obi Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Evolution Shmevolution. If anything, we are devolving. I mean look at us, we start wars with each other, trying to kill each other for our own benefit. Propaganda running rampage, panic and stress in governments world-wide, it's all crazy. The should name this planet "Crazy" instead of Earth. Humans think that just because they have technology, that means that they are something. They sit back and watch their VCR's, while it blinks 12:00 in silent mockery of their "achievements."They created a machine to do the work of a man, while they sit back and count their profits, not even caring there are starving kids in one of those third world countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Originally posted by obi-wan13 Evolution Shmevolution. If anything, we are devolving. I mean look at us, we start wars with each other, trying to kill each other for our own benefit. Propaganda running rampage, panic and stress in governments world-wide, it's all crazy. The should name this planet "Crazy" instead of Earth. Humans think that just because they have technology, that means that they are something. They sit back and watch their VCR's, while it blinks 12:00 in silent mockery of their "achievements."They created a machine to do the work of a man, while they sit back and count their profits, not even caring there are starving kids in one of those third world countries. Ooooh.... flaming the entire planet - I like it. I like it a lot I only have one thing to say: If it wasn't for a few brave scientists, who tried to look at how the world really works, we'd die of old age when we were 40. Not funny. Technology and science is indifferent. They don't care how they're used, and they certainly don't corrupt people's mindsets. They're tools, not the job itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pnut_Man Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Originally posted by Flanders Most probably from a planet.... And I think 'god' exists, [i dont want to upset any religions] If he really did exist, the Earth wouldnt be this mess right now. Sorry, shouldn't really be quoting this, just thought i might as well share my opinion. Like some people have said before, we cannot understand God. In his 'dimension' things are not created or destroyed. He was always there; that's something WE HUMANS CANNOT GRASP. About the Earth being "messed up". In my eyes, we're simply a little creation of God, no one knows what he thinks of our well being, he might have given us our fate to control. And I guess i'll just point this out. I know many people believe the bible is "nonsense", but they usually only know of the genesis stories. You have to understand, when the bible was written people were..hmm..barbaric? Humans would have never been able to accept the fact that they evolved from apes. What if a being told a person about the true creation of humans? There is a high possibly that he barely understood/accepted any of it. That's my "two cents" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Originally posted by Pnut_Master You have to understand, when the bible was written people were..hmm..barbaric? Humans would have never been able to accept the fact that they evolved from apes. What if a being told a person about the true creation of humans? There is a high possibly that he barely understand/accepted any of it. So you're saying the Bible is not to be taken literally? That some of the stories told in it are merely metaphors? Cool, I like that. It will hopefully mean that the Genesis is only a metaphor for what really happened - we evolved. That God sparked the big bang, and we can all stop worrying about telling creationists how the world really works. I like your theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Originally posted by Cjais Ooooh.... flaming the entire planet - I like it. I like it a lot I only have one thing to say: If it wasn't for a few brave scientists, who tried to look at how the world really works, we'd die of old age when we were 40. Not funny. Technology and science is indifferent. They don't care how they're used, and they certainly don't corrupt people's mindsets. They're tools, not the job itself. Heh, sorry bout that, I wasn't in the greatest of moods when I was posting earlier. But you are correct when you say Science is different from technology. It's all on how people look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 I dont know or have any idea how the first human was born. But i have a question for Flanders, you have been pondering some weird questions lately, why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 I'll go with obi, I'm a catholic and Believe that God created us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Agen, did you choose to be Catholic, or were you raised from childhood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 I was Raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 And I was raised in Christianity. But it makes no nevermind. You were raised to think that Hitler was a bad man. He was, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Good way to put it Obi. Was looking for a way to say it didn't make a difference but couldn't think up anything so i told it with 3 words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Knight Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 I am also Catholic, i have been raised catholic. Bu i do not believe god created us. I don't mean to affend any one i just can not think that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 Originally posted by obi-wan13 And I was raised in Christianity. But it makes no nevermind. You were raised to think that Hitler was a bad man. He was, no? Yes, he was. All evidence points to that. You can clearly test if his actions was good or bad. It matters not if he himself was a good person - actions are what dictates history. But science doesn't need belief. It doesn't require you to be raised in the name of it. Science is not some grand purpose, it is a tool for describing the world. And so far, it has worked perfectly fine. Whenever there's something newly discovered that doesn't fit the old models, they're changed. This means you won't ever have a division/fraction between scientists - they always conform to the smartest model available. Once you realize that there is no absolute truth, you'll also see that science is the currently least false way of describing that non-truth. Which is why we should stick to it alone. @Darth Knight: So you don't believe God created man, even though you're Catholic? Doesn't that go against several fundamental dogmas in the Christian church? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 I think the important part of Catholicism, or any other religion, Islam, jeudaism, etc, is the values and ethics it conveys. Rather than sticking pedantically to every literal word of the doctrine. However, many who fanatically regurgatate every single word of their respective holy books does not abide by the deeper morals and values. I think that many of the tales, like pnut said, though might well have occured historically, are collected as a metaphorical platform to deliver a more universal meaning: of morals, ethics, and other values that make human coherence a happy one. There are many i feel that just take each work from the bible or karam too literally. Evolution Shmevolution. If anything, we are devolving. I mean look at us, we start wars with each other, trying to kill each other for our own benefit. Propaganda running rampage, panic and stress in governments world-wide, it's all crazy. The should name this planet "Crazy" instead of Earth. Humans think that just because they have technology, that means that they are something. They sit back and watch their VCR's, while it blinks 12:00 in silent mockery of their "achievements."They created a machine to do the work of a man, while they sit back and count their profits, not even caring there are starving kids in one of those third world countries. Evolution has nothing to do with society, culture, or ethnicity advancement, it is how organisms adapt to different habitat environments to survive. Advancement of civilization is an independent process. Thinking about it, the destructivity of humans have insured our temporary survival and in long term, domination of this planet, which is in part, what evolution tried to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRtY $oUtH™ Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 Let's keep it simple shall we? Adam had sex with Eve and that's your answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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