DarkLord_44 Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Thx. They work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontlikegeorge Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 yeah thats pretty good for a skin besides she looks like shes on hella crack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 2, 2002 Author Share Posted September 2, 2002 she looks like she's "on hella crack?!" um....can you be more specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan X Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Looked great up until the face change :\. Obviously the clothes needed to be a bit more up to par, and I THINK you did that. Although Mara Jade is sexy. The old face you had left on there be4 u slapped on that ugly one was best . " Looks like she's on crack " - I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradFu Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I think by "on hella crack", he means she looks like she hasn't had enough sleep, and is compensating by wearing too much makeup. I have to agree, I like the face from this one better: http://www.geocities.com/robinhawk/MaraJade2.jpg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 so cut down on the makeup, that's all? i only added that to give her a more female tone. the original face was basically just a recoloring of Padme, the new one is from scratch. anything else besides the makeup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontlikegeorge Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 and fix the eyes, and pretty much the whole face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan X Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 I agree that the whole face should be changed utterly, or reverted back to what it was originally. I agree that you may have just recolored padme, although the current padme skin is somewhat....strange. You see its a great skin and model, but the problem was in the face. It really was strange to see padme smiling at me whilst I sabered her. I really liked some of your changes regarding her face. Maybe its just me, but I really think you did a great job re-doing that padme model except for the recent face change. You see the eyes are a bit small...and she looks somewhat like an old woman. That or perhaps my aunt I understood that you chose the Mara from the official guide you characters, which really protrays how I think she looks. You got the clothes up to par...but I really think that the mara from the official guide to characters looks perfectly and brilliantly young and beautiful, while your face really doesnt portray that look. Such as the clothes do. Aside from the face, I saw that the darker clothed Mara looked somewhat nice also aside from the face. Although did it have that Dooku type cape? I was thinking if there was an update to the file...you could use the second padme type model, in which includes her cape. In which you could recolor the hair and face, and then change the clothes black, and color the cape purple as seen in this pic. http://www.aravenwood.free-online.co.uk/Nov99/downloads/the_goodies/Your_art/Elektro-Mara%20Jade.jpg Anyway , I hope some of the criticism helped somewhat. We really dont come here to nag, but just to do what we can to help you out. *bows* Obi-Wan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 thank you so much obi-wan for actually giving me your thoughts, i will take what you said into serious consideration for an update. i was thinking about the whole cape thing but never got around to it. the face just took me so long to do, but i'll reskin it and make her look younger and um...not on crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 7, 2002 Author Share Posted September 7, 2002 All right guys... I've updated my file and the face seems to look better now, so tell me what you think....any more suggestions before I resubmit it? http://www.geocities.com/robinhawk/marajadescreen2.txt PLEASE. tell me your suggestions. this skin was not an easy one. thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 9, 2002 Author Share Posted September 9, 2002 are there any thoughts whatsoever? please help me make this perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontlikegeorge Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 ok, well the face is still ****ed up. i guess ill try to describe what i think is wrong: the eyes are too beady and set back, and maybe a bit too high; the nose and brow ridges are way too defined also, the skin tone on the arms etc needs to be worked on; and the pant/shirt/boots/belts need more texture to them its an ok skin, but it still looks like a newbie skin; ive noticed a lot of skins you post, dont really look complete too me, you should work on making more texture on the surfaces (artistically speaking) basically, you got the skills and the determination to skin well, you just need to stick with them, and work on the points you lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleek Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Everything looks to light. You need to add more dark areas in certain places. Especially the arms and gloves you have. They look like they are bright colors with a tad bit of shadows in them. Darker darker darker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 12, 2002 Author Share Posted September 12, 2002 http://www.geocities.com/robinhawk/newface.txt Okay, I've attempted to completely redo the face of Mara.....does this look any better. From what I can see, the eyes may be too big and the skin may be too light, but I'll let the people I'm making it for decide. Please give some comments...I really appreciate them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleek Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Looks better...of course there needs to be some more detail (shading around the eyes and stuff). Mabey somehow make the eyes not look so flat on her face. Otherwise, I think it looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 12, 2002 Author Share Posted September 12, 2002 yeah, without changing the model, i don't know how i'll get the eyes to stand out unless I use some skinning trick or something, which is certainly possible. Otherwise, do you think the eyes are too big or the skin is too light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 12, 2002 Author Share Posted September 12, 2002 http://www.geocities.com/robinhawk/meanjade.txt Here's my more mischieveous face for my other Mara Jade skin. What cha think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Originally posted by mariners2001 http://www.geocities.com/robinhawk/meanjade.txt Here's my more mischieveous face for my other Mara Jade skin. What cha think? mm... good, but you should work on the eyes. Otherwise, really good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 12, 2002 Author Share Posted September 12, 2002 so make the eyes stand out more or make them smaller or both or what? again, thanks for the feedback guys. i think the final result will be worth all of this feedback (hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 14, 2002 Author Share Posted September 14, 2002 New screenie: http://www.geocities.com/robinhawk/face.txt Here's my new face....um...well I changed quite a bit, resized some parts of the face, changed hair, eyes, nose, etc. Tell me what you think. I referenced it from the drawing in the New Guide to Characters or whatever it's called. Comments???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontlikegeorge Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 your definitely getting better at skin tones, that last face does look good basically, the hair needs some texture now, itd probably be hard though with the seams and maybe, try to take out the smirk a little bit; try a tad less shading on the cheek insides, or maybe change the lip shape some once you hone your talent, are you going to go back and improve the calamari skin you were making? i liked that alot, something different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 14, 2002 Author Share Posted September 14, 2002 thanks for all the help, idontlikegeorge, i fixed the hair a bit (that screenie doesn't do justice, but I'll continue to work on that). The smirk I'm still trying to remove, but she just keeps on smiling!!! Also, could someone think of and/or contact me with a good taunt or two for her or if there's a girl out there who'd like to make a few taunts then that'd be cool too, I have no idea what to do about that. About my Ibtisam skin, I've been thinking about reskinning that and I've tried a couple times but it's just downright scary. But if I can get it right, I'll be sure to update my progress on that...I don't know when the model maker is planning on releasing it, so I may not have much time...anyway, thanks for the help..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 k, guys, i've been touching up on everything for quite a while and i think the result will be what i was shooting for originally - a good mara skin minus the new model. HOWEVER I have one more major thing I'd like to add before release: Can anyone give me some instructions on how to make a shader? for my leather mara, I want to make a leathery effect to her outfit, how would i do that? i've read various tutorials but haven't really caught on. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks. i'll post some screenies before submitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMule Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 About the skins... Are you including eyes in the head texture? The eyes are supposed to be separate objects, and get their own textures, unless the model just has a head and the modeler didn't bother to make eyeballs. All the skins I've opened up and peeked at have left the eyes out of the head texture, just had the neutral bg color there instead. Shaders... I believe there's a shader creation tool included with Raven's jk2dk. Just create a basic texture, a sort of black semi-leathery looking thing, then use the shader creator, set the base texture as the diffuse map, select the right options (which ones, I'm not totally sure) to give the right reflectiveness and so forth, then save that as <leg texture name>.shader, .shader being the default format for the editor. Include both the shader and the base texture in the pk3, and I think JK2 should load it properly. I've only read tut's on how to do this so this is my interpretation of how it works, but I dunno 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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