coolguy415 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 hey guys please do somethign about the lunge for your next patch. i mean, it is almost impossible to counter the lunge now. Even when you know its coming there is still no way around it because its impossible to counter. I THINK THE LUNGE IS REALLY KILLING THE GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiteche5 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 It's very easy to counter. Just strafe to the side and and use a heavy slash down. That move has a long recovery in which to hit the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Agreed, lunge is extremely easy to avoid and counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellFyre69 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 if u cant handle a simple move that u dodge... then dont play the game.. seriously... Lunge is probably one of the easiest atks to dodge.. just dont walk into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Not to mention it takes 4 or 5 lunges to kill someone that doesn't have a saber out (test it out on an afk standing there with his pistol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Warrior Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Blue lunge is FAT TOO POWERFUL in the standard game, its too easy to pull off instantly and its far too easy to spam, I run the DUEL SE mod and have tamed it a little, but yes its easy to dodge. The techniques these guys mention above are valid and do work but it is tedious to fight these crouching fellas, it does tend to lead to people crouching for the duration af a fight. Just keep an eye out for servers that are running the duel se mod and you may find they've tweaked it sensibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Heh, people will be complaining about the medium finisher next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToppDog Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Lunge too powerful? LOL. It is perfectly balanced compared to the red & yellow special moves. It is faster because it is the special move for the "fast" stance. It is still the weakest of the three special moves, as it should be because blue is the weakest of the three stances. Countering is easy as has been pointed out; simply keep moving to the side & attack from there. I do this all the time anyway & rarely have this problem. Opponants are more vulnerable when attacked from the side anyway so your damage inflicted on them will be higher than from attacks facing head on. I call it "Slash & Dash", simple & effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightHawk420 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 I wouldn't even consider it tedious to fight a lunge only expert. I call it an easy kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00M-187 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Spider AL Heh, people will be complaining about the medium finisher next. What are you refering to as "medium finisher"? The foreward+ jump & attack downward slash move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein_c Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Do we really want to nerf another move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabay10 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 i dont know what your talking about, the lunge is the easiest attack not only to avoid but to counter, u can kick him back, u can roll to the right left or back, or u can go blue stance and when he does it roll behind him and hit him in the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone_1102A Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Dont Block it then you idiot, just move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poll Cat Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 The Red Stance lunge is powerful u say, ya, but then again it is the most devastating attack u could ever pull! It is a lunge where u leap at ur opponent with no record for your own life, and swing as viciously as u can with ur saber in attempt to slash them right in half. If any attack should be powerful it is this one. Then Again, in the Star Wars movies, whenever you get hit with a lightsaber it almost means imminent death, even a small, light attack, would kill someone.Technically all the attacks should do the same amount of damage depending on where u hit someone.But then there would be no incentive to use different moves. And BEsides, the Lunge is the most easiest thing to avoid. Odds are, you'll end up killing someone who does the attack on u, than the person doing it. Thats just my 2 cents though, later, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellFyre69 Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 1.04 is now pretty balance... Blue lunge is quick and powerfull.. but also keep in mind, if he misses, he's open to have a clean hit.. the same thing goes to all the DFAs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 lol....imo lunge should be stronger... right now it does 2 hits, 30-60 damage, kinda of weak if you ask me and it lost the aerial surpise when they disabled aerial lunge most inexperienced lungers tend to stay crouched when trying to lunge, and anyone can see that a mile off and can be easily countered. when some one lunge at you, you can: sidestep, side kick, hope for a knockdown strafe right+ attack on red stance back pedal, sabre throw do the yellow dfa saber throw in yellow while running up and attack when his frozen for a quick 60 damage. back pedal, lunge back when they are frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=Lord Oz=- Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Honestly, this is freaking ridiculous. I sincerely hope RAVEN does NOT listen to this. I hope they leave the saber alone from now on unless the amp the backstab damage back up to where it was INTENDED to be. (read the manual, backstab was supposed to be a one hit kill) Force powers are even now. Which is good. Backstab is nerfed too much, which is bad. Now people cry about lunge after even it got somewhat tweaked. When will it end. Don't you people see the lack of populated servers? Each day less and less people are playing the game. Why? Because they're pissed that this great game has been torn apart by crybabies and RAVEN who listened to them. It's one thing to fix a game because people are hacking it to cheat, such as the case with UT and Quake and CS, but to continuously patch and change gameplay for the sake of a bunch of un-creative crybabies is just ridiculous. If a 1.05 patch comes out and they nerf ANYTHING at all, I'll take this game to EB and use it in exchange for another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatalStrike Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 *sigh* I can't say I am surpised that there is a call to nerf yet another special move. When will you people listen! I have told you ove and over again that nerfing is not the solution and that it will not stop until the only viable moves to use are basic swings. 1.05 = Nerfed kicks and nerfed blue lunge. (unless my anti nerf movement gets Ravens attention) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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