Twinstar02 Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 I know everyone thinks they are cool looking etc. But has it occurred to anyone else what mega-wussies they are? For supposedly being the most badass bounty hunters in the galaxy they both act and die like a couple of nimrods. Think about it. Jango wasnt even doing anything cool when he was beheaded, mostly wrong place wrong time bye bye melon. Boba dies when a blind guy (Han) bumps his jet pack and sends him into the saarlac pit. Its no wonder that stormtroopers are such easy opponents throughout episodes 4-6, they were were cloned off wimp dna. Hell, Sy Snootles puts up more of a fight than those guys. -TS02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoast2895 Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 actually i think jango fett has the right to be called one of the best bounty hunters in the galaxy for three reasons: 1. went up against obi-wan and wasn't caught 2. shot and killed a jedi that was almost point blank range 3. killed the reek in one shot also he wasn't just killed and beheaded, he went up against the second strongest jedi in the universe and was beheaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COJ Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 trust me, Jango aint no wussy, im sure he's done many other things in that past that made him a SOB of a bounty hunter Boba, well I dunno, we'll see in Episode 3 if he's a wussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbdrummer Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 The Fett's suck...the only reason Lucas brought em back is because for some unknown reason people liked him..prolly cuz he "looked real purty with that space armer an' 'at helmet with th' "T" in it" I mean...really. Boba dies with freakin physical comedy. It was supposed to be funny, and trust me, it was. And Jango....wtf? What a worthless piece of crap. I'm glad he's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorain8 Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 people thought he looked cool in the movies BUT THE TV SPECIAL and the books if you have a prob. with the fetts something is wrong in your head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfmanNCSU Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 In the EU Boba does not die in the pit. He sets off a thermal detenator and gets out. He dies later by some other means. (I think he and Han kill each other in a shoot out) However, this is EU so it is not necesarly true to the Star Wars story line. Plus this does not really make him any cooler than before. I just thought I would add the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 I think people like them so much cause they look cool and they have a cool job: "Bounty hunters" I mean they can probably kill any one in the universe with all their weapons and battle experiance , but a jedi is another thing. I mean all the fancy guns and gadgets are no match against a light saber and the force. Anyhow I like the fetts but not as much as a good ol' jedi:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shidobu Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 I agree. It's REALLY unfair to say that the Fetts are pansies because they couldn't beat a jedi master. it took like 2000 battle droids to stop a jedi knight and his padwan from fighting. And Jango had to go up against the 2nd most powerful jedi in the universe. also notice, Jango fought Obi-wan, a full out jedi-knight for 10 years, to a draw, and almost killed him TWICE. No one without the use of the force has come close to that kind of feat. Now Boba on the other hand...he hasn't been tested yet. We'll see about him in EpIII. Till then, back off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 sure stormtroopers are really clones? sure the clone troopers are, but that in thier name. i think the stormtrooper- clone relationship is more complex than most think, besides, in the EU all the troopers tend to be draftees conscripts or volunteers. also, think of it, if clones were still common place in the original trilogy era why would there be a war specifically titled for involving clones? pay attention children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Oh please, The only reason that Jango could stand up against Obi-Wan was because of his nifty gadgets, anyone could have had those. A jetpack? that sure shows some l33t skill to use that thing. A flamer? again, a jedi at point blank and he's lame enough to use a flamer?! Akimbo blasters? Wow, cool... Jango got KICKED two f*cking times by obi-wan, and he didnt even kick back or use some cool martial move. I really can't stand this wicked fascination of a simple bounty hunter... I mean, in TESB, we see several bounty hunters, Boba and jango aren't alone in this business. And I can restate that: Jango and Boba are NOTHING without their precioussssss gear... Nowhere in the films do we see any sort of cool move pulled off by them. Sure, they might have battle experience and in the EU, they might kick ass.... But if someone stripped them of their armor and gave them a blaster, they'd just be a veteran storm trooper with an ugly helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValorXII Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Jango went up against and was killed by who Anikin called (Strongly implied) the most powerfull Jedi in the Universe and he is a wuss? Boba is renowned as the greatest bounty hunter in the universe. He went out fighting in the last battle. How is he a wuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by ValorXII Jango went up against and was killed by who Anikin called (Strongly implied) the most powerfull Jedi in the Universe and he is a wuss? Boba is renowned as the greatest bounty hunter in the universe. He went out fighting in the last battle. How is he a wuss? Easy now, I realize half of you have Fett avatars and are die hard fans of 'em, but really, NOwhere in the movies (and I don't trust the EU) do we see them perform anything special without their godlike equipment. Jango has rocketlaunchers, flamers, blasters, net-wires, bombs, jet-packs and stuff, yet he still doesn't kill anyone except a jedi who was caught off guard. You DON'T see him perform backflips, circle-kicks, cool dodges, amazing shots or anything like that. In the books, the script and the EU he might be *famous* as a bountyhunter but until i see some l33t skill in the movies, my opinion stands. As for Boba (nice, intimidating name BTW) he dies because some blind smuggler *accidentally* activates his cool jetpack and he flies screaming into the maw of saarlac. Yes he dies, no his armor or thermal detonator doesn't save him. He is devoured over a period of 1000 years. Geez, don't take some half-assed fan-fiction for fact people. I am sick and tired of fett fanboys claiming they are bountyhunters of tha universe or something similar. It's all in their silly gear, nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 He's right. Even C-3PO could wear that stuff and still be able to do the same tricks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Ahem... No, c3po couldn't wear that gear and kick jedi butt, but someone trained in using it could. A trooper veteran, fx. I realize it takes a minimum of skill to use the jetpacks and all those exotic weapons and gadgets, but the fett's really don't show that skill. If Lucas had put Ray Park (Mr. Maul) in that suit and done his wicked moves, THEN I'd be impressed. Notice the grace and fluidity of their motions? I bet Lucas hired the plumber from across the street to play Boba Fett. He sure looks like a mean bountyhunter... Give Han Solo that gear, and a period of adjusting to the jetpack, and he'd be "The mega-leet bountyhunter of the universe" too... Notice how boba is standing completely still and firing his guns? apart from jetpacking around (screwing up his aim and making him a fat target), he doesnt look for cover or anything a real leet soldier would do... It's all in the damn gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 I was just being sarcatic, not literal. Besides, I do think it in the Fett's respects, it's the possessions that make the man. Even his ship has a disruptor thing so his victims cannot spot him on radar. Yeah Boba, you're well good. That's not him being stealthy, just admitting his ship has nice machine upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSkoolJedi Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 *Agrees With Darklighter* I Don't See whats so special about them...... there just suped up troopers... just like a suped up car you can add parts upgrades and whatever but at the end of the day theyre still cars... just like the Fetts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by Darklighter I was just being sarcatic, not literal. Besides, I do think it in the Fett's respects, it's the possessions that make the man. Even his ship has a disruptor thing so his victims cannot spot him on radar. Yeah Boba, you're well good. That's not him being stealthy, just admitting his ship has nice machine upgrades. I knew you were sarcastic, I just played along with it... And it's not always the possessions that makes the man. A real SAS soldier would beat boba's and jango's asses simultaniously... I heard a SAS soldier survive for weeks on nothing and slay several people only with his knife or something similar. The Fett's *could* show skill, but they don't. Boba was just a bad actor with some hi-fi gear, not a skilled killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul-Burn Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Being a great bounty hunter doesn't nesseceraly mean a great killer. Knowing to choose your battles is important. I'm standing in their guard, but I'm pretty sure that if they would easily beat any non-jedi easily.... About the part with the Saarlac... Don't forget Boba is the ONLY person ever to survive and escape a Saarlac (20 years after ROTJ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValorXII Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 "Easy now, I realize half of you have Fett avatars and are die hard fans of 'em, but really, NOwhere in the movies (and I don't trust the EU) do we see them perform anything special without their godlike equipment. Jango has rocketlaunchers, flamers, blasters, net-wires, bombs, jet-packs and stuff, yet he still doesn't kill anyone except a jedi who was caught off guard. You DON'T see him perform backflips, circle-kicks, cool dodges, amazing shots or anything like that. In the books, the script and the EU he might be *famous* as a bountyhunter but until i see some l33t skill in the movies, my opinion stands. As for Boba (nice, intimidating name BTW) he dies because some blind smuggler *accidentally* activates his cool jetpack and he flies screaming into the maw of saarlac. Yes he dies, no his armor or thermal detonator doesn't save him. He is devoured over a period of 1000 years. Geez, don't take some half-assed fan-fiction for fact people. I am sick and tired of fett fanboys claiming they are bountyhunters of tha universe or something similar. It's all in their silly gear, nothing special" Woah woah woah. I really hope that reply was not specificly directed at me. I've never said anything to show I was a fett fan (let alone die-hard fan) or anything of the like. And I certainly didn't say that Boba didn't die. I was just rebutting the fact that you said that they were wusses. Jango dies in fear. That doesn't automatically make him a wuss. The reason he was backing up and being as tactical as a babarian I would assume is because he was terrified. But before you jump on me, compare being corned by a Jedi Master to having a gun to you head. If you are terrified because someone is holding a gun to you, are you still a wuss? I realise that they would be useless without they're gear. But their gear their merit. Is why they are claimed as the most powerfull bounty hunters in the Galaxy. They somehow gathered all the cash for some funky gadgets and learned how to use them pretty decently. I think people just say Jango and Boba are awesome because of their gear, and not many people will argue that. But they need something more personal to attach their sentement to rather than the gear. People say Carnage is awesome, but in reality, he is just a guy with a symbiot (Sp?) attached. People don't say the symbiot is awesome as often as Carnage is. Sorry. thats the best analagy I could come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Also why do people keep saying that the "Fett's" kick jedi butt? From all the movies so far I have only seen 1 jedi die at the hands(or guns) of a fett. It was that jedi who was going after dooku, and jango shoots him in the back(or was it the side?) and he was either killed by the blasts or the fall. -The fight jango had with obiwan was a good fight , but he didnt win that fight by a long shot. I mean even when Obi wans lightsaber was knocked out of his hand, he was still kicking ass with only his jedi kicks and stuff. Jango had to rely on his jetpack,graplinghook, missles,blasters, ...ect, and he still didnt finish off Obi wan. He ended up fleeing the fight. -Bobba's fight with Luke was even less intense. -Dont get me wrong, I do like them. But vs. a Jedi they dont stand a chance. -Even less of a chance vs. a SITH:) ---imagine jango or bobba vs. Darth maul! -One final thing. Bobba is the bounty hunter but Vader is the one who actually captures Han solo and puts him in the carbonite encasing. So he didnt even do that himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by Soul-Burn Being a great bounty hunter doesn't nesseceraly mean a great killer. Knowing to choose your battles is important. I'm standing in their guard, but I'm pretty sure that if they would easily beat any non-jedi easily.... About the part with the Saarlac... Don't forget Boba is the ONLY person ever to survive and escape a Saarlac (20 years after ROTJ). Hmmmm.... I don't quite get what you're saying.... But boba fett in ROTJ doesn't quite look like a person who could kill someone, let alone capture someone. In fact, I don't recall him EVER killing someone in the films, please correct if im wrong here, and he has NO part in capturing Han Solo. Yes, about the part with the saarlac, I already stated that I don't give a flying f*ck about the fan fiction... Anyone can write whatever they want, look: "Luke is NOT the son of Anakin skywalker". Now i've changed the whole universe, and added my part to the expanded universe... how cool. The expanded universe can be anything, it can even cease to be starwars (dark empire, not starwars, although cool), and that's why i dislike it and don't take it for written fact. Good ole Boba is thrown down into the saarlac and his chewed up, killed, devoured and so on. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by ValorXII [bWoah woah woah. I really hope that reply was not specificly directed at me. I've never said anything to show I was a fett fan (let alone die-hard fan) or anything of the like. And I certainly didn't say that Boba didn't die. I was just rebutting the fact that you said that they were wusses. Jango dies in fear. That doesn't automatically make him a wuss. The reason he was backing up and being as tactical as a babarian I would assume is because he was terrified. But before you jump on me, compare being corned by a Jedi Master to having a gun to you head. If you are terrified because someone is holding a gun to you, are you still a wuss? [/b] No, no, no! That was not intended for you! And I never called them wussies, twinstar did. I just called the first person who leapt to the defence of the fett's a fanboy, because most of you seem to be one... It was stupid of me, and i apologise. Now, I never said anything about the last moments of Jango, IIRC. And running for your life is smart, not something wussy. But, If Lucas were to portray Jango as a badass bountyhunter, he'd first let Jango use his "wire-gun" on Mace. And THEN flame him! Wouldn't that show some more skill than simply blasting away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by MotionMan Also why do people keep saying that the "Fett's" kick jedi butt? From all the movies so far I have only seen 1 jedi die at the hands(or guns) of a fett. It was that jedi who was going after dooku, and jango shoots him in the back(or was it the side?) and he was either killed by the blasts or the fall. I couldn't agree more. Well, I did call the fett's "jedi butt-kickers", but that was simply because many people here think that they eats jedis for breakfast. Sarcasm, if you like. Yeah, the only jedi he killed was because he was caught off guard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinstar02 Posted May 25, 2002 Author Share Posted May 25, 2002 Well I have read all the arguments and after much deliberation....I stick with my original opinion. They are a couple of pushovers. Zam Wesell was more impressive in Ep2 than the Fetts were. Think about it. Good thing for the rebellion that stormtroopers were cloned off of them, might have had a whole different outcome otherwise. And I agree with the posts that the EU doesnt count (even George says so, how can you argue with that?) -ts02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawara Ven Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Consider this: Boba & Jango are villians in the Star Wars universe, a good vs. evil world with the same "rules" as aincent comic-book stlye serials. Of course they can never "win," no Star Wars villian can win. They can get the upper hand and make a nuisance of themselves, but good ALWAYS has to beat evil. Since they can't actually accomplish anything, like, say, kill a main character, all a SW villian has is to look cool, which Bob & Jo do a pretty good job of. Boba hunts down the Falcon in ep. V, that was pretty good, and I bet that the buzz in un-internet-linked SW communities built up the mysterious guy known only as Bounty Hunter. So remamer that a bad guy can't win in the SW universe. Maybe in the EU or the "shudder" Star Trek universes. But not in SW. Kind of off-topic, but I've surmised that if, oh, say, IG-88 and Data battled on even ground, IG-88 would win in the ST Universe, which favours "reality" (IG-88 is built for killin'!) and Data would win in the SW universe (he's a good guy!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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