel? that would be awesome if you could cut a pole that fell down and smashed through a barracks wall only to show a sith and storm toopers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrobot Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 ... you can fire rockets into a wall all day and there will be no damage. In Red Faction, you can make tunnels by slamming rockets into walls. It can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_FinnSon Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 While I think Raven will make most loose, small objects(except guns) destructable, they will probably add only few bigger "objects" like lamp posts into that list to strengthen the image of interactive environment. I don't leave out the possibility that they might also let you destroy certain parts of bigger structure if there is some purpose to do so; I remember one instance in EF, for example, where you had to blast one pilar bringing part of the catwalk down, so that you could take shortcut to upper level. You still leave only scorch marks and blaster burns to walls and floors though(and even they will fade away). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 I wish I had a lightsaber to cut down trees with instead of a hacksaw. That would make my life of yardwork a lot easier. I think that lampposts will be destructible but not walls, buildings, etc. I mean, I'm sure you will be able to shoot out the light inside the lamp, but I don't really see what use slicing through a lamppost has, except that it looks pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 it was cool in the MotS MP you could cut the poles at bespin... the same place darth did... i wonder how much stuff will be able to be cut in MP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qel Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 I hope so we can cut stuff up...like a hot knife through butter.... Qel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobuleSO Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Yeah, what Cyclone said. It would be very easy for Raven to make metal pole "entities" that can be cut in half (interacted with). However, entities like this tend to hurt framerate, so you wouldn't see a whole ton of them. Has anyone played Obi-Wan for X-Box? Despite some of the really negative reviews, this game does get a lot of things right. For example, there are some objects in the game that look like metal poles that have energy inside them; you force-push them into enemies, and when it hits, it will blow up, killing pretty much anything.. then you have this blown-up metal pole, which you can force-push around some more to kill even more baddies. There's a lot of other neat stuff; you can, for example, slam battle droids into a wall or crate and they will smash into peices; you can slice them in half; cut their heads off, etc, depending on where your saber hits 'em. It's great fun!! Probably one of the best moments was when I was in a hallway with about 15 droids in front of me; I did saber-throw and took half of them out flying AWAY and the rest on the way BACK. it was SWEET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Quel Droma Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 why waste your money on a console? PC's better anyway wouldnt it be funny if a sith took a swing at you and you ducked and it took out a poll wich then fell over on the sith killing him or how about you force grip someone and throw them through glass? :P eh eh? just getting my hopes up i spose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarScrap Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Originally posted by AB_Legion Ya, I am pretty sure you do. The 'others' will know into more depth though. Cheers Dangit, I used to be one of those 'others'. And then I started getting projects in school. or how about you force grip someone and throw them through glass? :P eh eh? This is off topic, but I just thought of something. Pick up a stormie with grip, then use push to send the stormie out over a drop, then let go of grip. :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Why wouldn't you just grip him and hurl him over the edge with grip? You can do that with level 3 grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Jedi Howell: hehe, I have made plenty of Half-Life maps http://www.planethalflife.com/jailbreak I'm that Cyclone and I made practically every map for that mod, although its been a while So I know what you are talking about. breaking boxes to get healths and all that. But what Valve made HL map allowed you to destroy every wall, stair or other equipment in sight? None of them. The id engines are not designed that way, JKII uses an id engine. I stand by my post. Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtali Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Originally posted by Ulic Quel Droma why waste your money on a console? PC's better Because a pC engine is just a PC whereas a gaming console engine is designed soley for games. PLus they have better games then you dont have to always upgrade every year or 2 when a console will last 5 to 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Globule, your right. Obi-Wan has great gameplay. You really feel like a jedi in that game! Jedi Knight 1 was considered one of the best shooters of all time, and deserves it. Obi-Wan clearly has superior gameplay and graphics yet it recieves no respect. To this day I don't understand why Obi recieved such poor reviews. I'm sure Jedi Outcast will, however, dethrone most other Star Wars games when released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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