freezing.

[Surfware]

I'll be brief... I kept on freezing and FINALLY I fixed the problem:

 

----> MOTHER BOARD BIOS UPDATE was my problem.

 

I tried EVERYTHING AND MORE suggested in the forums, but NOTHING worked. I froze once and again after a quickload.

 

---> SOLUTION: I updated my MotherBoard Bios (QDI KINETIZ 7B) and now it works perfectly, still no freezing after playing for a long time.

 

So, if you have a VIA KINETIZ 7B or similar, update your BIOS and Jedi 2 (and probably more games that froze) will work finely.

 

Happy gaming

 

PS. Mi specs:

 

Athlon 1.3

 

WIN 2000 ---> Fully updated.

QDI Kinetiz 7B Motherboard

Sb Live! ---> this wasn't the problem

256 MB ---> this wasn't the problem either

GeForce 2 MX ----> LATEST DRIVERS 28.32 (I think) LATEST DIRECT X (8.1 I think) ---> this isn't the problem.

 

I haven't even installed the Via-4-in-1 yet, they made my system run worse. I'll try now that my BIOs is updated.

[ecoplexx]

hi all

As most of you, i always had the same freezing pb since i installed the game.

Checked everything, drivers, uninstalled other games....etc....nothing to do more, always that freezing pb !!!!

(i must say i never that kind of pb before)

But today, when i came here, i saw the info on the main page, and i launched the online scan from Panda. Damnit, 2 infected files !

So i decided to look more properly in my windows system folder : found 2 files with the .vir extension, seems to be a worm or something..... I noticed something strange, dates on these files correspond with the date i installed the game

I erased the files, rescanned and nothing was found. Reboot and launched the game, played for 3 hours without any problem (tried SP and MP), loading times seem faster, game runs fine now.

Would like to know if someone else found these files.

Hope it helps some of ya

cheers

[mikroba]

Well, it seems that Windows update is a key element to make this game work.

I just ran Windows update, and there was an update for GDI. Since then I played once with the game and it didn't crashed.

What the hell?

But I've played it in safe mode...next time I'm playeing, I'm gonna make some fine tuning.

 

Well, it looks like updated drivers alone never solve the problem - I've tried all my drivers fresh installs, system clean installs, formatting, etc. but this result makes me think that the core of the problem is in the Windows itself.

Keep updating!

I hope everybody can solve these crashes!

But, anyays, I'm still looking forward to get a patch for this game!

 

 

mikroba the midichlorian warrior:)

[Ignodium]

it depends on what kind of freezing

 

there are tons of problames people are having, but unfortunately, they are not all having the same problems. i geuss we could make a list, however i dont remember them all, but

 

 

ACPI - acpi sucks, as many devices on as few irq''s as possible wehre most common day graphics cards and alot of sound cards need their own irq.

 

 

drivers/bios' - common sense

 

 

loading all models - turn off the option that loads all models at teh end of the round

 

what else?

 

my game only errors in multiplayer, but its not a console error, a windows program error pops up.

[stevho]

ive tried changing from acpi to standard pc but in all 3 categories(Standard system devices, ALi, and Microsoft) there is no standard pc option. would it be labeled anything else? Im runnin win98SE.

[Ignodium]

it must be a diff name in 98se, because im on an ali chipset too and my mobo has acpi (asus a7a266) and i saw it. my 3 categories were compaq (odd, i built this computer myself) sgi and standard something, and it was at the btotom of standard something.

[registrthis]

Hello everyone.

I've been following this thread for a couple of weeks now

ever since installing jk2 on my pc and experiencing the

sound loop/freeze. I have yet to come up with an acceptable

solution, though I did make enough progress to actually

finish the sp game. Now, I have been trying multiplayer

and much to my dismay, the propblem persists there as well.

What actually irritated me more than the problem in jk2, was

the fact that after I installed it, my other games (rtcw, mohaa etc.)

began to develop similar issues where they did not before.

I also began to experience stability problems with my OS that were not an issue before installing jk2. One day while working

on the problem, I decided to use drwatson to see if it detected

anything, this is what I found:

module<unknown> has altered windows system files.

 

After finding this, I decided to spend this weekend (and it took every bit of it) trying to resolve the issue.

I logged everything that I did, to help isolate the problem:

 

The first thing that I did was a format C:\ and a clean install

of the operating system.

Next came the drivers, sorting out irq's etc. so that I was sure that everything was as it should be.

After installing the bare minimum of software I needed to have on

the machine I began the troubleshooting:

I first installed directx 8 from the Mohaa cd and then ran dxdiag

to insure that everything was working properly.

Then I installed Mohaa, patched it with the latest updates and

played the sp missions for a couple of hours to verify that it worked: I experienced no problems at this point.

Next I installed RTCW, patched it and tested it out also:

No problems.

I then backed up my registry, defragged the hard drive, copied

the jk2 files from the cd to my hard drive, started norton smart sweep to record any changes made to the pc and installed jk2.

After installation I read through the log file from smart-sweep

to see what had been changed:

Two windows system files, wavemix.ini and powerpnt.ini had been

altered.

I started up jk2 and played for a few minutes: crash/sound loop freeze.

I rebooted the pc, started Mohaa and played for a few minutes:

crash/sound loop freeze

I rebooted once again and tried RTCW: crash/sound loop freeze.

 

Since then my pc has locked up twice just browsing the internet, etc.

 

I am playing with nothing but explorer and systray running in the

backround. My irq's are all straight and acpi has been disabled

by installing the plug-and-play-bios fail safe drivers.

 

My system specs:

Amd Athalon xp1600@1467 mhz (not overclocked)

Iwill xp333 motherboard with latest agp driver (1.84) installed

256mb pc2100 ddr ram

visiontek gf3 ti 200 with 23.11 drivers installed (also tried 28.32, no change)

creative sb-live x-gamer with latest drivers dated 5-5-2000 from

the creative website.

maxtor 20 gb hard drive@7200 rpm

Kenwood true-x 72x cdrom

windows 98 se

cpu temp runs at 120 degrees F. during play, well below maximum

safe range.

 

I had my suspicions and they were confirmed by troubleshooting it this way. Everything worked properly before I installed jk2.

I'm wondering now what will happen if I extract the two altered system files mentioned above from the windows cd and restore them. I'm not faulting the developers, nor am I trying to rush them to get a patch out (if a patch is even possible for this issue)

But I, like many who have posted here, would like to see them at least acknowledge that the game has a problem and try to fix it.

[Darth Jericho]

Info -

 

http://cweb.msi.com.tw/eforum/?target=article&tid=4175

 

Link to fix -

 

http://downloads.viaarena.com/drivers/others/Test_driver1.zip

 

Worked for me but might not for you guys, worth a try though you can always uninstall it.

[mikroba]

Hello there!

 

I mentioned earlier that I have a kind of solution for the freezing.

Well it's true for single player, but I realized that the sound loop/crash still happens everytime in Multiplayer.

So, this game has some really serious bugs. I don't remember anything causing such anomalies on my system earlier.

 

I borrowed again from my friend the Return to Castle Wolfenstein (it's not my type of game) and it crashes too. The same way Jedi does. I don't know maybe it's a Windows XP issue, or DirectX issue, because I can remember, when I first borrowed that game from my friend I used Windows2000, and there were no problems (well, it was long before Jedi Outcast).

 

So, to put it shortly: Windows upgrade works - for me - in XP for singleplayer issues, but multiplayer still crashes.

 

mikroba the midichlorian warrior

[KERNEL]

Well it seems to me that the issue is direct x. Some how it is leading back to it. I tried installing the new via 4in1 drivers, i flashed my bios. and a whole bunch more stuff. So what im going to do is reformat, install the bare drivers, and have it run on direct X 8.0 the one that comes on the cd and see what happens.

[lavhoes]

JK2 used to work for me. i finished the SP and was having fun in MP. one day, though, it just began freezing with a sound loop for me. sometimes an hour in, sometimes at the main menu. this also ocurred in other Quake 3 games such as RtCW. well, after reinstalling EVERYTHING, even doing a clean reformat, i finally found my problem:

 

overheating.

 

for some reason or another, Jk2 required my video card to run faster than it has been, thus causing it to heat up to horrible temperatures (136 F is my record). so, i left the case open one time, and guess what?

 

no freezing.

 

all my games worked again. i kept checking on my vid. card, and it was staying cool, whereas earlier it was scalding hot to the touch. so yesterday i bought a couple of fans and installed 'em near the video card, and like magic, all my freezing problems went away.

 

so, for the hell of it, leave your case open next time you want to play JK2 and see if it'll run. it may just be a heating problem.

[Chiles4]

Stevho, if you're running Win98SE, the only way to turn off/on ACPI is to find the option in the BIOS, "ACPI Aware BIOS" or something like that. If you're running with it enabled, after you disable it, save, and reboot, you will be prompted to reinstall ALL your drivers.

 

Darth Jericho, great reading on the infinite loop prob. Sounds like there's a "real" problem with XP. What's weird is that I get a "freeze - sound loop" once in a while but it works itself out in about 5 seconds. But, I'm using Win98SE and a Kyro 2. So I don't know if it's the fault of JO, my latest Kyro drivers, or the 4.38 VIA drivers.

 

I'm still holding out that at least SOME of these nasty problems are not JO's fault. But the fact that other "Q3" games fail after installing JO is not very reassuring!

[lavhoes]

well, like i said, it wasn't just JK2 for me, it was everything. hell, up until i left to go get the fans, my computer would freeze about ever 10 minutes with whatever i was playing in Winamp doing the sound loop.

 

it's a long shot, but just something else to try

[CAT-scan]

Gah....the game is absolutely unplayable for me now... The game didn't freeze even once untill I got to the level I'm at now.

 

Im in the ns_street level, and it's hangs on me all the time I want a paaaahaaatch....bwahaaa:(

 

lavhoes:

If it is overheating, why does it happen only in JK2? After all, the game runs like a charm, with no slowdowns whatsoever. It doesn't really seem like my computer has a hard time handling the game at all.

 

After the crashes I always check out the temperatures of the CPU and case, and both of them is at a respectable level after each crash.

 

And btw, anyone who are planning on trying out lavhoes tips (removing the case), be careful, in some cases (hehe) removing the casing will only worsen things, making components even more hot.

 

This is starting to look like a serious problem that Raven/Lucasarts really should look into....for many people the game is totally unplayable in it's current state.

[Genocide52]

I e-mailed LucasArts Tech support the other day to let them know that I got Jedi Knight II working. I asked them about a patch and they said that they are looking into several issues. Hopefully this means we will see a patch soon. Good luck to the rest of you, it's worth the effort.

 

[CAT-scan]

I have a possible solution!

 

Check out my "Having Lockups in Singleplayer? - Try this..." Thread

[Ruga]

My machine just locked up again. Particularly enraging as I had 20 or so windows open in the middle of working on things. Bye bye.

 

I was not running JK at all; and in fact haven't attempted it at all today, since my last reboot. But, alas, i made the mistake of popping open a video clip in media player... and the system locked solid. This never ever ever used to happen... not until the evil lucas and his raven minions took over my machine...

[MadAtGod]

Don't know why....but I still see no word of a patch and MOHAA is all f**ked up still so....

 

BUMP!!!!!!!

[Mormegil]

Funny thing, I flashed my bios recently to fix an unrelated problem, and then JO started freezing again with the sound loop!

 

Well, I was lucky this time. I changed my AGP from 4x to 2x and it fixed it right away. Not sure if that has been suggested, as I fixed my original problem shortly after this thread started and I'm not reading through 10 pages! Good luck!

[gakjones]

Scary how similar these posts are to my own dilema! I had lockups on my machine as well, I noticed the sound occasionally when I started JKII would not play the intro. but I can't play the game either! I think I played for ten minutes last night before It hung.

 

JUST after I wiped my machine, reinstalled win2k, all the latest drivers (except audioHQ, I HATE that program!) But I get same crap. I'm gonna try the "kill GL" thing and "match vidmode w/ desktop vidmode" thing. Thanks for giving me some ideas!

 

Machine:

 

PIII 600

512 meg first wipe / 256 Second wipe (thought it'd help)

SBLive! w / newest drivers

PNY Gforce3 TI 200 / w/ Detonator 28.32 drivers

Even tried installing all of the critical updates in 2k to see if it was Winblows.

Directx 8.1

Linksys (NE-100tx?) Network card

 

There is my info, if anyone reads this thread anymore maybe this may help.

 

Again thanks!

[colmag]

Have a look at this thread, this is the solution that worked for me, and i had a freezing problem exactly like most of yours:

 

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48842

[Zoda]

hmmmm

[Arathrael]

Just posted a possible cause/fix for some freezing with sound loop problems over in the game feedback forum here.

 

Basically, I think the in-game setup menu can screw stuff up. The reason why I think that's in the linked post. Be warned, it's quite long!

[mikroba]

Good morning!

Few days ago I told on this forum, that my freezing problems are solved.

Unfortunately I must make some corrections about that claim.

Well, if I' modifying my settings the game crashes the same way as it did earlier - another notable thing, If I'm using a 32 bit desktop resolution, and running the game in 16 bit resolution the game rolls on, without graphics glitches, but if I change the desktop resolution to 16bit, then the game displays strange, bright, oddly coloured - unenjoyable - textures, and the text is unreadable.

In multiplayer the game still crashes, I couldn't solve thet issue - not that I'm statisfied with the singleplayer mode this way...

 

So, I think this game's problems are quite unsolvable yet...patch would be more than helpful (hopefully)

 

mikroba, the very tired midichlorian warrior

 

PS: since I've tried all settings variations I've to tell you this game looks just as good in safe mode as in, let's say 1024x768 everything maxed out, if you (can) play you are instantly sucked in by it's atmosphere...sigh...this makes these freezing issues more painful...

[Sutek]

I've noticed one common thread in all this Win XP: having spoken to some other friends who have had similar problems with a variety of games their common consensus is remove XP.

 

That being said, it might not fix all the other problems. I'll start with a general fix that works for things like Tribes 2 and most other net games.

 

Spyware. The stuff is leaky as hell and causes crashes in most things that are being run at the same times (which is always). There's a program that scans for and removes it called Ad-Aware, from http://www.lavasoftusa.com (it's freeware). Get it and run it, even if you don't think you have any (You might be surprised).

 

Secondly, I've had some lockup problems myself in MP only: The game locks up on level change (complete stall), I turned the 32-bit TEXTURES back down to 16-bit. All of a sudden it stopped locking up (except on gamesdomain servers for some reason). Try that as well.

 

Finally, I would not hold out the assumption that the patch will fix the problem. It might, but don't bet on it. Normally these things are individual config problems that result from one odd little program or setting tucked away in a corner, and no amount of patching will change that. The fact that so many people have had problems doesn't mean the game is at fault - there are more factors than just the game here.

 

Enough ranting, hope this helps you guys out. (knowing my luck it won't)