BJP3E Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 in EI Qui-Gon does not fade away as obi and yoda do in the future Why? My simple minded guess is maybe the Qui guy is not as tuned into the force as they were that when they die they truely become one with the force??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 No one really knows for sure, it may have to do with a couple of things. Lucas has said that it had to do with Obi-Wan's remark in ANH 'If you strike me down...' It may be related to how Luke can see Obi-Wan after he dies. Lucas said that that is a trick that Yoda knows, that he taught to Obi-Wan...but no one really knows yet (unless it was brought up in the Ep II book...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJP3E Posted May 3, 2002 Author Share Posted May 3, 2002 spoiler if you read this. . . . . . . in the EII book Qui gon speaks to annie and yet yoda said thats not possible ?????? if I recall right Guys, please use the (spoiler) tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylilin Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 I think the whole dissapearing thing may have to with the individual who is about to die, and their acceptance of death. Obi-Wan expected to die, he knew he was going to sacrifice himself so the restof the gang could escape. Yoda also accepted the fact that he was going to die. As well as Darth Vader, who told Luke "Its too late for me now" or something to that effect. With the case of Qui-Gon, he died in a fight, not expecting to die. Thats the only thing I have noticed in each case of Jedi death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 Kylilin, I've heard that argument a lot, and used it at first, but then someone pointed out that Qui-Gon has plenty of time to prepare for death, since Obi-Wan kills Maul and then Qui-Gon tells him he has to train Anakin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 maybe its more difficult to concentrate after being stabbed... even for a jedi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 Seems like it would be pretty hard to concentrate while being stabbed, after being electrocuted (Vader dissapeared too), and when you die of old age (Yoda didn't pass on easily, he was struggling pretty hard...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 When did we see Vader disappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 He disappeared during the funeral pyre, and was seen beside Yoda and Obi-Wan at the end of ROTJ. Even though it wasn't as sudden or obvious as Yoda and Obi-Wan, it still happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 And it says so on Starwars.com...I reckon if you're going to get info from anywhere, you should get it there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 Ah, I see. I guess I never noticed him disappear during the pyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalGuard Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 I've always assumed that Qui didn't absorb himself into the force because he used his last reserves of strength to stay alive and ensure that Anakin would be trained by Obi-Wan. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 I think that this whole having to concentrate to be absorbed into the Force thing is a bit off the mark. I think it is more of the way the Jedi was prepared to give his life for the Force that he is able to absorb into it. Qui-Gon was a bit of a rebel Jedi, didn't do everything by the book, so probably didn't have the high understanding of the force that Obi-Wan and Yoda had by the time they die. Even in their death, they are accepting that it is the way of the Force, that death isn't the end of life, but just of the physical life. Sounds more like a religious thing there, that the body dies, but the spirit lives on, and only those that seem to believe that are absorbed into the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIO Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 so what your saying is that qui gon was scrwed aND CAN'T BE ONE WITH THE FORCE CUZ HE DIED fast gee that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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