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Originally posted by Nute Gunray

Please refrain from being stupid in the future.

 

Firstly, anyone that bought a del sol in the first place is stupid but don't call all Honda owners stupid. The Accord is one of the best cars out there right now, by a long shot.

Firstly, did I insult their intelligence, or is that something that you assumed? I insulted their tastes, yes. But never once did I mention anything at all about intelligence. I merely implied that the A-wing Del Sol fits the general taste of the majority of Honda owners. I couldn't even count the number of Hondas I see driving around with some massive whale-fin of a rickety, out of place spoiler, or mismatched colors of doors, front bumpers, rear bumpers, and other ground effects.

Originally posted by Nute Gunray

Secondly, "sick?" I wish everyone that used that particular piece of slang, along with "tight," would be rounded up and executed in death camps.

As long as we're rounding the masses up for the death camps why don't we talk a bit more about stupidity first beacause:

Originally posted by Nute Gunray

Thirdly, do they even make any of those cars anymore? I think that might, MIGHT speak of their quality in recent years, particularly the Camaro. And perhaps you've never seen what rednecks have done to those cars. Flames on a brown firebird is an atrocity that doesn't even begin to compare to the A-wing del sol.

Of course they still make those cars, where have you been? Get your facts straight before you go berating me. Quality? I think the number of horsepower and torque to the rear wheel these cars get speak volumes. Granted, there's better out there like the Dodge Viper, Chevy Corvette, or even the ultra rare and nice such as the Ferarri or Lamborghini. But for your common and affordable car on the street, the Mustang, Camaro, and Firebird are running some damn good stats. And yes, I've seen the rare bastard of the bunch with these vehicles as well. But the ratio of bastardized Hondas I've seen on the road with my own eyes with mismatched crap and heinously large and out of place spoilers, these far outwiegh the number of Mustangs, Camaros, and Firebirds that idiots have taken and just completely ruined.

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Originally posted by Elegy

a big steaming pot of lunacy

 

Thanks for putting every Honda owner in the same catergory. Every Accord in the world is riced up to the extreme. I guess my mom's standard black 98 Accord is rare. Oh wait, they're not. The riced up ones are the rare ones. My bad.

I have yet to have see a Firebird that didn't have some kind of ****ty paint job on them, considering they came from the factory that way in the 80s. And they don't even MAKE the Camaro anymore.

 

Again, I'm sorry you're stupid. I'm also sorry that you haven't seen a decently maintained Honda-made car or one that is owned by normal people that don't do stuff to their car. Remember, the Accord is one of the best selling cars in the US. I see literally dozens of Accords a day and not a single one of them had had anything done to it. Logic clearly destroys any kind of super-pro-american built car thing you might try. Hell, they're saying that next year the #1 car maker in the US saleswise is going to be TOYOTA. Not even an American company.

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Originally posted by Nute Gunray

And they don't even MAKE the Camaro anymore.

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/index_ss.htm

Looks pretty new to me. Definately not any 80s style. Are you sure you even know what you're talking about?

 

Originally posted by Nute Gunray

Again, I'm sorry you're stupid. I'm also sorry that you haven't seen a decently maintained Honda-made car or one that is owned by normal people that don't do stuff to their car. Remember, the Accord is one of the best selling cars in the US. I see literally dozens of Accords a day and not a single one of them had had anything done to it. Logic clearly destroys any kind of super-pro-american built car thing you might try. Hell, they're saying that next year the #1 car maker in the US saleswise is going to be TOYOTA. Not even an American company.

Ok, wait. I'm not argueing popularity here. I'm not talking about your everyday driver. I'm speaking strictly from the car enthusiast scene here (enthusiasts like that Del Sol owner this topic was about), not what Joe Blow chose to commute back and forth to work in. And most of the people I see taking their Hondas to the drag strips, and to car shows, and to club meets, every damn one looks like that and you know it. Anyone I've seen who buys their Honda to race it or show it off, the majority of them throw that kind of crap on their car. And I see it everywhere I go. Each time I take my car to the track. Each time a bunch of us get together and pop the hoods of our cars. To me, a car to brag about isn't one with a whale spoiler, neon lights, and an assload of stickers. It's a car with an engine built to scream. And I've seen some pretty capable Hondas. I never was going so far as to say that there isn't a single Honda out there that has been built up to perform like a god. But I still stand by my observations that a majority of Honda owners who race their car do that kind of stuff to it.

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Originally posted by Elegy

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/index_ss.htm

Looks pretty new to me. Definately not any 80s style. Are you sure you even know what you're talking about?

Do YOU? That's the 2002 Camaro. There isn't a 2003 Camaro. Care to make a guess why? There's no 2003 Firebird either.

 

stuff

 

You seem to have changed your point in mid-game.

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Originally posted by Nute Gunray

haha yes. we had an 88 plymouth caravan for...**** nine years. Had like 150k miles on it. it was in really good shape until 97 when it just stopped working all at once.

The Car That Wouldn't Die:

My mom had a '78 Toyota Corolla Station Wagon that she drove for close to 15 years and put over 300 thousand miles on (and it might have been closer to 400K but we'll never know because the speedo/odometer cable broke about 10 years in and she never bothered to fix it)

We only abandoned it when parts started falling off randomly... like wheels, the front passenger door, body panels, etc... Despite a bit of oil leaking into the cylinders the engine was as strong as ever and probably could have gone another 300K at least.

When the guy from the junk yard came to collect it he just started it up and drove it on the ramp of the truck.

A few weeks later we started seeing it around town with some new body panels grafted on. We found out later that some kid from the Voc-Tech High School bought it and did a little body work as a class project and then drove it around for a few more years.

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Originally posted by Flying Beastie

I'd paint a big red Autobot symbol on the roof. ;)

 

I had a Transformer question I've been wanting to ask you, I was discussing tranformer related stuff (original series) with a friend of mine at the food court (near the university center). While we were having fun remembering the good old episodes I mentioned the time when Humans could ride/pilote Autobots (they did some kind of modification on the Autobots). My friend told me there was no such thing but I'm pretty sure there was something like that... so? was there?

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I do remember that. It was a season 3 ep (affectionately referred to as G1.2 ;) ).

 

The episode was Only Human; you can find the synopsis and a transcript over at The Cybertronian Chronicle (thanks to Rik Bakke for this invaluable TF resource).

 

A terrorist leader called Snake (*) uses a Macguffin to transfer Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Springer, and Arcee into synthoid bodies. After this, a human crimelord (who the Autobots were trying to put down) and his flunkies could sit in the Transformers' chest cavities and control them like little mobile-suits.

 

As near as the fandom could figure out, those driver's compartments were added in by Quintessons before they figured out how to use sparks for the AI system. The real explanation, of course, is that the writers wanted it that way. But where's the fun in that?

 

When Quintessons first designed their machines as consumer/military goods, they were intended for humanoid beings (that's why they were designed to have humanoid bodies and "genders"). Possibly the original designs called for the Transformers to be piloted. Then the Quintessons would've discovered sparks (i.e., Vector Sigma), and with them practical "artificial" intelligence.

 

* This episode possibly marks one of the only canonical G.I. Joe crossovers, as the script and voice-acting strongly imply that "Snake" is none other than Cobra Commander himself.

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Originally posted by Elegy

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/index_ss.htm

Looks pretty new to me. Definately not any 80s style. Are you sure you even know what you're talking about?

 

Each time I take my car to the track. Each time a bunch of us get together and pop the hoods of our cars.

 

You are such a jackass. I am a total Chevy Guy, my dream car is a lingenfelter 427 TT Z06 Vette, will smoke any car porsche ever made, a non-TT $27'd stock 03 Z06 Beat a stock 911T in all of motor trends tests in a head to head shootout. Woudl I know such mundane info I didn't love Chevy? no, well maybe, but I am not that big of a loser. I have a 99 Camaro SS sitting at home right now, further proving my love for Chevy. THERE IS NO 2004 CAMARO OR FIREBIRD/TRANS AM. They have been taken out of production for an unknown amount of time. The Trans Am is being replaced by the 2004 Pontiac GTO, a RWD 6 Spd LS1 powered sedan based off its GM Australia cousin the Holden Monaro, it should be only offered with t he LS1 and 6 spd if they keep their word. Man, for being a 'car guy; you sure did miss about the biggest news for cars in the last year. As far as your stupid slang talk, I'm with Nute, gay slang liek sick, wicked, right and shibby should be eradicated. So now that we proved that you really don't know jack **** about cars, and probably race your moms old minivan against your friends neons and civics, would like to stop talking, or just change the subject to something else. I guess it is possible that you do have a nice car and race at the track, but that just makes you an idiot instead of a poser.

 

 

And a final and less synical note, after I get my Vette, I want a V-Rod :D

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Thanks for the info FB, that was interesting, especially the G.I Joe part... I never made the connection.

 

My friend and I are trying to figure out where we can buy all the seasons on DVD. We checked on amazon and they only have 1 and 2 and it's way too expensive. So? Any hints on where we could find them?

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Rideau Centre. Ground floor. The music store next to Shopper's Drug Mart (the name escapes me at the moment). They had the S1 & 2 DVDs when they first came out (just a month-or-so back, actually). Haven't been in there recently, so I don't know if they have any left.

 

S1 & 2 (i.e., G1.1) are the only ones out so far. S3 should come out in by the end of the school year (we're all hoping). The S1 DVDs have some. . . problems(*), and the "fixes" for the S2 discs need to be fixed again (here's hoping Rhino gets it right this time :roleyess: )

 

*The problems are just a matter of Hasbro/Rhino/whatever trying to "improve" the original filmstock (which had begun to age). Mostly recolouring things (badly) and adding "improved" sound effects that end up sucking.

 

Think of how Lucas "improved" Star Wars by having Greedo shoot first, and you'll get the idea. ;)

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I've noticed a sharp increase in the number of Armada toys and this pleases me. I saw what I think was the Combaticons (and failed to have money at the time :(). It was really nice and came as a set. There were either five or six of them. They weren't as big as the boxed Armada toys, but they were the same size as the ones that come on cards. I dont remember them selling boxed sets of all the, say, Constructicons back in the day. The new Galvatron and Jetfire looked cool. I almost got the Jetfire. I forgot who it was that is a sickly green now. Whoever it was, I picked it and my internal monologue squealed Scorponok when seeing the colors but I was sadly mistaken.

 

Ok, I remember an episode wherein the Autobots captured a bunch of Decepticons and then repainted themselves in order to appear as though they were, in fact, the captured Decepitcons. I think they were called the Bruticons or something stupid sounding like that. Please inform me of what these guys were called so that I can add them to my list of things to buy if i ever see them.

 

EDIT: I remembered the name of the gestalt I saw.

 

EDIT 2: HOLY COW! Whatever crimes the Armada show has commited, they have all been purged, for they have brought back Thundercracker. If they also bring back Skywarp, I will start claiming to enjoy the show.

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Originally posted by Nute Gunray

I've noticed a sharp increase in the number of Armada toys and this pleases me.

More on the way, including someone called Wheeljack, who is earning the ire of fans for having absolutely no relationship to the "real" Wheeljack of G1. You'll know him when you see him; he has a big red Autobot symbol on his chest, with a jagged slash through it, and a smaller (intact) Decepticon logo underneath that. :shads2:

 

I saw what I think was the Combaticons (and failed to have money at the time :(). It was really nice and came as a set. There were either five or six of them. They weren't as big as the boxed Armada toys, but they were the same size as the ones that come on cards. I dont remember them selling boxed sets of all the, say, Constructicons back in the day.
That would be "Arctic Camo Ruination," the second version of the RiD Commandos (who are themselves repaints of the G1 Combaticons). This makes the fourth repaint of these guys (G1, G2, RiD, Arctic Camo), and there're probably more on the way.

 

The translation from G1 to RiD is thus:

Onslaught => Mega-Octane

Swindle => Rollbar

Brawl => Armorhide

Vortex => Rotor

Blast Off => Movor

They combune into

Bruticus => Ruination

 

Boxed gift sets were popular in Japan. Then they were adopted here by knockoff "artists," and were then adopted by real toy companies.

 

I forgot who it was that is a sickly green now. Whoever it was, I picked it and my internal monologue squealed Scorponok when seeing the colors but I was sadly mistaken.

 

That was the new Megatron (people are calling him the love child of G1 Megs and Skorponok). He's much closer to the Beast Wars Megatron than the G1 version (Largely by virtue of having David Kaye as his television voice-actor, yeeess).

 

Or possibly Scavenger, who bears a stunning resemblance to the old Constructicon Scrapper (though he's an Autobot now, apparently).

 

Ok, I remember an episode wherein the Autobots captured a bunch of Decepticons and then repainted themselves in order to appear as though they were, in fact, the captured Decepitcons. I think they were called the Bruticons or something stupid sounding like that. Please inform me of what these guys were called so that I can add them to my list of things to buy if i ever see them.

 

EDIT: I remembered the name of the gestalt I saw.

The Stunticons, who combined into Menasor. Good luck finding them, as they've never been repainted. They almost appeared in G2, but the only one that was finished was a limited run of Breakdowns, which were given away as BotCon exclusives in '95.

 

The episode, BTW, was Masquerade.

 

EDIT 2: HOLY COW! Whatever crimes the Armada show has commited, they have all been purged, for they have brought back Thundercracker. If they also bring back Skywarp, I will start claiming to enjoy the show.
Upcoming toy releases include Thrust and Ramjet. All we need now is Dirge and Warpy, and we'll have all the Seekers (or at least their names, as this is a whole 'nuther continuity).

 

Most fans sincerely dislike the show for it's heavy emphasis on the human kids, and the glaring script mistakes (characters being called by other characters' names, dialogue that just has no relationship to what's on screen, etc). Others have praised it for making Starscream more complex than the simple power-hungry backstabber of G1 (seen in "Rebellion," when the Decepticon infighting finally comes to blows). Still others are orgasmically happy because the show has Unicron himself as the Big Bad.

 

Personally, I can't comment, because I'm in Canada, and we've only seen up to "Ruin," less than half of the season. :roleyess:

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