TheJackal Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Didn't Transformers exist during the 80s.... or was it during the early 90s. Whatever it was... that show was the BEST cartoon ever. Except today when I downloaded a few old episodes I have to say the story line just plane sucks. But that doesnt matter since they had that kick ass transformation sound and ROBOTS!. wwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I love the movie too. I have it on DVD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taarkin Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Too bad their lasers sounded like absolute dog****. But the transforming sound was cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Your new avatar, Jem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Thunderbirds. My mistake. I didn't particularly like that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Beastie Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Originally posted by TheJackal Didn't Transformers exist during the 80s.... or was it during the early 90s. Transformers (the franchise) first appeared in 1984 (though the toys had existed in Japan before that as several different toylines). The initial Transformers TV series is now called Generation 1. It continued for three or four seasons, depending on who you ask. The first two seasons took place on Earth in the 80s. Then comes TFTM (Transformers The Movie, for you non-transfans), which fast-forwards the continuity into 2005, where the third season continues. The "fourth season" is actually a pair of story arcs shoehorned onto American TV after S3, known as The Return of Optimus Prime and The Rebirth. (Rebirth is actually the start of the Headmasters series, which aired in Japan.) Years later, Hasbro/Sunbow launched Generation 2, which consisted of repaints of G1 toys, G1 cartoon episodes (with new transition effects :roleyess ), and a horribly-drawn (though very well-written) comic book. For the most part, G2 is ignored except for the comic. The true continuation of the Transformers legacy comes in what is known as the Beast Era. Two CGI-animated series (Beast Wars and Beast Machines) that take place 300 years after the end of the Great War (and the ensuing upgrade from Autobots to more energon-efficient Maximals). The Beast cartoons presented a new cast and gave them beast modes instead of vehicle modes, resulting in the TRUKK NOT MUNKY wars that continue to wrack the fandom. The Beast Era had a lukewarm reception (some [like me] loved it, while others hated it with a fervour usually only reserved for eaters of small children). The PTBs then sought to remedy the situation by releasing Robots in Disguise, a translation of Japan's Car Robots series, which only served to make things worse (coolest toys ever, but the show was even more unabashedly kiddified than G1). Currently, a new TV series is on the way. Transformers: Armada launches on the Cartoon Network this week, and may or may not reach Canada in my lifetime. Dreamwave comics is handling the Armada comics series, as well as an "ongoing" G1 series that attempts to bridge the gap between G1 S2 and the movie. Unfortunately, it was recently announced that Hasbro will now be treating Transformers as a "Final Fantasy" alternat universe series, rather than taking advantage of the continuity, background, and the mammoth fanbase. Thus, RiD, Armada, and even Dreamwave's G1 series are in different continuities that have no relation to each other. As you can see, I'm a Transfan and proud of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taarkin Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Originally posted by Flying Beastie The Beast Era had a lukewarm reception (some [like me] loved it, while others hated it with a fervour usually only reserved for eaters of small children). I would hardly call Beast Wars' reception "lukewarm". In fact, I would not call it anything less than "easily one of the best animates setries ever". Beast Machines is a diferent story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargon Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 funny, I called it really bad scripting.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierce Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 It was good scripting for an animated series that is not anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargon Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Originally posted by Assassin It was good scripting for an animated series that is not anime. you sayin' that anime has good scripting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Select few ones, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Beastie Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Transformers encompases a wide range of animé; after G1, when the series effectively went into stasis-lock in North America, Japan carried on the tradition with Masterforce, Zone, Victory Car Robots (known here as Robots in Disguise), and even two Beast Era series: Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo. While some, (like CR/RiD) are the silly kid-fare animé with wild takes, superimposed sweatdrops, and absurdity, others are more mature. Transformers: Victory in particular is hailed as one of the best series anywhere (Victory Saber actually uses a GW-style Beam Cannon to kill Deathsaurus). ^ . . . . . . . . ^ V Saber --- Deathy There's a petition up on alt.toys.transformers to have Rhino (the company responsible for the G1 DVDs) dub some of the Japanese series and release them here. Unfortunately, att is currently out of my reach, as I'm on mom's computer. I'll look for it next week when I get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargon Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue Nine Select few ones, yes. I'll take your word on that, as long as you aren't including Golgo 13: The Professional in that area... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted August 22, 2002 Author Share Posted August 22, 2002 Originally posted by Keyan Farlander Jem was my sister's favorite cartoon when she was little. She had all the dolls, too. Everytime I saw your username, this is what I thought of. Now you understand why I have such a hard time taking you seriously And why was I not informed of this other, horrific, Jem? I took that username because of my fascination on Steve Vai's series of Ibanez guitars, the "Jems". I myself own am Ibanez JEM 555 BK... At the time Jem sounded cool to me because it is a cool guitar. Now it just sounds girly and stupid and I'm starting to not like it. I also never thought of the ressemblence with the word "gem". This drives me mad. <thinks> Maybe I'll change... </thinks> And Redwing, don't make me print that so-called avatar and hunt you the rest of my life so I can make you eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyan Farlander Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Originally posted by Jem And why was I not informed of this other, horrific, Jem? I guess I just assumed you already knew. Well, now I know - you are named after a guitar. You know, I was recently thinking about buying one of the Burns Brian May Signature guitars. I love that guitar he plays, and I'd love to be able to get that sound. Of course, if I want to really get that sound, I'll have to pick up a Vox AC30 amp or two, and no doubt that will cost way more than the guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierce Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Originally posted by Jem And why was I not informed of this other, horrific, Jem? I took that username because of my fascination on Steve Vai's series of Ibanez guitars, the "Jems". I myself own am Ibanez JEM 555 BK... At the time Jem sounded cool to me because it is a cool guitar. Now it just sounds girly and stupid and I'm starting to not like it. I also never thought of the ressemblence with the word "gem". This drives me mad. <thinks> Maybe I'll change... </thinks> And Redwing, don't make me print that so-called avatar and hunt you the rest of my life so I can make you eat it. It's not everday when a dead 80's show comes back and gives you a nostalgic bite in the ass, causing you to rethink the manliness of your online nickname...What a dark age we live in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Originally posted by Keyan Farlander I guess I just assumed you already knew. Well, now I know - you are named after a guitar. You know, I was recently thinking about buying one of the Burns Brian May Signature guitars. I love that guitar he plays, and I'd love to be able to get that sound. Of course, if I want to really get that sound, I'll have to pick up a Vox AC30 amp or two, and no doubt that will cost way more than the guitar Go for it! I've never played one but they seem pretty sweet. It is a great, GREAT tone! You can always save up for the Voxes. The Line6 POD has a Vox emulation mode that's OK. I've been really thinking about breaking down and getting a POD myself lately. I did some recording with one not that long ago, and they can be pretty damn convincing. The Sans-Amps are cool too, (but they don't really pull off a Vox approximation as well.) Or I can spend at least 3 times that on the Mesa-Boogie that I REALLY want. I just can't seem to justify the expense to myself at the moment. If I were playing out more, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargon Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Originally posted by Assassin It's not everday when a dead 80's show comes back and gives you a nostalgic bite in the ass, causing you to rethink the manliness of your online nickname...What a dark age we live in... Se, I thought his name was odd at frist, then I heard something about him being French and started to make more sense.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Beastie Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Actually, I got the "Jem" (and the Holograms) connection as soon as I first saw him, but then I figured he was just making an obscure reference to what actually was a kinda cool cartoon to a five-year-old. Then I figured it might've been an obscure personal reference, like an intentional mispelling of "Jim" or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyan Farlander Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by edlib Go for it! I've never played one but they seem pretty sweet. It is a great, GREAT tone! You can always save up for the Voxes. The Line6 POD has a Vox emulation mode that's OK. I've been really thinking about breaking down and getting a POD myself lately. I did some recording with one not that long ago, and they can be pretty damn convincing. The Sans-Amps are cool too, (but they don't really pull off a Vox approximation as well.) Or I can spend at least 3 times that on the Mesa-Boogie that I REALLY want. I just can't seem to justify the expense to myself at the moment. If I were playing out more, however... Interesting. Tell me - what, in your opinion, is a fair price for a Vox AC30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Hmmm... Y'know, I'm not really sure. I've never really looked into the Vox amps the same way I have followed the Fender and Mesa amps over the years. A bit of quick research reveals that it's not going to be cheap. The Vox reissues are going for about $1500 to $2000 brand new these days, so I highly doubt you would ever find a vintage one in any kind of acceptable condition for anything around that. Your best bet would be to find a couple of years old, slightly used reissue in good shape. You might be able to get something like that for under a grand. There's one on Ebay right now where the current bid is about $930,.. although the reserve hasn't been met yet. There are alternatives though. A number of companies have come out with AC-30 clones and copies through the years. Used models of these may not be as expensive as anything with the Vox name on it. I would keep an eye out for any amp with a "class A, EL-84" circuit. Decent amps, especially vintage ones, (and guitar gear in general for that matter,) have gotten so stupid expensive over the last couple of years that I don't know how anyone does it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyan Farlander Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Just wondering - wasn't planning to get one right now anyway. Might try my hand at building an amp myself someday, actually. I'd hate to think all my electrical engineering education will be wasted on computers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by Jem At the time Jem sounded cool to me because it is a cool guitar. Now it just sounds girly and stupid and I'm starting to not like it. I also never thought of the ressemblence with the word "gem". This drives me mad. Hey, watch what you say about girly and stupid Originally posted by Jem And Redwing, don't make me print that so-called avatar and hunt you the rest of my life so I can make you eat it. Oh, Jem, that would be truly outrageous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by Keyan Farlander Might try my hand at building an amp myself someday, actually. I'd hate to think all my electrical engineering education will be wasted on computers This might interest you then. I came across it last night. I'm very curious: Do they teach you much about using vacuum tubes in electrical engineering classes these days? I hope it doesn't become a lost art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyan Farlander Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by edlib I'm very curious: Do they teach you much about using vacuum tubes in electrical engineering classes these days? I hope it doesn't become a lost art. Not much. Of course, I'm really computer engineering, so all my electrical engineering classes are focused on what I need to know to design a modern computer. There are additional classes you can take if you want to learn more about that stuff, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 I see. Cool. I know there are a few books on the subject of making tube amps as well. It's just that they sound so much better. I've met a few people who have made thier own guitars, but I've never known anyone who could make thier own amps before though. It sounds like it would be a fun project, as long as you knew what you were doing and had the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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