Aerothorn Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Everyone says they'll use a double bladed lightsaber or two lightsabers. WHAT? I mean 1 out of millions of Jedi use those styles, that just not right- if they were so much better they would be more widely used. There will almost certainly be penalties for using them, like dual wielding in D&D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 this is back in the time of the sith wars and darth bane, so two bladed sabers WERE widely used, look at exar kun. also, im sure it will be very hard to construct one, so the benifits will outweigh the negatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 If there are penalties......well, I don't care, I'll still have my dual sabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerothorn Posted January 29, 2003 Author Share Posted January 29, 2003 No, they weren't widely used. Yes, Exar Kun used one, that is a single guy. There is a reason everyone didn't run around with 2 swords or double bladed swords in the middle ages. And besides, it TOTALLY goes against canon if everyone uses those sabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Originally posted by Enjoi9187 this is back in the time of the sith wars and darth bane, so two bladed sabers WERE widely used, look at exar kun. also, im sure it will be very hard to construct one, so the benifits will outweigh the negatives. Darth Bane comes thousands of years after the "death" of Kun. There were several Sith Wars. First with Naga Sadow, next was the one with Kun. And then there was another, the one with Bane... There are definately penalties, but they may have advantages over other styles depending on the opponents level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 which sith war does this take place in? becasue there were some when the sith was more of a "magic", and then there was the war when all the sith killed each other, and bane survived. im guessing this is around the time of bane's war, becasue they are using lightsabers instead of magic swords. but u have to agree that out of the thousands of sith that there were, some of them had double bladed lightsabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 No, this is the middle one. Kun's. The magic sword thing must be Naga Sadow's. The Great Schism, it is called. Rather weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 so then it is possible that he could be in connections with kun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrift Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 I agree with you to be honest Aerothorn. I much prefer the idea that Darth Maul's weapon was extremley rare as was Anakin's skill-level in being capable of wielding two sabres (mind you from memory in AOTC you do see another Jedi in the background swinging two around - though he wasn't exactly in a duel with a Sith so...). I'm hoping that in the game, these two alternate styles will be very rare and that we have only seen them a lot because they make for the most impressive screenshots that the designers can flaunt. Bastilla certainly seems handy with a duel-bladed weapon, and she is meant to be exceptionally talented, so it will maybe all fit in together in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Glorfindel Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 We have to remember people that the game is an RPG, not an FPS or a 3PS, you make the game to you specifications, and u customize the character to your custimization, when making customization you must go the process of making the customization, it is not easy some times, some times though it is extremely easy, and after making the customization u must learn the use of the customization. I shall say it again, u make the customization, and u have to learn the use of the customization hence making it a better game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 And do realise that probably not all the other Jedi in the game will wield dual sabers or a dual-bladed saber. Shan seems to be extremely skilled with it, and Bindo's a master so I could see him wearing it. Also realise that you'll be playing the hero/villain of this era... what do these characters often do? Go against the norm, and are better skilled than the average fighter in those eras. Sure, there might be other versions of characters wielding dual blades, but OUR characters will be especially good. Why? We're playing the main role of the story. There are probably about, say, 1 out of a thousand Jedi who can wield these special weapons, and we just happen to be part of that entirely small group. Of course, I personally am hoping that Malak will only wield a single red blade... I dunno, it would just rock to see the villain be capable of warding off each attack with just a single blade, whilst I desperatley try to hit him with one my blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 Originally posted by Thrift I much prefer the idea that Darth Maul's weapon was extremley rare as was Anakin's skill-level in being capable of wielding two sabres (mind you from memory in AOTC you do see another Jedi in the background swinging two around - though he wasn't exactly in a duel with a Sith so...). I think Anakin's skill with 2 sabres was rare because he wasn't trained to fight with 2 sabres at all and was still able to do it quite well. A jedi is allowed to build his/her own sabre. Im sure the first saber a padawan builds is a regular saber. But when they advance it's up to them to decide what type of saber they want to specialize in. Now for movies sake Jedi didn't use double edged sabers. For this game though we should see it as new facts being created for this universe. REmember all this was approved by LucasARts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 Originally posted by Burrie And do realise that probably not all the other Jedi in the game will wield dual sabers or a dual-bladed saber. Shan seems to be extremely skilled with it, and Bindo's a master so I could see him wearing it. Also realise that you'll be playing the hero/villain of this era... what do these characters often do? Go against the norm, and are better skilled than the average fighter in those eras. Sure, there might be other versions of characters wielding dual blades, but OUR characters will be especially good. Why? We're playing the main role of the story. There are probably about, say, 1 out of a thousand Jedi who can wield these special weapons, and we just happen to be part of that entirely small group. Posted by Hannibal A jedi is allowed to build his/her own sabre. Im sure the first saber a padawan builds is a regular saber. But when they advance it's up to them to decide what type of saber they want to specialize in. Now for movies sake Jedi didn't use double edged sabers. For this game though we should see it as new facts being created for this universe. REmember all this was approved by LucasArts. I agree with both of you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtuousMetal Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 I have heard that these two bladed light sabers were used for training purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtali Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 In the end it comes down to preference one may say the double bladed is cool but is limited to the type of strikes, but you can hit with both ends. One may not want to sacrifice mobility for it. Two sabers you will likely have to attack in a cordinated pattern, and hope that the enemy doesn't over power you since you only have one hand each saber if it comes to that. so it really comesdown to preference whoever sees those as an advantage and some who can exploit it will be rare. Otherwise in the end it just becomes a gimmick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Qel-Droma Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 yust to correct something here, after what i have read of star wars expanded universe two lightsabers were fairly comon at the time of the game, but a twobladed lightsaber was not that common since Exar kun was the first to use one, about 40 to 50 years earlier. but i agree that there should be some penalties to having two sabers or a two sided saber. a two sided saber should have the penalties of a staff weapon. two sabers i would guess like the penalties of fighting with 2 weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 perhaps if you have two sabers it will be possible for the opponent to knock them out of your hand or at least knock them out of the way, leaving you vulnerable. Logically, it would be harder to block a heavy hit using one hand holding a saber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_V2.1 Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 I don't know about the penalty given for dual weilding is in the PnP StarWars rules(and of course the game) but from memory (from BG2) there is a BIG penalty for dual weilding if u haven't spent some of that hard earned experience on that style, I think it is a penalty of 8 to the offhand and 4 to the main hand if u are not proficient with it. But u do get increased attack speed and any of the special features, (if they have any) of both weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_One Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 They said you would get penalties for dual wielding and wielding double-edged sabers. It has it's advantages and disadvanteges. And if you don't like it then don't make one and just use the normal lightsaber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swat Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 who's that "They"?, provide link 2 that info pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtali Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 I jst stated that from what ive observed in the movies, the advantage is obvious but more so the dissadvantages as brought only a true master that can exploit its advantages and limit its disadvantagessss will have success. I'll probably use one blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Originally posted by Naphtali I'll probably use one blade You say that now. But, when all the kids in your neighborhood are using two and double bladed and are laughing at you for using one. You'll cave in to the peer pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Originally posted by Hannibal You say that now. But, when all the kids in your neighborhood are using two and double bladed and are laughing at you for using one. You'll cave in to the peer pressure. Exactly.....I can't wait to use two sabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Oh ja, two sabers is the way to go... don't listen to those double-bladed weenies or single-blade wannabees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yozorama Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Well... after all there is a reason for why Jedi Masters like Yoda and Mace Windu prefers a single-bladed lightsaber. Not real sure how the system works but shouldn't two lightsabers give you a bonus in reflecting shots and possibly flexibility (after all you can get in hits more often) though penalty in lightsabre dueling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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