Natty Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 Yeah, Luke is a whinger, like his father before him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOUman Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 oh yes. luke's a whiner. remember luke vs. vader in ESB. "I am your father!" "NO! THATS NOT TRUE *whine whine whine*" jack ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 Originally posted by LOUman I also think Hayden was Lucas best choice for the part of Anakin Skywalker. i agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOUman Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 ay. Haydn is a great actor. but Anakin is a bit ... strange. for example: Obi-Wan: "Relax. Concentrate." Anakin: "What about Padmé?" why he doesn't care about Obi-Wan's or his own ass? i know.. he loves her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOUman Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 luke is not just a whiner, he's not very smart too: Luke: "I have a sister? Say, this isn't one of those 'Certain point of view' things, is it?" Ben: "A lie? No... To keep you safe, and to keep costs down, your sister and you were separated... she went to some very good schools..." Luke: "A sister! She's not evil, too, is she?" Obi-Wan: "...THINK GREAT BIG BUNS OF HAIR!" Luke: "My sister is a WOOKIEE!!!? - Strange... I haven't even started shaving, yet... Oh, well... RRRRRAAAAAAAARRRRGGHH!!!!!" Obi-Wan: "Luke, that's the smartest thing you've said all day..." ________________ http://al.jediknightii.net/dcm.htm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkum Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Anakin should've been played by someone else. Hayden Christensen plain sucked at Anakin's role, he's overly dramatic. And they made Anakin a badguy right from the start of the movie (the whining kinda plays into this as well). I think they should've made his character a bit less annoying and not so much 'turning to the dark side' stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkum Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Now that i think of it, Hayden wasn't too bad, I guess Lucas made Anakin's character whiny and overly dramatic. So I put the blame on Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOUman Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 That's not exactly what i think. Anakin did from the beginning (i mean since Episode I) what he wanted to do. in ep2 it's not different. Obi-Wan tells him orders that they have to protect Senator Amidala. Anakin wants to find the Assassin. Master Windu tells Anakin "Stay where you are. Protect the Senator at all costs." but no. because of "Miss Obi-Wan Saving" Anakin did not follow Mace Windus orders. And about the whining... look, he erased a tusken camp. he killed them by the lead of his anger which means he felt the dark side. And he is the father of Luke, so there must be a bit whining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Originally posted by LOUman ay. Haydn is a great actor. but Anakin is a bit ... strange. for example: Obi-Wan: "Relax. Concentrate." Anakin: "What about Padmé?" why he doesn't care about Obi-Wan's or his own ass? i know.. he loves her. that, and he knows that him and obi-wan are total bad ass jedi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOUman Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 yeah! but Plo Koon is tha man! if he ever takes off his eye protection he kills everybody with his Jedi-Lasersight trick! i sound like a n00b... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOUman Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 but if Mace Windu joins the party... Mace: "Gimme my lightsaber." Jango: "Which one is it?" Mace: "The one that says 'Bad Motherf***er'." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkum Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 His character sucked. They gave him the worst dialogue. He was weak. He was bratty. Enough saud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Weak..............how about you go jump off of a REALLY high skyscraper, and before you hit the ground grab a passing vehicle and hitch a ride, and not end up dead. Then you can call anakin weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Weak..............how about you go jump off of a REALLY high skyscraper, and before you hit the ground grab a passing vehicle and hitch a ride, and not end up dead. Then you can call anakin weak Even you know ET Warrior, that there is NO WAY that even a Jedi could have survived that, but if you want to make the film action packed then you have to resort to Arnold style action. Still there a lot of parts in AOTC that are as realistic as it can get in SW, so I am not saying that all the scenes are just silly action, if it was all silly action then the saber cuts on Obi Wan's foot should have just heart him a little, but not render him incapable to fight. To the Anakin not liking part, well Anakin is NOT supposed to be the hero figure in SW, Obi Wan IS, Anakin is supposed to be arogent, full of rage, act like a spoiled kid if he doesn't get his own way etc. All those above and more are the reason's he becomes Vader, his feelings are not what gets him in trouble, as other Jedi to illogically risk their lifes because of feelings too, its just if it doesn't go Anakin's way, then he will force it to go his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 Even you know ET Warrior, that there is NO WAY that even a Jedi could have survived that, but if you want to make the film action packed then you have to resort to Arnold style action. Ah, but a Jedi COULD survive that, as the canon now indicates. Don't know all the Force powers he had to use to accomplish the feat, but apparently it's accomplishable. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 the saber cuts on Obi Wan's foot should have just heart him a little, but not render him incapable to fight. Actually, he got cut in the upper arm and the thigh. Those are two severe burns on parts that are important for saber fighting. Try getting a metal rod, and stick it in a fire for 30 minutes till it's glowing red. then press it up against your arm till it burns through a half inch of flesh, then do the same against your leg. That is what happened to Obi-Wan. (and yes, a jedi COULD survive that.....i saw it happen with my own eyes!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 To the Anakin not liking part, well Anakin is NOT supposed to be the hero figure in SW, Obi Wan IS, Anakin is supposed to be arogent, full of rage, act like a spoiled kid if he doesn't get his own way etc. All those above and more are the reason's he becomes Vader, his feelings are not what gets him in trouble, as other Jedi to illogically risk their lifes because of feelings too, its just if it doesn't go Anakin's way, then he will force it to go his way. well said!! :D :D any TRUE star wars fan would know that anakin's character was made the way he is on purpose, all those that complain are basically saying that obi-wan, windu, or even yoda could've become vader cuz they expect him to be like them, well he ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE so understand that now, ok? the creators know what they were doing, they do everything in the movies on PURPOSE, and believe me, NONE of the people on lucasforums could come close to being better than GL and his team so if you don't like a part but still have to have the video/dvd (or pirated copies you bastards) then fast forward through that part and don't complain:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 I wasn't meant to write Obi Wan's foot was cut, I was going not to mention any part of his body at all, it was meant to go "Obi Wan was cut", thanks for pointing it out though:D . ET Warrior, if you agree that being cut by a light saber is really painful (very painful description from you), then you agree that getting your whole body pulled by a speeder which travels at a higher speed then a car, you expect his arm to rip off. It is like saying that Anakin grabs a moving train, and expects nothing to happen to him. If it is a force power, as you said, then it could be force speed maybe, allowing Anakin to react faster, and I also agree then that Anakin could have survived it. I can't believe that Anakin was powerful enough to survive it, but was not able to fight Dooku, I can just imagine how strong these Jedi are, they make Vader look like a fool. Vader could do the force throat choke move, Yoda and Dooku can move very large objects, so why did Yoda never take on Vader himself, even at 900 he could move Luke's X-Wing (as mentioned before in another post) with no problems. Then again, who wants to see a little green old man kill Vader? I just always thought the Sith was more powerful, but Yoda seems stronger then Sidious, even Vader did kick his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkum Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 Hopefully in Episode III, they'll make Anakin's character more bad-a$$ like Mace Windu, Yoda, Obi-Wan, or Plo Koon. I thought Darth MAul's character was also bad-a$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 Originally posted by Arkum Hopefully in Episode III, they'll make Anakin's character more bad-a$$ like Mace Windu, Yoda, Obi-Wan, or Plo Koon. I thought Darth MAul's character was also bad-a$$ Anakins charecter will certainly be very BAD ASS in ep3. He will be "DARTH VADER" for a part of the movie. He will or help kill most of the Jedi. I havent really thought about how Anakin will act beofre he becomes Vader in ep.3 He may act a bit more mature but with traces of his rebeliuos, whiney ways that he showed in ep.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 ANAKIN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WHINEY IN EPISODE 2!!!!!!! THEY DID EVERYTHING IN EPISODE 2 THE WAY IT SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE!!! ANAKIN WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE A LAID BACK KID W/A "#### IT ALL" ATTITUDE!!!! YOU GUYS THINK YOU COULD'VE MADE ANAKIN BETTER?!?!?! I KNOW FOR A FACT NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON HERE COULD COME CLOSE TO MAKING A BETTER CHARACTER LET ALONE A BETTER MOVIE (ah hell if you're all such badass movie makers then (i'll go easy on you) just remake episode 2 the way it "should've been") AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY ANAKIN ACTS THEN DON'T WATCH HIM FOR GODSAKES, I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS WHINING! GODDAMNIT THEY'RE WHINING JUST AS MUCH, DO YOU THINK LUCAS COULD'VE MADE A DIFFERENT CHARACTER FOR EACH PERSON, THE WAY THEY FELT ANAKIN SHOULD'VE ACTED??? NO? WELL THEN DEAL WITH HIS WHINING AND QUIT YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!! and i know some are gonna flame me but i don't care, cuz they are pathetic for bitching about something that brought them here in the first place, but if you DO make a better episode 2 then i will send live video feed of me killing myself so you all can be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 calm down. Sheesh:rolleyes: I know why he was whiney. I wouldnt have had it any other way. It shows Anakin's charecter is full of emotion. There are alot of events that happen to him that totally rip him apart mentally and emotionaly. It shows the viewer his gradual evolution into the dark side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 at least you understand motionman (badass avatar by the way) my last post was centered toward all the pissants who say "anakin sucked, the actor sucked, the way they portrayed him sucked, they should've made him less whiney, etc." anakin was my favorite character and everyone who had a hand in making him knew what they were doing 100% of the way, i just don't like reading posts by people who obviously know nothing about episodes 4-6 and what becomes of anakin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Thx about the avatar. I know you really like anakin. I do too. There are better ways you could have said what you have to say. I dont think Hayden did a bad Job playing the part of anakin either. It was a hard role for someone to play. He pulled it off nicely I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Who can say how Anakin and Obi-Wan survived their falls? Or Mace in the Geonosis Arena... or Darth Maul, even, in SW1 when he was knocked about a fifty feet from one catwalk in the reactor to another... Or Luke, when he fell through Bespin's superstructure rather than join Vader... Surviving great falls is obviously just something Jedi can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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