What Happened to Qui Gon Jin?

[Grogan]

I was wondering, why didn't Qui gon jin dissapear when Darth Maul killed him?

Obi wan disapeared and so did Yoda, and i might be wrong, but didn't Darth Vader aswell?

 

Is there a good reason for this, or was is a @#$% up buy George Lucas?

[Ben_Walker]

I think he didn't disappear because Qui-Gon didn't expect to die. But when Yoda and Obi-Wan died, they expected it.

[Datheus]

If my memory serves me correctly, Luke cremated Vader..but it could have just been his suit that Luke burnt, I don't remember seeing Vader fade away though, just dying...and uh...I think then burning...

 

And perhaps it's because Qui Gon was only a Jedi Knight? Not a Master? I don't know for sure, I don't know a whole lot of the background info... I'm just kinda throwing ideas out there

[-=Darkflame=-]

I think the reapearing of yoda and obi wan was because they indeed gave up their fisicle form to become more powerfull in form of thought in lukes mind

 

 

the reason why vader was like this bleu gus at the end could be explained in more than one reason

 

 

maybe because he was lukes son and dont forget he wasnt an ordenary person he was conseaved by the medeclorians(or howerver you spel it)

 

 

I think qui-gon just died because hes a regular jedi master

[Chastan]

According to somewhere on starwars.com, anakin's body DID disappear... just FYI

[~*H0ly_sHat*~]

frm what i heard frm starwars.com, we will have to wait till all the episode are out to know the truth abt this disappearing stuff.... so guess all we can do now is just speculate¬

[BCanr2d2]

There are two kinds of Force theories that the Jedi followed.

The Living Force, which if you listen to Qui Gon Jinn at the beginning of The Phantom Menace, he mentions about the Living Force. This is more of an impulsive kind of reaction to the force, reacting to little ebbs and flows in the Force.

 

Most of the other Jedi, including Obi-Wan, Yoda and Anakin, follow the Unifying Force, looking at the long term kind of reaction to what they sense in the Force. This is why they act with a more cautious approach to most things.

 

It seems to be that if you believe in the Living Force, then you wont come back in spirit form, although Qui Gon is heard in Attack of the Clones. Both Yoda and Obi-Wan died for the better good of the Force, ie sacrified their life for the Force...

[Yoda_623]

I have heard that the reason Qui-Gon didn't dissapear was because he was not true to the council.He would bend the rules a little bit. (Example:When he turned the dice so that he could get Anakin instead of his mother.)

[Absath]

hehe tell me that guy didnt spell physical as "fisical" i think my IQ just dropped a point just by reading that.

 

 

 

-Abs

[CraZy_B]

...he said "fisicle";)

[techsurfer]

Anakin wasn't true to the council or the Jedi order - he kills them all but he still returns as a 'ghost'! I believe we'll have to wait for the proper reason!

[Bungalow]

You disappear to become one with the force, maybe Qui Gon doesn't disappear because he ain't a true light side Jedi

[The Truthful Liar]

Originally posted by CraZy_B

...he said "fisicle";)

 

fisicle - LOL

 

ow.. my head hurts now.. too much brain power being used to decipher!

[Yoda_623]

The reason Anakin is a ghost is because he kills the emperor

before dying so he returned to the light side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Darth_Lando]

We can speculate all we want about disappearing since George Lucas hasn't disclosed what is going on about that none of us really know.

 

So far, according to the trilogy, Obiwan is the first Jedi to disappear which is in Episode 4.

 

My theory is Yoda and Obiwan learn something new about the force either in Episode 3 of after episode 3 about disapearing that wasn't known before.

 

That is why when Obiwan faced Vader in EP4 he said "If you strike me down now I will become more powerful than you could ever imagine." and that is why Darth Vader was stepping on Obiwans clothes after he killed him and he disappeared because he had not seen that before.

 

That is my opinion at least.

[greedo626]

I alwys thought that a Jedi dissapeared when if they were ready to die (e.g. Obi Wan, Yoda). and I do remember reading somewhere that Anikin's body did dissapear and that Luke just burned his armor. by the look on Qui Gon face when he was stabbed I'd say he wasn't expecting to die.

[Hulk88]

Well it was mentioned Qui Gon was a padawan to Count Dooku and both have a similar system of beliefs, as of not puttin faith in the senate and those that side with the senate.

 

Either way Qui Gon just want to be burnt and wanted the good guys to eat him BBQ style.

[Medivh]

In the books, I belive there is some secret planet of the Sith. Exar Kun falls to the dark side there. In the inner recesses of it, there is some crystal thingy holding the spirits of some fallen jedi. Perhaps since Qui-gon was struck down by a Sith, he went there.

[Qui-GONE Jinn]

this sounds veeeery far-fetched.

[Da MaN]

I think he didn't disappear because Qui-Gon didn't expect to die. But when Yoda and Obi-Wan died, they expected it.

 

Well said Ben Walker,

 

From the stuff I've seen. Here are the "facts"

 

You do not have to be a Jedi Master to be "one with the force". This is seen when Dorsk 82 is killed somewhere in the NJO series. He was definitely not a master.

 

You have to accept death.

Pretty much all jedis who accepted their death and were ready to pass has disappeared. If I'm wrong here let me know.

 

If you're a sith/ Dark Jedi then you will not be "one with the force". Self explanatory.

 

Umm I need ro drive home now.

[Throno-Denkai]

First thing i gotto say is, he is not a jedi leader like Yoda or Mace Windu but he is hell of a jedi master. If Qui-gon did teach Anakin, he might not became Darth Vader at the first place. Whatever, why didnt Qui-gon disapeared when he died? Well, even disapearing when you are about to die needs the force. Like the man said, he didnt expected to die. There is a possibility that George Lucas forgat about Yoda and Obiwan.

[GidionTheDead]

First of all: Forgot EU! I really liked the novels and I re-read them from ime to time, but they are no longer canon. Sorry...

 

Now the explanation:

Usually Jedi never came back after death. After Anakin slaughtered the Tusken Raiders, we could hear the voice of Qui Gon Jinn. He returned (still not physical/visible, but he IS there).

 

After this imbalance became stronger (we are likely to see that in Episode 3), Yoda discovered a way to remain behind, while giving up the own body. He taught Obi and Anakin. Point. End of the story...

[Master Burner]

hmm this is my first post (YAY )

 

actually there have been more than Yoda/Obi Wan/Anakin that reappeared as a ghost. Exar Kun does that and he turns Kyp Durron over to the darkside, when Lukes students finally beats Exar Kun, his old master returns and says something like "finally my student you have been defeated" or something like that, and the jedi Leia meets in the holocron in "Dark Empire" he tells about that the moment and the past is one in the force, and that guy is about 300 years old or more... so in history more than one Jedi have done that and a lot of siths so far i have heard. Emperor Palpatine's clones which is inhabitated by the spirit of the original emperor and then there is Exar Kun who was seduced by the dark side on the siths secret temple and finally Exar Kun returned as a ghost...

[techsurfer]

I don't believe Gidion because Darth vader was surprised when Obi-Wan disappeared so Anakin couldn't have know exactly how to disappear otherwise it would be a surprise to him. There must be something to do with the imbalance in the Force. Maybe due to the strong Dark Side presence ala The Emperor the Force energy of previous Jedi is kept alive to try and compensate.