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Congrats, you're now the president of the USA.

 

What 5 five things will you do to make the world a better place? (emphasis added)

A great way to put things, 'Jais :) (j/k).

 

0. Thank the party.. uh, people:evil3:.

 

1. Revoke 2nd Amendment and increase police funding.

 

2. Increase right of privacy, revoking media's rights to write about you if you don't want them to and it's off-topic (as in interviewing you when your little girl has been kidnapped).

 

3. Free school and health care.

 

4. Ban nazism, anti-semitic views, racist statements, and physical punishment.

 

Edit:

5. Install a Norway-type Constitutional Monarchy with people-elected parties and party-elected presidents.

 

I can't come up with anything else right now, but I might edit the post later.

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1)Deploy the National Guard to the borders to stop ILLEGAL immigration.

2)Banish the Income Tax, and establish a flat tax on all goods and services.

3)Banish the Death Penalty, and institute a system of hard labor for violent offenders.

4)Institute a national lottery, and put the additional revenue to good use with various economic and social programs

5)Institute a new World Debating organization, made up of ONLY democratically elected governments.

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Originally posted by C'jais

Congrats, you're now the president of the USA.

 

What 5 five things will you do to make the world a better place?

1. take away the electoral college.

2.eliminate boundaries in political parties.

3.crack down on military staff raping foriegn civilians.

4.make a treaty with all militaristic countries and destroy US nukes along side with the other countries

5. make animal cruelty punishment stricter/ make child pornography punishment stricter.

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1. Encourage Christianity. Not force it, just encourage it.

2. Give billions of smackers to Health care prgrams and education. NOT all to the army to fight Syria or something.

3. Encourage open minds in speeches.

4. Give more money to law enforcement

5. Get kicked out of office.

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Assuming no one in congress would oppose me:

 

1. Start the American Empire. No more invasions and replacements of foreign governments, we move in and slap a 51st State sticker right on the map. I figure if we're gonna take the time and resources to invade, we ought to keep it. I know exactly who should be 51, 52, 53, and 54. Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Our three territories and commonwealth have been living the good life for too long, it's time to make some States!

 

2. This goes with number one. If we have all these States all over the world, I figure we need some good naval control of trade routes and such. So, increase naval funding and impose maritime law on all pirates. I'm talking about killing every last one and scuttling every pirate ship. That should benefit the world in a big way, even though the world is soon to be part of the Empire.

 

3. To save everyone money, we institute a penal colony. I suggest we use England, since they thought it was such a good idea before. We would first have to make England a State, it would just be the penal State. That my friends is the definition of irony. Just have small naval patrols to kill any they find escaping. To be fair, if you do manage to escape, you win your freedom back.

 

4.(Soon to be added)

5.(Soon to be added)

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"munik" are you trying to take my place as most hated poster here....:p ?

 

1. Dissolve the Government as it is. Impose 3 houses. There would still be the same Senate and House of Representatives. They would be 2 of the same side. As well as a Judicial Branch, or now called the House of Justice. Added would be a House of the Military. The Military takes all the risks they should have a say.

 

2. Restructure the military.

 

3. People would no longer have the right to vote unless they did Government or Military service. Citizens or Civilians. Starship troopers bad movie good idea.

 

4. Death penalty for rapist, murders, and thieves. Driving under the influence and running from the law would be considered attempted murder and punishable by death. Not in years, but in weeks.

 

5. Establish the Public Execution park. A place where citizens to voluntarily hunt down and execute criminals by there own hand you get a Tape and a T-Shirt :D That says "I shot Mansion" or "I Chopped Up Bundy" something along those lines...

 

Munik you want to be my Vice Press? Cosmos Jack and Munik 2004 :rolleyes:

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Hmmmm...

 

1. Make the government completely secular. I mean, no religion at all. Allow for it in the citizens, but make no decisions based upon it.

 

2. Abolish the electoral college.

 

3. Create a prison system in which inmates are tortured according to what their crime was. Ex. A petty thief might get 40 lashes in the city square, then a month of hard labor. A murder/rapist would get the same 40 lashes, then salt poured in the wound, and then any number of horrible torutres performed on them, ending in a slow death. Make it all public where it's easily seen.

 

4. Hold politicians accountable to what they say. By this I mean, if they say they will do something when they get elected, and they do get elected and dont do it, they should get the boot. You lied, we elected you under these conditions. You didnt live up to your end of the bargain, so we take back ours. Buh bye.

 

5. Dedicate more funding to stem cell research and the genome project, as well as the space program. You know, all those programs that deserve the money that's going to the welfare crackhouses.

 

 

 

I have a sixth...

 

6. Set a 4 month limit on welfare. After that, you are on your own. If you have kids to feed and still are too lazy to get a job in that four month period, we'll take the kids. They'll be better where we put them (good foster home, well researched and checked out). After you get kicked off welfare, you will be given foodstamps. Nothing more.

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1) End corporate welfare. Including tax loopholes and government funding.

 

2) The Department of Defense shouldn't be allowed to jokingly be referred to as "The Department of Invasion". Cut the military in half, using the money on improving NASA and researching alternate power sources. End all US military presence in the world. Only leave bases in the US itself. Perhaps make a regime in Zimbabwe just to prove Iraq wasn't a joke, and then keep the f*ck out of things USA has no say in.

 

3) Research alternate power sources. Drops dependancy on oil and makes for cleaner power.

 

4) Increased funding for the space program. NASA needs a vastly increased budget. Space is where our future is. Not this soon-to-be-dead rock.

 

5) Remove farmer subsidies. The third world can't sell their goods because of them. What, does the American public care if the corn they're chewing comes from India or their homeland? I can't believe they do.

 

And because I'm completely unable to control myself, and because there's so much to improve, here are some changes to the country itself:

 

6) Go into New deal-mode and make huge, broad-sweeping public works. Increase taxes by 75 to 100%.

 

7) Remove a lot of the censorship on TV. Nudity, swearing and sex is ok. USA needs to grow up.

 

8) Enforce environmental laws. We're talking heavy fines to corporations if they break the law on this area.

 

9) Fix the election system. If 30% of California is for democrats and 70% is for republican electors, 3 electors from the democrats and 7 from the republicans go to the electoral college. Problem solved.

 

10) Health care. Free health care. The government pays for your doctor and hospital visits, and if you don't like the service, cough up the cash for a private clinic.

 

11) Repeal the right to having a concealed weapon. Only undercover policemen should be able to have it. In fact, make it illegal to go out and own a gun right away. Licenses are required, and if you're caught without one, you can be looking forward to a pleasant time in jail.

 

12) Simplify laws. Laws must be re-approved every 4 years, so that silly laws like the ones that can get you arrested for practicing sodomy or suing McDonalds for making you fat gets trashed.

 

13) Civil unions. Anyone can marry whoever they want as long as they're 18 years or older. This include homosexuals and multiple partners, if they so desire.

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Originally posted by ShockV1.89

3. Create a prison system in which inmates are tortured according to what their crime was. Ex. A petty thief might get 40 lashes in the city square, then a month of hard labor. A murder/rapist would get the same 40 lashes, then salt poured in the wound, and then any number of horrible torutres performed on them, ending in a slow death. Make it all public where it's easily seen.

 

So you want a return to the dark ages and beyond? I thought we were past that.

 

I can't see this helping anything. If anything, it'll only show USA as a brutal state on par with Taleban-Afghanistan. I don't think the threat of bigger punishment goes through the head of most criminals when in the moment of breaking the law, in MHO.

 

4. Hold politicians accountable to what they say. By this I mean, if they say they will do something when they get elected, and they do get elected and dont do it, they should get the boot. You lied, we elected you under these conditions. You didnt live up to your end of the bargain, so we take back ours. Buh bye.

 

While well-intentioned, I think this will be counterproductive. Most presidents would be voted out within months. The fact is, it's hard to know for sure how the conditions are, and what new challenges you'll face when in the Oval Office. If you're so angry at politicians lying, I think you have to look at it this way: It's just the same bullsh*t they're all feeding the public. It's always been this way - the public wants what it cannot get, but if some person suddenly convinces it that he can deliver it, he's in. Realize this, and start to nitpick the plausible from the improbable.

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Originally posted by Cosmos Jack

3. People would no longer have the right to vote unless they did Government or Military service. Citizens or Civilians. Starship troopers bad movie good idea.

 

What makes you think people that served in the military are somehow more qualified for voting, than people who didn't? It's just not logical.

 

4. Death penalty for rapist, murders, and thieves. Driving under the influence and running from the law would be considered attempted murder and punishable by death. Not in years, but in weeks.

 

5. Establish the Public Execution park. A place where citizens to voluntarily hunt down and execute criminals by there own hand you get a Tape and a T-Shirt :D That says "I shot Mansion" or "I Chopped Up Bundy" something along those lines...

 

Disgusting. You think this will decrease crime? Or do just want another kind of public entertainment?

 

It's kinda hard respecting the sanctity of life, which the government tries so hard to promote, when it's at the same time chopping heads off even the pettiest thieves.

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10) Health care. Free health care. The government pays for your doctor and hospital visits, and if you don't like the service, cough up the cash for a private clinic.

 

6. Set a 4 month limit on welfare. After that, you are on your own. If you have kids to feed and still are too lazy to get a job in that four month period, we'll take the kids. They'll be better where we put them (good foster home, well researched and checked out). After you get kicked off welfare, you will be given foodstamps. Nothing more.

Um.. four months sounds a bit short to get a job, IMO. And let's get rid of this stupid far-right stereotype that all poor people are lazy. There are a million reasons why you can go in the hole, and in the States, there are even more. The ones I can think of:

  • Fired.
  • Company going broke.
  • Injury. Either one that leaves you unable to work or one that you can't pay for and thus throws you in the hole.
  • Bank going broke.

 

7) Remove a lot of the censorship on TV. Nudity, swearing and sex is ok. USA needs to grow up.

So is topless tanning on beaches:D.

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"C'jais" Ahhh didn't know this was a discusion just thought I was supost to list my ideas.

 

 

Originally posted by C'jais

What makes you think people that served in the military are somehow more qualified for voting, than people who didn't? It's just not logical.

What makes people that have never done anything for there country more qualified? People who volunteer to take the risks should have the say. Not the ones that sit back and watch and complain. Most military people know what I'm talking about. Alot of countries have forced military service for men. What's the differance? Here your not forced you don't have to, but you wonte get to vote if you don't and it's not just military service, but government service. For peet sake you could be a postman or a streat cleaner for 2 years and earn the right to vote. Earn money for college and medical. It wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

Originally posted by C'jais

Disgusting. You think this will decrease crime? Or do just want another kind of public entertainment?

Well Singapore has public caning you know for just about every miss diameter. From littering to spiting to chewing gum. It's a very clean country.

It would also make a good form of public entertainment and a way for the Gov. to make money off criminals rather than spend it they don't disserve that.

Originally posted by C'jais

It's kinda hard respecting the sanctity of life, which the government tries so hard to promote, when it's at the same time chopping heads off even the pettiest thieves.

I never said I supported the sanctity of life. IF I ever had have a wife or daughter and someone rapes or kills them I'm not going to let them live. They don't deserve that right.
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Ok, I'm turning this into a discussion thread right now.

 

 

Originally posted by Cosmos Jack

What makes people that have never done anything for there country more qualified? People who volunteer to take the risks should have the say. Not the ones that sit back and watch and complain. Most military people know what I'm talking about. Alot of countries have forced military service for men. What's the differance? Here your not forced you don't have to, but you wonte get to vote if you don't and it's not just military service, but government service. For peet sake you could be a postman or a streat cleaner for 2 years and earn the right to vote. Earn money for college and medical. It wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

Tell me, what would that turn this country into? Do you know how many people would not be able to vote. Whether you like it or not, everyone should have the right to vote.

 

In fact, with these ideas of yours, you wouldn't even be voted into office by the military people. Wanna know why? Do you think that anyone who has seen blood, death and has been shot at would want to have public executions? Thats what people like Hitler and Saddam did for cryin out loud.

 

 

Originally posted by Cosmos Jack

Well Singapore has public caning you know for just about every miss diameter. From littering to spiting to chewing gum. It's a very clean country.

 

That would make us barbarians. Our public entertainment would be reduced to nothing more that seeing little kids getting caned because they spit gum without knowing.

 

 

Originally posted by Cosmos Jack

It would also make a good form of public entertainment and a way for the Gov. to make money off criminals rather than spend it they don't disserve that.

 

EVERYONE deserves a fair trial that the government spends money on. If you accidentally hit someone in your car and they died wouldn't you want your government to spend some money on you so you could at least have a fair trial? Would you want to be publically mocked and caned? Would you want to be hunted by civilians for amusement?

 

 

Originally posted by Cosmos Jack

I never said I supported the sanctity of life. IF I ever had have a wife or daughter and someone rapes or kills them I'm not going to let them live. They don't deserve that right.

 

What if that person had a mental disease where they do not know what they are doing? Is that their fault?

 

And think about it. If someone who kills someone else automatically deserves death by the government but you kill them first... you're going to die. You killed them, which (in your world) would be automatic death.

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Whoohoo! I was hoping we'd get to rag on each others ideas! I just didn't want to be the first one.

Originally posted by C'jais

5) Remove farmer subsidies. The third world can't sell their goods because of them. What, does the American public care if the corn they're chewing comes from India or their homeland? I can't believe they do.

Not sure exactly what a subsidary is, but we would care on the basis of self sufficiency. You know, the whole "Buy USA" slogan and stuff.

 

Originally posted by C'jais

6) Go into New deal-mode and make huge, broad-sweeping public works. Increase taxes by 75 to 100%.

We are taxed on quite a few things. I challenge you to make a list of things that are taxed, and things that are not, and see which one is longer. Also, I seem to recall a little problem with taxes that was a factor in the creation of this country. I think that if they were to be raised to astronomical levels that others might start remembering too.

 

And I just love the way you type "practicing sodomy", it makes me all tingly.

 

 

 

Cosmos Jack, I don't know if I could run with you. I'm trying to create an Empire here, and it's people like you whose heads I need to step on to do it. Maybe we could do a best 3 out of 5 indian leg wrestling contest to see who gets to be the Emperor.

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Originally posted by MydnightPsion

okay, back on topic

 

1: Ban major religion. Tear down all churches, sinagaughs, mosques, ect. You want to worship, do it at home. The job PASTOR would be obliterated. This way, EVERYONE pays taxes.

 

:rolleyes: Thats like me saying that I'm gonna ban all heathen talk about no God... And umm... pastors pay taxes...

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okay, back on topic

 

1: Ban major religion. Tear down all churches, sinagaughs, mosques, ect. You want to worship, do it at home. The job PASTOR would be obliterated. This way, EVERYONE pays taxes.

 

2. Increase laws on nature reserves and wildlife reserves. Poachers and lumberjacks caught there would be tied to a tree and have honey smeared on them. And if they escaped, their 'guardian' will shoot them from within the trees.

 

3. Destroy all nuclear weapon facilities and launchers. the last thing we need is Fallout coming into reality.

 

4. Alternate power means. We don't need to kill everything when we drive.

 

5. Deregulation. The breaking down of major companies for more competition among them. If a company fails to comply, they get shut down.

 

I figure most everyone else went past 5, my turn

 

6. Do away with electoral vote. Its dumb.*most of us agree*

 

7. Ban smoking cigars and cigarettes. If pot is gonna be illegal, so are these.

 

8. No concealed weapons. Plain and simple.

 

9. Public places will be just that, public. None of this being banned crap *that ones for you Bubbles!!*

 

10. Soliciting door-to-door will be illegal. Its just annoying and rude

 

EDIT: Hit the wrong button earlier, my bad

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Originally posted by Reborn Outcast

What if that person had a mental disease where they do not know what they are doing? Is that their fault?

You can pick on everything else I don't care, but this I have experience with.

 

To tell you the truth it doesn't matter these people know a lot more about what's going on than they lead people to believe. I know far to many PT's that have killed there parents and siblings and are in a mental hospital now for the sheer facts they don't want to stand trial. Yes a few may have a problem, but they sure as hell know what's going on around them. They know where they are, when it's time to smoke, and eat. Don't ever say that is an excuse these people are just as guilty as any sane person. They knew to do it they knew not to do it. They made a choice.

 

Sorry back on topic.....

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Does anyone notice that Reborn quoted Mydnight 2 minutes before Mydnight posted? And concerning that, I thought that churches and such were tax exempt. Wouldn't that mean that if you worked for the church you too would be tax exempt?

 

And this is the second time I've seen someone say get rid of concealed weapons. It's not that easy to get a carry and conceal weapon (ccw) permit. How many people have you seen, or heard of, that carry concealed? I don't understand what the problem with this permit is.

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Originally posted by munik

Does anyone notice that Reborn quoted Mydnight 2 minutes before Mydnight posted? And concerning that, I thought that churches and such were tax exempt. Wouldn't that mean that if you worked for the church you too would be tax exempt?

 

Mydnight had another post and I quoted that one but he deleated it and made a larger one after I had quoted. :D

 

 

 

And yes churches are free from tax but does that mean Pastorsdon't have to pay tax on everything outside of church?

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1a) Make a Synode for every major religion. Use it to exercise maximum control over religion. Either they are subservient to the government-controlled synode, or they have their fundings cut and are taxed beyond what they can possibly bear; nothing civilizes a preacher better than taking his paycheck.

 

Or

 

1b) Make religious practise in public illegal. What you do behind a closed door at home is your own business, but when in public, fething well don't support treasonous, totalitarian regimes.

 

2) Give NASA more money.

 

3) Remove the subsidiaries, like C'Jais said (munik: Subsidiaries are government funding of private business. This allows companies to dump the price of their goods, killing off local business in 3rd world countries that can't afford subsidiaries).

 

4) Support Stem Cell Research.

 

5) Remove any and all anti-abortion laws.

 

6) Make Evolution mandatory curriculum.

 

7) Make Math, Science (especially Physics), Formal Logic, and Statistics mandatory curriculum.

 

8) Support research in alternative energy (especially wind energy).

 

9) Forward a public apology to the UN for the former el Prez' actions.

 

10) Pay all debts to the UN, and increase foreign aid to the UN goal.

 

Not neccessairily in that order.

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Um.. four months sounds a bit short to get a job, IMO.

Well, I'd have to do some research on exactly how long most people take. I've never taken longer than a month to find a job, but then, I'm still a student... Maybe 6 months, or whatever...

 

And let's get rid of this stupid far-right stereotype that all poor people are lazy. There are a million reasons why you can go in the hole, and in the States, there are even more.

 

I never said that all poor people are lazy. But I live within 5 minutes drive of several large housing projects, in which nearly all of the people are welfare abusers. I see these scumbags sitting outside, drinking their 40s and mooching off government money. My girlfriends father does maintenance at several of them, and man, I've heard some stories. There are familys there that have been on welfare for several generations.

 

I have some person experience with this one. Maybe it's different in otehr states or parts of the world, but where I am (NY), welfare abuse is a major problem.

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Originally posted by Cosmos Jack

"C'jais" Ahhh didn't know this was a discusion just thought I was supost to list my ideas.

 

Just regard everything in this forum as open for discussion ;)

 

 

What makes people that have never done anything for there country more qualified? People who volunteer to take the risks should have the say.

 

So the postman and street cleaner are taking risks, compared to the privately hired bodyguard, who doesn't take any? That doesn't hold up.

 

I can see your point somewhat with the military, meaning that the people who have served know more about military affairs than "normal" people. But it can only go so far - the average soldier knows nothing more about running a country than the average postman, which means nothing really. But on the other hand, the biotechnician working for a corporation who never was in the army or did government, he might know a whole lot about politics and managing USA.

 

Fact is, people who have done government work know nothing more about being a good citizen and making the right decisions in government affairs - they just did a job like everyone else. Doesn't make them more qualified.

 

Not the ones that sit back and watch and complain.

 

Complain? What is it you're doing right now, Jack? You've been in the army, but I can't see it improving your status as a citizen. If nothing else, you now trust blindly in the military of USA to deliver you when there's world trouble.

 

Well Singapore has public caning you know for just about every miss diameter. From littering to spiting to chewing gum. It's a very clean country.

 

Is it?

 

Strangely, during the rule of Saddam in Iraq, there was little to no dissent among the people of his country. Everyone was very satisfied, and the government got the job done. Or did it?

 

It would also make a good form of public entertainment and a way for the Gov. to make money off criminals rather than spend it they don't disserve that.

 

There's another way to make even easier money - legalize prostitution and pot. Tax the living sh*t out of them.

 

I never said I supported the sanctity of life. IF I ever had have a wife or daughter and someone rapes or kills them I'm not going to let them live. They don't deserve that right.

 

But yet, you deserve the right to kill them?

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Originally posted by munik

Whoohoo! I was hoping we'd get to rag on each others ideas! I just didn't want to be the first one.

Not sure exactly what a subsidary is, but we would care on the basis of self sufficiency. You know, the whole "Buy USA" slogan and stuff.

 

I don't think you can be entirely self-sufficient at this point in history, unless you want to drastically decrease the living standard - You're dependant on oil, luxuries etc.

 

But really, you produce enough food to feed the entire third world, yet the huge majority of it is used as animal food. It's actually quite disgusting to think about it.

 

We are taxed on quite a few things.

 

Of course you are, but not enough, IMHO.

 

In my country, the income tax is at a modest 50% and it works fine. Not to forget all the extremely heavy taxing on goods and foostuffs.

 

I think that if they were to be raised to astronomical levels that others might start remembering too.

 

No one's talking about communism-like astronomical levels ;)

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1. ELIMINATE THE NATIONAL DEBT. Most of it is paid to private banks that run the federal reserve. It only costs .60 cents to produce paper money, regardless of which dead presidents face adorns it. There is only 300 billion paper dollars in circulation right now. The debt is now 6 trillion dollars. Who's making this profit and how? You do the math, then do the research.

 

(Opening this pandoras box alone, would get me assasinated as president. So below are a list of laws that my vice president, who happens to be a legalized clone of myself, will continue on for me...)

 

2. Don't give nasa more money. PRIVATISE THE SPACE INDUSTRY. Do it NOW. Allow private companies the right to explore and exploit space. It's the only way to get us off this rock. Man has never been on the moon, since I've been alive anyway. Over 30 years ago was the last time we were there!. That's pathetic! Evolution is must work in reverse up in space, because our whole program has Devolved. Capitalism, bless it's dirty corruptable soul, is the only way to jumpstart our dying dreams of space.

 

2 a. Once this is established, build a safe and effective wagon train to get rid of nuclear and other polluted wastes: Place the pollutants on an elevator (made of quantum superstrong carbon atoms), send them up to an orbiting cargo ship, and then slingshot the ship on a one way path into our big blazing ball of a god, the sun.

 

3. Any industry that pollutes the environment, has to pay fines 10 times the amount it costs to clean it up. And the heads of those companies have to drink, bathe, and baptize their children in the water they pollute. Then go to jail.

 

4. Legalize any 'drug' that is a naturally growing piece of this planet.

 

5. Make schools (that have much higher government funded budgets) teach children to harness their own creative energies and abilities. Children have the instinct to create, give them more time to do so. Imagination, ladies and gentlemen, is what makes the world go round.

 

5 b. On a similar note, teachers should have more incentives. Like doctors, or lawyers, should be paid based on their abilities. They should be given raises if their students pass specialized equivlency tests.

 

6. Instill in the minds of Americans that consumption yields waste. Anything we procuce and consume, has a byproduct that must be accounted for and cleaned up. Give huge incentive and funding to companies that research how to balance out both ends of this production eqeation. This means alternative energy. Not just for cars, but for buildings, housing, electronics, etc...

 

7. For the love of God, stop stop stop destroying precious land and forests all over the world. As per point 6, RESPECT THE ECO-SYSTEM! Every action has a reaction. Trees produce oxygen and consume Carbon Dioxide. The less trees, the less room to breathe.

 

7 a. There is a design to the food chain, animals understand it, so should we. If we wipe out a species, we in turn wipe out ourselves. Designate more wildlife and land not for real estate, but to upstart and maintain local eco systems.

 

8. The last two years of high school must have mandatory classes that prepare and educate students how important it is to VOTE FOR THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS EVERY NOVEMBER. They need to learn what each branch of the officials do, who is running, what are the platforms, and figure out for themselves who to vote for. Teach how important it is to have MORE THAN TWO parties. There should be mock up elections in schools, to get familiar with the process. So that once they turn 18 they will know how important it is to vote and will express their voice, thus reducing the huge gap (50%) of eligible voters that DO NOT VOTE. Please, it's what our country is founded on. The only way for new generations to have a voice louder than the old ones is to vote.

 

9. And if after all this you DON'T vote for my re-election, then you get a free trip to space on my nuclear wagon train.

 

:)

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