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Originally posted by Purple_Tentacle

 

its not that crazy, sidious doesn't use a lightsaber. maul used one so he could fight the jedi. and we havent seen ANY other sith that didn't learn to use a saber when they were a jedi.

 

"they all use sabers" who are they, you mean maul ? remember that darth and dooku were once jedi.

 

where are you getting this " The Sith come from a group that broke off from the Jedi " ?

 

the only reference i can think of is when Qui-gon says " it was heavily trained in the Jedi arts " or something to that effect. where else is it talked about the sith being a group that broke off from the Jedi ?

 

From the horses mouth. When George Lucas was doing hype for the 1st movie(TPM) he spoke about the Sith.

 

He said the Sith were ex-Jedi who wanted the Jedi to look into the Dark side and it's power. When the other Jedi woudn't go along with it they formed there own group. The Sith were from some planet that these Dark Jedi conquered.

 

He also said(which is my favorite part) that there are always only 2 Sith because they are so evil that everyone of them wants to lead and that they end up killing each other off. If you only have a master and an apprentice then the apprentice needs the master to train him so he won't try to kill him.

 

Part of Sith training, just like part of Jedi training involves lightsabers.

 

So when you say where have I heard that they use lightsabers, I ask you where have you heard they don't?

 

If you don't believe me check out this at the official site.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thesith/index.html

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Originally posted by Hannibal

 

So when you say where have I heard that they use lightsabers, I ask you where have you heard they don't?

 

If you don't believe me check out this at the official site.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thesith/index.html

 

good argument and that link proves you to be correct abut the sith, even though it doesn't prove that Sidious has ever ignited a lightsaber in his life. do you have any info that ?

 

i like the idea of the sith once being a part of the jedi thats seems to tie in quite nicely with the movies.

 

you asked me where i get my starwars information, the answer is from the movies, thats all i have to refer to.

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Originally posted by Purple_Tentacle

 

you asked me where i get my starwars information, the answer is from the movies, thats all i have to refer to.

 

Yeah unfortunately there isn't to much in detail to actually read about the history of the Jedi and Sith. Especially since George Lucas doesn't use the EU stuff.

 

I'm sure at one time Sidious used a saber. But I'd have to agree that he probably doesn't use need to use one anymore.

 

I remember reading profiles of SW characters where it had their affiliation and the weapons they used(ex. Obi-Wan, Jedi Apprentice, lightsaber).

For Sidious it said his weapon was Darth Maul.;)

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Of course, Sidious could be just like Yoda... or Dooku. All three of them apparently choose to fight with Force energy before resorting to lightsabers. Dooku didn't draw his saber until he realized that Obi-wan would simply cancel out the Force lighting with his own saber. Then when Dooku and Yoda faced off, they tossed bolts back and forth a few times before deciding to use sabers. Sidious could be the same way. After all, the only time we've seen him fight was using Force lightning on Luke, and Luke had tossed away his saber so he couldn't block it. If Luke had blocked the lightning like Obi-wan had, maybe a saber battle would have ensued...

 

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Also, think about it: all the old, seemingly weak characters proved everybody wrong. Yoda, Dooku, the Emperor, Obi-Wan (Episode IV) have each had comments like "Where did you dig up that old fossil?" made against them, and each proved us wrong by using strength, skill or lightsabers to fight the battle in hand. I think Darth Sidious could be the same, and surprise everybody by using the Force and a lightsaber.

 

You go for it, Sidious!

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expect the unexpected. i can picture palpatine being a fabolous fighter. come on check out darth maul and he was the aprrentice. wouldn't you think that palp would be much more quicker and agile.

 

also i want to see more hand to hand combat added to the lightsaber duels. i think it brings more excitement. you only get hit ones with a light saber. it's either you're badly injured or dead. i would like to see more scrapes and bruises during the fight. few jabs and roundhouse kicks in the face.

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The only reason Darth Sidious could manage to walk is because of his heavy, long robe. I bet anything that under there is something similar to what Count Dooku wears beneath his cape. And look how Dooku mopped the floor with two powerful Jedi Knights before holding his own against the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy!

 

:holosid::saberr:

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Keiran Halcyon, fair point, but Palpatine will not avoid using a lightsaber just because he has an apprentice. Remember, Qui-Gon Jinn had Obi-Wan Kenobi, but he still fought Darth Maul one-on-one for a long part of their duel, plus fended the dark lord off in the Tatooine desert. And take Yoda: the most poowerful and senior Jedi in the galaxy, yet he still joins in the fight against Count Dooku. Just because master's have apprentices does not rule them out from all combat!

 

And I do agree with Darth Kaan: he does not need a lightsaber (since he is the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy... probably the most powerful being in the galaxy, in fact), but everyone should have a stab at the duelling in Star Wars. I never thought Yoda in a lightsaber duel was possible, but the latest film proved me wrong, so the path is wide open for Sidious/Palpatine!

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personally if palp fights he will probably only be toying with anakin, showing the darkside's power. He cannot fight a major character cuz then one of them would probably have to die.

palp will probably only use lightning, and only use it to torture anakin and beat some stupid jedi who works his way up to fight him (like that jedi who went at dooku and got shot).

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I think Darth Sidious will either kill Mace Windu or duel with Obi-Wan before wounding the Jedi. Then Obi-Wan will escape when Sidious goes looking for Anakin (this will happen after Obi-Wan fights Aankin).

 

Thinking about it, what would happen if Anakin fell into one of those large pots of molten metal inside the Geonosian Droid Factory, where Padme was trapped in Episode II? Could Anakin versus Obi-Wan take place in the Droid Factory?

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Would that be EU? I don't think George Lucas would use EU in the final Star Wars episode, do you?

 

I'm split between the melting pit on Naboo or the droid factory on Geonosis. What does everyone else think about this? Will Lucas create a new planet, or will he stick with what we have at the moment?

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Originally posted by Purple_Tentacle

i think Naboo is gunna get MESSED up, maybe not destroyed but close to it. ever wonder why its not talked about from ep.3 onwards eh? eh? its GONE thats why. muahahha

 

It isn't used because it doesn't need to be used. The only reason Naboo was the main setting of Episode 1 was because of Padmé. Luke, in his fight against the Empire and Vader, has no reason to travel to the unimportant and out of the way Naboo system. It just isn't logical.

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Originally posted by PowerBroker

 

It isn't used because it doesn't need to be used. The only reason Naboo was the main setting of Episode 1 was because of Padmé. Luke, in his fight against the Empire and Vader, has no reason to travel to the unimportant and out of the way Naboo system. It just isn't logical.

 

Only ep3 will tell us. Maybe Naboo got destroyed by Vader/Anakin

for some reason.

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