Ne0Max Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 If there are any socialists here, or anyone familliar with socialist philosophy, can you help me out? I've been doing some reading of the Socialist Worker. There's a section that tells what they're about, but it mentions alot of militaristic action, and a full-blown revolution which needs to commense in order to remedy alot of the nation's problems. This means overthrowing the current system based on capitalism. But, does this mean forcefully taking over Washington? If so, once the government has been abolished, won't there be a period of chaos until the new system is established? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylilin Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 won't there be a period of chaos until the new system is established? Most likely, which is why a new government would probably be impossible to create, unless the people were behind it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalXWing Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Ah yes, a Socialist economy, better known as the economic system under which everyone is poor and the government controls all the land. That's why the Soviet Union collapsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0Max Posted January 16, 2003 Author Share Posted January 16, 2003 Originally posted by SuicidalXWing Ah yes, a Socialist economy, better known as the economic system under which everyone is poor and the government controls all the land. That's why the Soviet Union collapsed. Well, i thought they were communist. Anyways, the way I understand it, Socialism involves taking mass amounts of wealth, and re-distributing it. I'm not sure how that happens, but... like everything else, it sounds good on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 And like most things that sound good on paper it can NEVER work properly in practice. Capitalism is the only economic theory that takes natural human greed and corruption into consideration, and then makes it pretty much the essential backbone of the theory, which is why it is the only one that can ever be successful putting it in real-world practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalXWing Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Communism was the governmental part, it was based on a Socialist economy, they go hand and hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0Max Posted January 17, 2003 Author Share Posted January 17, 2003 so... there would be a communist government if the Socialists had their way? ...politics:( ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalXWing Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Originally posted by edlib And like most things that sound good on paper it can NEVER work properly in practice. Capitalism is the only economic theory that takes natural human greed and corruption into consideration, and then makes it pretty much the essential backbone of the theory, which is why it is the only one that can ever be successful putting it in real-world practice. Exactly what he said. Socialism sounds like a great idea, but it can never work. It goes against human nature, bluntly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 I was once a Communist. Give up now. Quit while you're ahead. That way you won't feel stupid about it later. I'm a Capitalistic Fascist Authoritarian now. It's way more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalXWing Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Capitalistic Fascist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0Max Posted January 17, 2003 Author Share Posted January 17, 2003 Originally posted by SuicidalXWing Capitalistic Fascist? And how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Cracken Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Expalin Nute, i'd be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deac Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Communism can't work because it was based on life 100 years back. Socialism can still work, just people in power feel they would profit more by not. The world is run by the rich. I don't see why Americans distrust Communists so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Originally posted by Deac I don't see why Americans distrust Communists so much. the part where they said we had the choice between conversion or death and the part where they said "we will bury you" (apparently conversion was no longer an option). Capitalism and Fascism don't conflict. You see, the one is economy (Capitalism) and the other isn't (Fascist). They don't counteract each other, so you can be both at once. You basically are an intense nationalist warmonger with support of the free market. Just because Fascism tends to be dictatorial, it doesn't mean capitalism can't be the method of economic control under a Fascist system. Actually, it would be a lot like Victorian-era Britian, but with more conquering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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