DeFrio Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 I'm thinking palaptine will hit him with the lightning real bad. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotic~Angel Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 I'm guessing Obi-Wan, why? Dunno just guessing. Maybe he gets run over by a car one day lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enDless_Deliriu Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 I'm pretty sure that Kenobi kicks him into a volcano or something, and the only way he survives the ordeal is to turn fully to the darkside and use his anger to keep the force flowing through him and alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieJedi86 Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Anakin is going trying to do something bad, like kill the jedi and Obi-Wan fights him in a room like the one in Empire Strikes back. Theyre fighting and Anakin falls into a molten pit. He survives and has to wear the suit because his lungs are burned and he cant breathe properly. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Warrior Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Yup obi and anakin have a rumble and he falls into a volcano is what i read somewhere. Let's see if it was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inSpiRe- Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 yeah he falls into lava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupO'Coffee Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 from what i've heard (almost nothing already mentioned) anakin challenges ob-wan to a duel and they fight. obi kicks anakin into a volcano/lave pit (whatever) and he dies. then, sidious comes by and resurrects anakin and makes him his apprentice, since anakin is overwhelmed by the anger and joins the dark side. of course, because anakins body is destroyed, he has to wear a suit that keeps him alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderx2048 Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 that all specalation, we dont know, that was all written b4 the prequel were annouce. Anything is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectSky Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 I got a theory: En episode 3, there will be this crazy sith lord called "Darth Pladyous" who is a half man half.. yeah pladypus. and this sith bites anakin into two "CHOMP!!" just like that... and Anakin with only his upper body left jumps up into the belly of Darth pladypus and destroys him with a "Force Destruction ball" BAM !! and Paltpatine has to have a dark apprentice to he "fixes" anakin with the robot suit... Na... seriously I ain´t got a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 One of premiere climactic moments of Episode III will be the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan. While the specifics are unknown, the result is that Obi-Wan triumphs over Anakin, imparting injuries so severe that Anakin requires his infamous body armor to stay alive. The point of the duel is merely speculation. It could be that Anakin, out of his arrogance, challenges Obi-Wan to a duel, to prove his power. It could be that Obi-Wan, in his rage for Anakin's involvement in the Jedi Purge, attempts to destroy his former Padawan and end his reign of destruction. Or, their conflict may merely be one of the final chess moves, played by Darth Sidious from the shadows, in his quest for the crown - check and mate. I look forward to seeing how the chapter of the fallen hero unfolds. And as we all know, in the end, Qui-Gonn will have been proven right - Anakin was the chosen one, who would destroy the Emperor, bring balance to the Force, and redeem his imortal soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 We think, and hope it will be Obi Wan, as this would be the most dramatic choice, but it could really be anything, and for any reason. The movie seems like it will be hard to make to me, because it has some lose ends to tie up that will be hard to manage. For example, unless the movie starts with Anakin fully in the dark side, Padme can't know she's pregnant as it starts, because he isn't supposed to know he has children--she can't know she's pregnant until he's really obviously in the Dark Side (so she runs from him). At the same time, the movie should explain how Leia and Luke wind up on Alderaan and Tatooine, presumably as it ends, so it has to span many months--an odd thing in an SW movie. Also, does Anakin kill the Jedi, or does Darth Vader? This is another thing we can't be certain of. Presumably James Earl Jones is only in the movie for a short while, at the end, but perhaps its a very cinematic few minutes, where we see DV slaughtering Jedi to avenge his being horribly disfigured. I guess we'll have to wait and see...it should be interesting. My bet is that Obi Wan hides Padme, and Anakin is enraged and attacks Obi, demanding the location of his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosexual Ewok Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I spoiled the last 2 but I'm going to pretty much do my best to avoid any spoilers this next time. Granted, we all know the end result, but I still think there are going to be some "I am your father" type surprises in the next one. As for the lava thing, George has done several things in the recent movie that totally contradicts the original Return of the Jedi novel. 1-Owen was Obi-Wan's brother in the book. 2-When Anakin was dying he looks at Luke and whishes he would of met Luke's master Yoda. I would not count on the lava thing, granted it would be cool though. The only thing certain is Anakin and Obi-Wan duke it out in one Hell of a fight. It is pretty much a given that these injuries will be the near fatal ones, if for no other reason than it would be a really great reason for Vader to have a mad-on for the Jedi and a desire to wipe them out. GL said you would see "parts" of the Vader outfit in the next movie, as for the whole thing...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoch Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 After what i've heard he falls into a 'molten pit'. Wether this is lava or just a tar pit i dunno. Apparently he started out with a breathing mask and some machinery on his back and front and then developed it to look more intimidating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderx2048 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 if we find out that luke and leia are twins that blow the surpirse in rotj, if we find out that anakin is vader, then it blows im your father surprise, I mean vader would lose the mystery man that is part of his character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylak Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 It's also possible that some ofthe wounds are due to Count Dooku . . . . remmebering there can only be two Sith, so Dooku and Anakin gotta duke it out in the end too . . . I could see it as Obi - Wan just beating Anakin, and just leaving him for dead. Man, episode III is going to be huge . . . not only the Jedi purge, but two huge saber balltes with Dooku and Anakin, and Obi and Anakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_FinnSon Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 For example, unless the movie starts with Anakin fully in the dark side, Padme can't know she's pregnant as it starts, because he isn't supposed to know he has children--she can't know she's pregnant until he's really obviously in the Dark Side (so she runs from him). At the same time, the movie should explain how Leia and Luke wind up on Alderaan and Tatooine, presumably as it ends, so it has to span many months--an odd thing in an SW movie. Natalie Portman said in recent interview(must have been while they were in AOTC premiere) that she will be with a child. That reminded me of RotJ book where there's a little mention that Leia was older than Luke(I don't know how much that writer made up himself and what unused ideas were borrowed from Lucas), so perhaps this "child" is Leia. Luke might born at the end of the movie and Obi-Wan then takes him to Owen and Beru. I even remember older rumour(possible scene Lucas shooted while doing AOTC, because he doesn't need to show Homestead more than briefly) where Obi-Wan walks through sandstorm while holding Luke and then enters Homestead(very biblical). Also, does Anakin kill the Jedi, or does Darth Vader? This is another thing we can't be certain of. Presumably James Earl Jones is only in the movie for a short while, at the end, but perhaps its a very cinematic few minutes, where we see DV slaughtering Jedi to avenge his being horribly disfigured. I don't think Vader could beat more than one Jedi in a duel, because original trilogy shows us that he lacks finesse in that armor which limits his movement too much and makes him slow. However, I bet he could grip the life out of single Jedi quite easily or kill several guys using the Force, but as a duelist he can't beat Jedi master like Mace Windu who is only second to Yoda. Perhaps it would be more dramatic if Anakin kills many of those Jedi Council members, for example, in rage and is wounded deadly during the duel. Surviving Jedi think he's died, and later Vader enters the Jedi Temple or some hiding place where few remaining Council Members are and takes them out alone. Obi-Wan would be the last one he encounters, but of course survives from that duel; Yoda might have gone hiding to Dagobah much earlier. BTW, they revealed in Celebration II that "pieces of Darth Vader's armor will be seen on several different characters. It will all come together to make the final Vader armor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Natalie Portman said in recent interview(must have been while they were in AOTC premiere) that she will be with child. That reminded me of RotJ book where there's a little mention that Leia was older than Luke(I don't know how much that writer made up himself and what unused ideas were borrowed from Lucas), so perhaps this "child" is Leia. Luke and Leia are twins... Darth Vader in RotJ: "Sooo, you have a twin sister..." I don't think Vader could beat more than one Jedi in a duel, because original trilogy shows us that he lacks finesse in that armour which limits his movement too much and makes him slow. However, I bet he could grip the life out of single Jedi quite easily or kill that guy other way using the Force, but as a duelist he can't beat Jedi master like Mace Windu who is only second to Yoda. Maybe, maybe not. Who really knows? Only Lucas can decide. You're probably right, but really, almost anything could happen at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoshi Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 a good speculation on epIII is at http://www.the-sfa.org it pretty much covers everything about epIII and is prolly what will happen (it is very logical). just go to the public message board and it is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I read it, but I disagree, mainly because trained army regulars would be no match for a dicsiplined, hardend army of clones, trained from birth and bred of the finest stock. More than that, they are genetically enhanced to be docile and to take orders. This situation makes sense if you build on the premise that the clones attack for an organized reason...but I find that unlikely. At the same time, it does present some interesting points, such as how Palpatine keeps the Galaxy in a state of war up until ANH (he doesn't dissolve the senate until then). I'm not sure, I'll get back to you after some deliberation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderx2048 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Vestril I read it, but I disagree, mainly because trained army regulars would be no match for a dicsiplined, hardend army of clones, trained from birth and bred of the finest stock. More than that, they are genetically enhanced to be docile and to take orders. This situation makes sense if you build on the premise that the clones attack for an organized reason...but I find that unlikely. At the same time, it does present some interesting points, such as how Palpatine keeps the Galaxy in a state of war up until ANH (he doesn't dissolve the senate until then). I'm not sure, I'll get back to you after some deliberation WE need is army to protect the republic from future threats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by striderx2048 WE need is army to protect the republic from future threats I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Vestril I read it, but I disagree, mainly because trained army regulars would be no match for a dicsiplined, hardend army of clones, trained from birth and bred of the finest stock. More than that, they are genetically enhanced to be docile and to take orders. This situation makes sense if you build on the premise that the clones attack for an organized reason...but I find that unlikely. At the same time, it does present some interesting points, such as how Palpatine keeps the Galaxy in a state of war up until ANH (he doesn't dissolve the senate until then). I'm not sure, I'll get back to you after some deliberation As for the Clone Troopers, if this Clone War lasts for any length of time, and the battles are heavy, then there will be a reduction in the amount available to fight - remember takes half the current life time to produce them, assuming they would be around 20-25 years old, then 10-12 years to make them. Also I see clones just as humanoid droids, still devoid of independent thought. If you read some small amount of EU books on SW, you will see that one thing the Empire does is become arrogant and ignore what the soldiers or lowly ranked officers have to say about the problems with things. The weaknesses of the AT-AT's on Hoth is explained by one of the soldiers who visited Tatooine and the Mos Eisley Cantina... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by BCanr2d2 As for the Clone Troopers, if this Clone War lasts for any length of time, and the battles are heavy, then there will be a reduction in the amount available to fight - remember takes half the current life time to produce them, assuming they would be around 20-25 years old, then 10-12 years to make them. Also I see clones just as humanoid droids, still devoid of independent thought. If you read some small amount of EU books on SW, you will see that one thing the Empire does is become arrogant and ignore what the soldiers or lowly ranked officers have to say about the problems with things. The weaknesses of the AT-AT's on Hoth is explained by one of the soldiers who visited Tatooine and the Mos Eisley Cantina... I'm sorry, but I don't see the point of your post...we all know how long it takes Clones to be produced, but as we see on Kamino, there are Clones at various stages of development, various batches you might say. Do you think Jango Fett is incapable of independant thought? I suspect his natural imporvisation techniques would come through in the clones and make them far more valuable than droids. With the docile temperment the genetic manipulation gives them, it seems to me that the clones would be as controllable as droids. What is the purpose of your opinting out that the Empire ignores the opinions of its lower ranked officers. Anyone who is in the military can correct me, if I'm wrong here, but how often does a general give a damn what a private has to say about something? I don't mean to be rude...I just missed what you were trying to point out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inSpiRe- Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 ok guys this is my theory. In episode III the senate is destryed, breaking the republic into 2 groups. the Empire and the Rebellion. The clones are taken by the empire, and turned into stormtroopers. ne1 agree with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderx2048 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 There was still a Senate all the way up to the beginning of ANH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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