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I moved from Canada to Texas. In Canada I was pretty much average, with some obvious strengths. In Texas, I'm considered smart, but people here respect that (and I'm not saying there arent smart people in texas either). People at my HS are mature enough I guess that bullying isnt really present in the traditional sense (once you're in 11th/12th grade at least). People will pick on each other, but its all trivial. I get mesed with for being Canadian, but I'm entertianing and crazy enough that people dont have any dislike for me, although I dont have many real friends, I'm just "The Canadian".

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I agree with those that haven't seen the division amongst those that are smarter than others, are looking things with blinkers on.

 

Whilst there are groups of friends of the "smart" that cling to each other, in general they are a small group that are discluded from a lot of things that the popular have. It also really depends on whether you subconsciously put down others that are not your intellectual equal, which will determine if being smart makes you unpopular.

Like with those that are sports-minded, or using the american term, jocks, who seem to appeal to the lowest common denominator, and therefore are popular. Some people can be in both camps, I was lucky enough to be smart, and extremely good at sports as well. But I was still seen as one of the outsiders, and one of the regulars that missed out on parties and such...

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we dotn really have that many nerds at our school. probably about 15 out 0f 850. To me, a nerd isnt a smart kid. A nerd is someone who has no life and just doesnt seem to fit in anywhere. there are lots of smart kids at our school, but they're not nerds. they're just regular kids. at our school, the hierarchy goes like this:

 

Non-dumbasses

dumbasses

 

pardon my language, but a dumbass in our school is literally a dumbass. a dumbass isnt a bully or something. for example, a dumbass at our school doesnt know who won WWII, he doesnt know our nation's first president, he doesn't even know who Michael Jordan is. I mean, you dont have to like basketball, everyone knows who Michael Jordan is. THat's jsut my view.

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Originally posted by munik

I don't agree with the smart=nerd nerd=smart logic of the essay, but I understand the point.

 

Once you have said smart=nerd, the other half is intuitively obvious, and so it is unneccesary to state. Well, actually he also states that it is far from a perfect model.

 

Originally posted by munik

In my school, it wasn't so much as intelligence that made one popular or unpopular, as the amount of money ones family had.

 

Actually it also helps in the popularity race if your parents have money to buy you new clothes, ect, but I see your point.

 

Originally posted by munik

I think that is why you see some odd descriptions of school life here. Not everyone grew up in the suburbs, and that is quite a specific type of life.

 

True, true... But to us Danish it translates pretty well, because most of Denmark is one big suburb.

 

Originally posted by munik

I believed that school in the later grades was mostly a waste. I figure all that information could be learned in about a year, not 4 or 5.

 

*sigh* Me too.

 

Originally posted by munik

So I reasoned that later grades are there for the social interaction. Sort of to learn how to interact with others socially. What I never thought of was what the essay described.

 

[...]

 

I just realized that I came to my own conclusion that exactly mirrors the one I just read in the essay. Wow. It's like an epiphany.

 

Epiwhat? Well, maybe he was just right.

 

Originally posted by munik

I like how in the essay he points out that girls are much more crueler then the boys when it comes to bullying. Maybe in compensation for the lack of desire to physically harass? Or the inability to effectively intimidate.

 

Or mayhaps they are just smarter than us?

 

Originally posted by munik

C'jais, I'm suprised to see that you are only 17. You just led me to re-formulate the opinion that all children are illogical, it must only apply to those children from the States. And maybe England too. So, in what land do they encourage such free thinking in their children?

 

They don't, as a rule. C'Jais and I are nerds, not representative of the Danish youth (BTW: I'm 16).

 

C'jais

Prophet of Nothing

 

Denmark - the land of beer and babes!

 

Hint: look to the right of England, the top of Germany and the left of..... Sverige

 

Thanks for the compliment (:

 

Yeah, thanks for the compliment... Though C'Jais forgot something: It's the capital of Malmö (joking).

 

BCanr2d2

Dodgy Knees Inc

 

I agree with those that haven't seen the division amongst those that are smarter than others, are looking things with blinkers on.

 

Hear, hear.

 

But I was still seen as one of the outsiders, and one of the regulars that missed out on parties and such...

 

I miss out many parties too, but I don't miss them (pun kindof intended).

 

Arkum

Rancor

 

To me, a nerd isnt a smart kid. A nerd is someone who has no life and just doesnt seem to fit in anywhere. there are lots of smart kids at our school, but they're not nerds. they're just regular kids. at our school, the hierarchy goes like this:

 

Non-dumbasses

dumbasses

 

pardon my language, but a dumbass in our school is literally a dumbass. a dumbass isnt a bully or something. for example, a dumbass at our school doesnt know who won WWII, he doesnt know our nation's first president, he doesn't even know who Michael Jordan is. I mean, you dont have to like basketball, everyone knows who Michael Jordan is. THat's jsut my view.

 

The Allies won WWII, Michael Jordan is a basketball player I believe, and your first el Presidente was Washington, right?

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Originally posted by C'jais

Last of all, to state that there are no persons in your school being bullied, no one is alone and outside the crowd and everyone has someone to talk to is just pure ignorance IMHO. I don't buy that horsesh/t.

 

Oh that is most true, there are of course many people who get bullied at my school. I was merely stating that I consider myself to be a nerd of high degree but I am not picked on ;)

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If nerds are defined as 'different', call me Nerd King! WOO HOO!!

 

Seriously though, in my school, theres 3 kindsa people.

A: Upper Point Place

B: Lower Point Place

C: Not the Point at all

Basically where you fall in there is how people react to you. And these aren't nessecerily where you live, either. Those 3 are attitudes*I know alotta people who live by the local prison who are UPP*. I, personally, fall into my own catagory...being myself and all. Go on, try and stereotype me as a skater and I'll prove to why I'm not a skater*yes yes, the master of the faceplant is on LF:D*...I got far off subject, ya? Um anyways, popularity sucks and its for people who are so insecure they need all their jokes laughed at, especially when they pick on someone*until they realize that that someone knows where they live when they try to go school the next day and get shot by a few dozen paintballs...not that I'd EVER do anything like that:D*

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Originally posted by MydnightPsion

Um anyways, popularity sucks and its for people who are so insecure they need all their jokes laughed at

 

Try having no friends, and getting bullied at every conceivable oppurtunity.

 

Once you've felt that on your body, come back and state the same thing.

 

Peyce. -C'

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Originally posted by ET Warrior

Actually, nerds are unpopular because THEY'RE different and hard to talk to for the most part.

 

Cheap. They aren't any more difficult to talk to than normal people. They just generally don't have the same interests or, for that matter, the same vocabulary, as the rest of the school. This of course makes them difficult to talk with for people who don't share their sphere of interests.

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Originally posted by C'jais

Try having no friends, and getting bullied at every conceivable oppurtunity.

 

Once you've felt that on your body, come back and state the same thing.

 

Peyce. -C'

 

...*licks teeth*...I reiterate my statement and it stands as is. Popularity blows. How about this one: Try having lots of friends, bullying people at every conceivable purpose. Then, throw it all away because you just realized that the only reason they like you is because you can protect them from just about anyone. OR, listen to different music then them, let them critisize you're music, retaliate, and see how many people just roll there eyes and act like the discussion never happened.

 

Real friends are those you make before you're popular, while you're popular, and those who stick around when you throw popularity out the window.

 

Now, which would you rather have?

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Originally posted by MydnightPsion

Now, which would you rather have?

 

Between which choices, exactly?

 

Friendless and dying to get at least some semblance of recognition, or having turned your back on trying to get popular, along with your mates?

 

Is it even a choice?

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Originally posted by ShadowTemplar

Cheap. They aren't any more difficult to talk to than normal people. They just generally don't have the same interests or, for that matter, the same vocabulary, as the rest of the school. This of course makes them difficult to talk with for people who don't share their sphere of interests.

 

Not completely true. There are nerds who maybe don't normally have the same interests as other people, but they pretend that they are, but they just don't pick up things very well. Like a kid i knew who called everyone "dog" which was irritating, and basically trying to maintain conversation with him for like, 10 seconds was painful. Sometimes there is nothing to be done, and nerds are nerds.

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I used to be a nerd. I was the leader, always orginized, helpful, tall and strong. Then I got in a fight and they saw the true power of the Goblin. Then I help put in good names for the rest of the nerds. Now they have alot of friends. Feels good to have conquer stupidity with the simplest of tactics. :D

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when I was in school, basically it was large enough, so that if you didn't really want to be bothered, you can just kinda lay low and stay out of the way. Yeah I remember there being some picking on / bullying, I wasn't very good at talking to people, I'm still not, I'm usually pretty intimidated by people. Once I got out though I realized nobody really gives a sh*t... I hardly remember high school at all in fact...

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