<|DLS|>Darth Fett Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Who really playes single player?? I do.... well not any more heh heh heh.(multiplayer rulz) But if u do, then why the f*** do thosa storm troopers have suck crappy aim. The officers dont seem to have a problem at hittining you (orat least shooting in the area where u can deflect it ). but its not jus this hame where they suck at shooting. In the movies (Episode4-6[new hope and so on]) they also have such crappy aim, ut in the prequiles the clonetroopers(wich i think are storm trooper) they kick ass. WTF. anyways i pretty much jus wanted to start a post and i couldn't think of **** so this popped up. Lets see your opinion on this wheather or not they jus suck, or its a problem with the eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatalStrike Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Well in the movies they have no problem shooting characters that really don't matter. You know what I'm talking about those dude that get film credits like this "Rebel #17" But when they have to shoot a lead character they seem to forget how to aim. I think its just part of movie magic, because if you had storm troopers that could aim fighting for the bad guys the rebels would of gotten their asses handed to them very quickly. By the way whats up with rebels getting on a emperial ship that has thousands of troops on board but only being chased by maybe a dozen. Do you think if Osam bin Laden went onto a Aircraft carrier the captian/admiral would send 6 dudes to get him? Hells no!! I think if they made JKII more like a Metal Gear in the sense that if you didn't kill them right away you got screwed the single player would be a hell of a lot more fun. Just my opinion you are more then welcome to prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadDoofer Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 The stormies aren't all that bad on Jedi Master, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Its taht the guns are innactuarte, right? When we shoot um, its also hard to hit people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Buddy, spawn a trooper and a rebel soldier. Use notarget. See their aim......... PURE ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psionic Jedi Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 Originally posted by ZBomber Its taht the guns are innactuarte, right? When we shoot um, its also hard to hit people. Yeah the Imp Officers and Workers are using blaster pistols similar to the Bryar Pistol, so they are alot more accurate than the E11. Maybe cause those huge helmets limit trooper vision o.O Anyways you don't need super aim to fire a Flechette, as those high troopers do in Bespin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 Sure, the troopers aren't very smart, but I think it has more to do with the guns they use. Ever try to use one of those Blaster Rifles in SP? Utter crap for aim and damage against troopers. Now check out the one in MP.... now there's a decent weapon. Go figure! According to the EU, Stormtroopers have elite training (and/or are specially bred clones) so I doubt its a genetic problem. Their helmets are supposed to have computer systems and HUDs so that shouldn't be it either. I guess for gameplay purposes, the Raven devs felt that making the ST Rifle crappier for SP would make it more challenging and movie-like (I guess). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Bakker Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 I've noticed that on the Tantive IV the stormtroopers shot with much higher accuracy. Darth Vader was with them then. Perhaps they decided to aim otherwise Vader would Force-grip them to death. Well, either that or they normally slack-off but couldn't because the boss was there... "Hey! You there!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<|DLS|>Darth Fett Posted September 7, 2002 Author Share Posted September 7, 2002 WTF?? the blasters that stormtroopers use suck?!? What are u talkin aboot (CANADIAN heh heh heh)! Those rifles are all i used when i didnt have the saber! Except for long shots cuz then it sucked. I would enter a room with tons of Storm Troopers and jus shot them all in the head one shot. Enter a roon with 10 storm troopers and fire like maybe 13 shots (i missed... damn alchool.) ya so i think its cuz they were engineered wrong i say well wateva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenturiOn Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 lol im so crap in single player im only in the mine eheh when you go out of a control room and 20 stormies run in killed 18 of them while shooting the one in front that i thought was the last,the other stormtrooper ran up behind and shot me in te back ...hmmm grrr next time they wont be so lucky!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<|DLS|>Darth Fett Posted September 7, 2002 Author Share Posted September 7, 2002 hmmm at that part jus leave trip mines at the entrance where they get out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 1) In ANH the stormies on the Death Star miss everybody because they were under orders to let everyone escape. 2) In ESB the stormies were also supposed to let Luke's friends escape, so they could save him. 3) In RotJ the stormies were overconfident and got their asses kicked by teddy bears (and a stolen AT-ST, but still) Result: Raven decides to make stormtrooper AI crap because "stormtroopers miss in the movies". Is there much logic to that? NO. But it doesn't matter, because Raven thought it would be cool (just like how they decided sabers shouldn't cast shadows). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vitruvio Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 The reason why storm troopers and most antagonists can't hit squat with a blaster is because of one simple movie rule: "Bad guys have bad aim." No matter how many storm troopers or rotten bounty hunters shoot one guy, even at point blank range, they'll miss unless the director or the story calls for a hit. A great example of "Bad guys have bad aim" is the scene in Special Edition: A New Hope where Greedo confronts Han Solo in the cantina and tries to shoot him in the head. Greedo missed a few inches from Solo's head at point blank range! How is that really possible? Well, either Han Solo has Jedi reflexes or Greedo just plain sucks with a blaster. I guess Solo got lucky! So you see "Bad guys have bad aim" does apply to this situation unless you count in the exception like Rebel soldiers because those guys were just made to die. Another good example would be the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi! How many of those little guys died in the battle compared to storm troopers? Not many, because storm troopers had bad aim especially in the hover bike scenes with the scout troopers! So, anyway I hope the "Bad guys have bad aim" movie rule came in handy in explaining this subject. -Vitruvio "What would I do without SHOWCASE: Television without boarders?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vicious Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 Simple. Star Wars: ANH Luke - "I can't see a thing in this helmet!" Star Wars: Jedi Outcast Disgruntled_stormtrooper_00 - "How about you get into this armor and try to see outta this damn helmet!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Spy Posted September 8, 2002 Share Posted September 8, 2002 Originally posted by FatalStrike By the way whats up with rebels getting on a emperial ship that has thousands of troops on board but only being chased by maybe a dozen. Do you think if Osam bin Laden went onto a Aircraft carrier the captian/admiral would send 6 dudes to get him? Hells no!! I think if they made JKII more like a Metal Gear in the sense that if you didn't kill them right away you got screwed the single player would be a hell of a lot more fun. Just my opinion you are more then welcome to prove me wrong. Well that is a good idea however i think sp jk2 is fun because its very cinematic - u can sneak past the storm troopers but that just wouldnt be very much fun and how much fun would the starwars films be if they didnt have a laser battle or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<|DLS|>Darth Fett Posted September 8, 2002 Author Share Posted September 8, 2002 I find that in the new star wars film (the prequles) they dont have much space shootin and laser fights. Whats up with that? It is called STAR WARS aint it. Although there are more lightsaber fights that are completly of the wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKR_LT_DODGE Posted September 8, 2002 Share Posted September 8, 2002 i know they have crappy aim but its fun killing at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deetox187 Posted September 8, 2002 Share Posted September 8, 2002 Whats really funny is in Ep4 when Obi-Wan and Luke find the wrecked Sandcrawler Obi-Wan says "only imperial stormtoopers could be so precise" ya right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<|DLS|>Darth Fett Posted September 8, 2002 Author Share Posted September 8, 2002 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA. Yaknow wat, you're absolutly right! maheheheheh Percise HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<|DLS|>Darth Fett Posted September 10, 2002 Author Share Posted September 10, 2002 Alot of topics are being moved i thought, Shouldn't this be one?? Im not askin but its jus that u guys r so strickt its funny that u havent already heh heh heh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 it started off as a topic about jkii guns. it changed, its geting swamped. I just frankly had not read it, and did not know to move it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<|DLS|>Darth Fett Posted September 10, 2002 Author Share Posted September 10, 2002 WATEVER!......... realy???? About jkii guns??? Thats not what i intended! It was if they were defects or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissamies Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Its true that Stormtroopers are considered to be elite troops according to EU. However, I suspect that in this case 'elite' means that they are supposed to be fanatically loyal and fearless. Most of their training could actually be indoctrination. Just being a no life SW apologist here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<JOTD>Jedi Hunter Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Think about it though. Most Stormtroopers weren't exactly wanting to just jump up and say hey me I wanna be a storm trooper. The Empire forced alot of the stormies into action. So maybe the stormtroopers wanted the rebels to win so they could be free. Just a though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 its both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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