Madjai Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 ive almost completed his mesh, the head is just about how i want it, but of course i need input to perfect it. ive only got 1 screenshot to show right now, and its just a face shot with a lighting effect on him, i was just fooling around with rendering. and its dark and hard to see well. but dont worry ill post more tomorrow when im not so tired. http://www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/gandalf1.txt so ill need a skinner soon, any takers? also, after this id like to do a Sauron (sp?) afterwords, but im having a terrible time finding good quality pics of him, any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarViperPilot Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 "Gandalf! Gandalf! It's Gandalf! Fireworks Gandalf! Fireworks!":p Looks great! I'm sure this will make a lot of poeple happy . And a few might get mad, silly Star Wars only pureists. Thank you for useing your time and skills to bring us Gandalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradFu Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Cool! Gandalf rocks For Saruman, you might be able to acheive a model of him simply by making Gandalf's big hat removeable. They really are quite similar in shape. Old, long-bearded Jedi can be made in the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eets Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Saruman's face is alot thinner, and his beard is more well-kempt. I have a pal who is willing and ready to make Saruman taunts, and he can imitate Christopher Lee's voice PERFECTLY. Nice job, btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradFu Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Well, thin-ness of the face can probably be simulated through skinning, as can tidyness of the hair/beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frumpus Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Hey Madjai. (hm, I just noticed: A fellow Canuck! eh) Great start on Gandalf! Question:. .Are you attempting to model him after Ian McKellan? Or just "Gandalf" as you see him (and as described by Tolkien)? Your choice. Constructive Criticism: Hmm, is his hat sitting too high on his head? He needs BUSHY eyebrows! The Hobbit and LOTR describe his eyebrows as actually sticking out BEYONG the brim of his hat!! I think he looks too young. He could just be a young biker with a beard. His face needs more. .ermm "crags" (? ). Extend cheeks? Lower the bags under his eyes? Also, concerning the hair/beard, you can do AMAZING things just by using TURN EDGES function - to get more depth/texture. (Check out the pic of the she-elf I sent you.) Hair isn't like skin; not soft, flowing (especially if it has any curl to it). Hair has holes, crevices, and random tangles. ASsymetry will help alot I think (once you get to that stage). Also, the area immediately around the mustache doesn't have to mirror the lips exactly; i.e., near the corners of the lower lip, men usually grow slightly "sparser" hair than in the middle. The nose is one part of our body that never stops growing. Even though Gandalf is actually a Maia (an angelic form/missionary to Middle Earth), he's in the form of an old man. His nose can be exaggerated. (Just take a look at any old man you know ) . .. erm. . I'd have to see another (different) view of the model to add anything else. Re: pics of Sauron. . . . give me a shout on MSN. . . I've got a few great pics of Sauron (but they're mostly of his helm - it's hard to get good pics of his armour). I just don't have any place to "post" them. And BradFu?. . . Were you suggesting to have a "reskin" or "optional" version of Gandalf - who looks like Saruman?. . Good idea (CTF?) .. Or were you mistaking Saruman (the wizard) for Sauron (the Dark Lord)? Hmm, Madjai? If you wanted to get Gandalf and Saruman's likeness more similar (in the mesh), you could make "Gandalf the White", where in the movie The Two Towers at least, Gandalf's hair is white and straight, much like Saruman's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<JOTD>Jedi Hunter Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Great to see some Lord of the Rings models in the works. And great ones at that. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireHunterD Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Originally posted by Frumpus Re: pics of Sauron. . . . give me a shout on MSN. . . I've got a few great pics of Sauron (but they're mostly of his helm - it's hard to get good pics of his armour). I just don't have any place to "post" them.[/b] I've got a pretty good screen-cap of Sauron's armor if you want it Frumpus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireHunterD Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Here, This was the best screen-cap I could come up with since Sauron is always showed either at a distance or too close in the movie: http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/Armorview.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Try an image search on google. There are some pretty good pics of him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSauron Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Awww... Y'all wanna do a model after me... I'm touched But anyway. That is a good Gandalf. And I agree that the eyebrows need to be like push brooms sticking out of the head Also the beard needs to be more bushier if you want to model to be more movie like. I don't recall how his beard was described in LOTR books. All I remember that it was long. As far as the Sauron model. Try looking up paintings and drawings by Jim Howe and uhh...what's that guy's name Tim uhh. Nasbeth? and such artists. Lots of representations of Dark Lords (Melkor/Morgoth and Sauron) in a black armor. Although Sauron's helmet looked nice in LOTR movie. Just some suggestions. Keep up the work! Doin' well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSauron Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I forgot I had this! I hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithMaster01 Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Lord of the Rings is Gay!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just Kidding this ones gonna rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjai Posted September 2, 2002 Author Share Posted September 2, 2002 ok here are a couple more pics, i havent changed anything just yet, and right now his body is just mirrored on the other side so there isnt different detail yet. plus im expecting lots of detail to be in the skin. http://www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/gandalf2.txt http://www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/gandalf3.txt im not too sure how im going to do his hair, it looks really flat and plain right now but i think i can add a shader that makes "gaps" where there is mesh but no hair drawn, if you understand what im trying to say. the only thing i know about LotR is the movie, ive never read or heard much about it before the news of the trilogy being made, so the Gandalf im creating is roughly based on the movie LotR character/actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradFu Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Oops! I thought he was saying he wants to make Saruman next, that'll learn me to actually read things a little more closely Madjai, Gandalf is looking great I assume you'll be doing some alpha work on the beard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 As you can see in my avatar, Gandalf is the man, so I am looking forward to this! YOU CANNOT PASS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjai Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 yea i just dont know how to do that "alpha" stuff, so any help on that subject would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eklin Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 I have to admit, when I first checked this thread out, I was a little suspicious as to how goo of quality the model would actually be, but now that I've checked out the screenshots, I've gotta say AWESOME JOB! Originally posted by obi-wan13 YOU CANNOT PASS! That'd make a great taunt for the model, don'tcha think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberman_xc Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Please consider this next, please http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireHunterD Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Not too sure whether this one will help any of you, but I figured some of you could use it anyway: http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/ArmorView(second).jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarViperPilot Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Originally posted by VampireHunterD Here, This was the best screen-cap I could come up with since Sauron is always showed either at a distance or too close in the movie: http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/Armorview.jpg Was it just me or do you think the movie made him look fat? I know we didn't see him much but I thought the movie made him look fat. Maybe It was the angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireHunterD Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Originally posted by StarViperPilot Was it just me or do you think the movie made him look fat? I know we didn't see him much but I thought the movie made him look fat. Maybe It was the angle. You know, I thought that as well when I saw that first scene with him in Mount Doom. It almost looked like as if he had a beer gut going. lol. Anyway it's not just the angle. If you'll notice part of his armor separates from his torso on the lower part so that's why it makes him look fat right at that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireHunterD Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Here's pretty much all I can come up with that will be of any use (that is if these are of any use). Enjoy: http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/AndAnotherView.jpg http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/Anotherview.jpg http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/ArmorThirdView.jpg http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/ArmorForthView.jpg http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/ArmorFifthView.jpg By the way this new screencap program I got is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjai Posted September 3, 2002 Author Share Posted September 3, 2002 they didnt show him in the movie very well, not enough angles to really know every square-inch of his armor. i guess ill have to look for concept art or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 wow! that really looks amazingly detailed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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