UniKorn Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 I don't see how a demo can delay the game? 1. For every level they include they have to make sure that all the textures are in there, without putting in all the textures 2. The same goes for the models and their skins. 3. They have to create the installer and test it on every system configuration. It is not because the installer of the full game works on every system that the one for the demo does. 4. Once the demo is wrapped up, it goes to la for approval, if it isn't approved, they can start over. 5. Do you honestly think that there are people at Raven just sitting there with nothing to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Originally posted by UniKorn I don't see how a demo can delay the game? 1. For every level they include they have to make sure that all the textures are in there, without putting in all the textures 2. The same goes for the models and their skins. 3. They have to create the installer and test it on every system configuration. It is not because the installer of the full game works on every system that the one for the demo does. 4. Once the demo is wrapped up, it goes to la for approval, if it isn't approved, they can start over. 5. Do you honestly think that there are people at Raven just sitting there with nothing to do? Well guys I'm not a developer so I can vouch for how many additional hours or the length it takes to do a demo but I'm just going by what the developers at Raven have said and I think they would know better than anyone since they are the ones making the game. They did say that they did not think there would be a demo before the release of the game because it would take more time to put a demo out and they did not want to delay the game because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanke4252 Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 uh, why wouldnt they just use the SAME installer in the demo they used in the game. I know the previously released LEC demos have usually seemed to have the same installers. I mean I honestly dont think that this is a huge part of the development process. And for the textures, thats not a new thing either. Either play through a level a bunch of times or recheck it a few times, either way shouldnt take more than a day to do a thorough job. Plus, the majority of the time they use levels from the actual game. Same for skins only not nearly as time consuming. An experienced skinner can throw together a skin very quickly, and they will use skins from the full game since it is a "DEMO" of the full game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDante Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 I bet you that they are going to do the same thing that EA did with the MOHAA Single player Demo or at least what they wanted to do, it's just maybe it will go to PC Gamer instead of CGW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Tahu Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Hee,that's a good one. However,I think that even the demo MIGHT be half of JK already,for that matter.And,how long did you guys took to download the JK demo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Originally posted by Chanke4252 uh, why wouldnt they just use the SAME installer in the demo they used in the game. I know the previously released LEC demos have usually seemed to have the same installers. I mean I honestly dont think that this is a huge part of the development process. And for the textures, thats not a new thing either. Either play through a level a bunch of times or recheck it a few times, either way shouldnt take more than a day to do a thorough job. Plus, the majority of the time they use levels from the actual game. Same for skins only not nearly as time consuming. An experienced skinner can throw together a skin very quickly, and they will use skins from the full game since it is a "DEMO" of the full game. I really don't know why they could not do that and they may be planning on releasing a demo anyway but from what they have said it is apparently more involved than one would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones9 Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 There won't be a demo this friday. No, I dn't have a reason for saying this other than today's thursday and we would have heard about such a high profile demo. Besides, the game hasn't even gone gold yet!!! I want a demo as much as ya'll, but I don't plan to see one until third quarter march. Then again, i THINK i have been wrong before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUS_Tomcat Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 :elephant: :elephant: :elephant: :elephant: Let's just ask tomorrow and see what they say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum2 Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Originally posted by UniKorn I don't see how a demo can delay the game? 1. For every level they include they have to make sure that all the textures are in there, without putting in all the textures 2. The same goes for the models and their skins. 3. They have to create the installer and test it on every system configuration. It is not because the installer of the full game works on every system that the one for the demo does. 4. Once the demo is wrapped up, it goes to la for approval, if it isn't approved, they can start over. 5. Do you honestly think that there are people at Raven just sitting there with nothing to do? 1, 2 & 3: There are tools (or they can make them, he) that will automate the process 4: True, but I believe that if LEC is confident that Raven will make a good game, they can trust them to make a nice demo, too 5: No, but as someone said before, the big time trouble should be well behind... if Raven works like an organized team (I assume a yes there) at this time should be only minor glitches (or already finished!!! Let's hope ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanke4252 Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 well they would only be true if they used levels not included in the full game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuRaSaMuNe Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 Whats with all these elephants I'm a monkey man myself :monkey4: :monkey4: And I'd doubt they will have a demo on Friday, don't they normally announce the game has gone gold before a demo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrUeFoRcE Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 actually i think that a demo may be released very soon, maybe not this friday but with msn gaming zone being updated for jk2 there preparing for something, and if they werent releasing the demo soon they probably wouldnt have released the jk2 zone section.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Obi Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 <font color=cbcbff> A MSN Gaming zone page can mean only one thing.....invasion..... Wait..that's not right... eh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krak3n Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 I'm quite confident the game is done, if not at 98% or 99%. I'm sure beta testing is going on now and releasing a demo now would not delay this game. 2 months ago, yea it would have delayed the game. You have to remember once u have finished the game at least a month of prep has to be done befor the offical lanch. opackging, marketing, produceing the thousands upon thousands of CD's etc etc, not to mention shipping it to EVERY game store in the USA, UK and europe and of course the rest of the world. The games done, that i am sure of, and the updating of The Zone shows that they rae getting ready for something, wether it be a demo i don't know, or of course the Zone could have just made a giant muck up. Personelly i can feel a demo on the horizen, this game is one of the most highly ancisipated games of 2002, they cannot afford to not release a demo. Just my 2 pence. Krak3n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antilles Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 Well, when I type the under: http://www.lucasarts.com/products/outcast/html/demo.html There is a white page only...... Usually when you links to page that Lucasarts doesn't have(yet), there will be a "404error" or so kind of page that tell you, there is no such page and will put you back to Lucasarts.com. So when I open the "demo" page and it shows white, doesn't it means that.....There will be demo? Although we can't know if the Demo will be out before the full game release, at last we can put some hope...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Knight_UK Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 I think LEC will release a Demo before the game as they are yet to try and bring in people that are not 'huge' fans of the STARWARS franchise. LucasArts Bieng the big money grabbing monster they are, will try and get as many people to buy the game as possible. So I don't see how they cannot afford to NOT release a demo soon. Also the MSZone JO area obviously means 'something' is going on. But WHAT????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio Warrior Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 well if there was a demo before the official release date it would push the game back like a week or two and the zone page for JK2 is only up cause they are getting ready for the game and they usually put pages up within a month or two in advance and probable like a week or two before its released youll start seeing game rooms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steg Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 Demo...DEMO!!! MUST HAVE DEMO *regains slef control* hey wait......this demo will by big...very big over 100mg easily:confused:... for us poor sods with 56kbps modems it will b right bugger 2 download...... DAMN!!! Steg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanke4252 Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 this is kind of funny. Its like people talking about an impending attack by some unbeatable foe. "Its coming, I can feel it, and none of us will be able to stop it!!! Raven knows it, LEC knows it, even The Zone knows it. There is no hope, the demo is coming!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neonix Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 Well.... It can mean two things; 1. There getting prepared for something, with this much activity about the game (for example, The Zone, With an entire weapons and Force power chart, that or this; http://www.lucasarts.com/products/outcast/html/demo.html thing) 2. There are some very sick people at the LEC/Raven headquarters that want to make us more nervous. Personally i do think that they will release a demo, and with all these topics going on about it, i anticipate it will be released today (wich is Friday the 1st of March) because everything happens for a reason, there's no such thing as luck or coincidents (that spelled right? im dutch you know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neonix Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 Something else BTW. look at this System Requirements >>>>>The Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast CD-ROM installed on your hard drive<<<<<< Nothing on the zone speaks of a demo, my hopes just went down to zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 Yea.......Tutorial>Step 1, insert CD into Drive..DAM IT!!! Theres 28 days till we get any CD, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Katarn Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 i HATE u guys now that i have the demo in mind im going crazy ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I WANT MY DEMO.......NOW!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAtilXl Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 Originally posted by buzzfunk666 Raven have stated that they first goal is to finish up the full game. They also said that a demo before shipping Jk2 is all up to LA. So with this info in mind, theres no reason to belive that there will be a demo this week. heY gEeBuS its me staty =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI OUTCAST Posted March 2, 2002 Share Posted March 2, 2002 :lsduel: i hope that they do but if they do we all be getting the demo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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