hansmoleman Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Well at this point its not really in progress. I've looked around the net, gatherd some info and am drawing concept sketches to kind of get a feel for what the model is gonna look like. I'll post those here asap. In the mean time I could still use good pics so if you know of any post them here. I'm really hoping to get at least 2 profile and 1 back shots before I can finalize my sketches. Getting it ingame is gonna be a problem since he doesnt run but we'll look at that later. As always I'd apreciate any advise comments. If all goes well this model should be funny at least and if something goes horribly wrong well I'll blame it on the JK2 engine. l8rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalnGipanji Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Hahaha.... What, do you think you're some kind of Jedi waving your hand like that? That is a great model idea! I think Watto is one of the better, more underrated characters. About the running... I personally thought the Hutt model was probably about the best animated that it could have been, given the Raven skeleton, but I still didn't like it. I'm not sure how to attach models to the skeleton, but this doesn't seem like it should be too dificult... if anything, you can have his real legs as part of the torso, and have a placeholder to fill out the humanoid legs and turn off those surfaces in the surf file. The only problem I see is getting wing movement... not even sure if you can do that. I hope you can figure out a way to get this guy in-game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eklin Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Yeah, I doubt you'd be able to make the wings look like they're moving unless you. A. make an animated shader/image B. make an entirely new skeleton. Not sure if it's possible, but it probably wouldn't be a good idea anyways, since it would alter the skeleton for all other models as well. That's the trouble with the JK2 engine. You can only have one skeleton for all characters. If they make a JK3, they should definitely use a new engine (preferably one of their own). The newer engines are much more customizable than the old Q3 engine, although they also tend to be harder to create mods for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMan Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Idea for animating the wings. Use two sets of planar wings that you will have the wing image spread over with it's alpha. Then in the shader have it fade in/out using a square output at a fast rate for both sets, then have the other set be offset enough so that they alternate between visibility states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Clod Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Just what I was going to suggest Kman. You might have to make Watto a little larger than he is in the movies. Remember that his arms will need to stretch right down to the lightsaber, so your body should be larger in order to compensate for the long arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmoleman Posted September 24, 2002 Author Share Posted September 24, 2002 hmm ill try what kman said hopefully itll look fine. If only we could just make custom animations I could do what I did for some models in half life. one thing that really pisses me off though is that theres only pictures of watto from the front!! anyone seen any OTHER part of this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamegrape Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I'm not sure how you could do it. Hmmmmmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_Nova Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Sounds cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araegon Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 when ya need the sound, e-mail me (jedi2oo1@yahoo.com)and i'll get sum for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Snape Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 yo dude i wanted some1 to do this. If you can do this, u will be a great modeler. You will be up there with ppl like Major clod, toonces, and tercero. Good luck if it is possible to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmoleman Posted September 24, 2002 Author Share Posted September 24, 2002 mmm recognision mmmmm.... maturity slipping away.... /me giggles and runs around room dancing happily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khier Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Here are a bunch of watto pics http://www.geocities.com/doubleofive/pics2.htm the third pic down has a pretty good shot of the back and there are some side profiles too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmoleman Posted September 25, 2002 Author Share Posted September 25, 2002 sweet pics Big b thatll help a lot now i just gotta hound someone at school to scan my reference pics so i can start modeling since i dont wanna get a scanner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiThLoRd><1000 Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Madjai pulled off a cool trick with the Maw making it look like it's floating so you should be able to make him look like he is "flying" I wonder if you can take away the footstep sounds and just hear his wings flapping. That would be kickin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmoleman Posted October 3, 2002 Author Share Posted October 3, 2002 hi all, im not dead And despite what most of you may think i have done some work on the watto model. go to my website to check it out: http://hansmoleman.cjb.net So far i havent thought about how to get it ingame, too much thinking, too soon . So tell me shat you think of the pics and ill do my best to handly the "constructive" criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 Originally posted by hansmoleman hi all, im not dead And despite what most of you may think i have done some work on the watto model. go to my website to check it out: http://hansmoleman.cjb.net So far i havent thought about how to get it ingame, too much thinking, too soon . So tell me shat you think of the pics and ill do my best to handly the "constructive" criticism it looks good so far. don't forget to model those extra wings so you can use a shader to give the illusion of beating wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Snape Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 yo dude on ur site can u make that simpson character into a pk3 file so we can use it in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmoleman Posted October 3, 2002 Author Share Posted October 3, 2002 yo dude on ur site can u make that simpson character into a pk3 file so we can use it in the game I guess i could if you really want me to, i dont really feel like it, too lazy i am. it looks good so far. don't forget to model those extra wings so you can use a shader to give the illusion of beating wings. To tell the truth im not all 100% sure as to how to what kman said. To me is sounds like something inbetween something that could work and just a bunch of random words on the monitor. So when i get there ill need someone to "translate" what he said into words that I can understand, no offence kman, im just still a n00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmoleman Posted October 4, 2002 Author Share Posted October 4, 2002 small update. I got the head together based on an old model some guy told me about, posted some new screens on my site, tell me what you think here the link (again) if yer still not with it http://hansmoleman.cjb.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_101 Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 that looks great!!! altho the body looks too big to the head but that might just be me FATTEH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Snape Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 he looks way to fat. he kinda looks like a chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiThLoRd><1000 Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 He is way to chunky. Here is a ref. pic: http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/multimedia/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Images/Episode_1/Characters/Watto&image=watto-10.jpg&img=16&tt= http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/multimedia/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Images/Episode_1/Characters/Watto&image=watto-08.jpg&img=16&tt= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eets Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 The body's wrong, but the face is ALL right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Snape Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Originally posted by Eets The body's wrong, but the face is ALL right! exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frendon Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 yup he looks to fat, and the head looks too small for the body, remeber he is not really fat he just has a little rounded belly, the face is looking good, keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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