Admiral Vostok Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 For starters it was Captain Needa, not Piett Those are all good points you make Corran, I don't wholly disagree with anything. EXCEPT for the fact that you believe Captain Needa might have been wrong. This seems a bit of a silly way to make something continuous with the movies. "This guy said that can't be possible" "He was wrong". Mon Mothma was different, the Emperor deceived her. I don't think someone would deceive Needa into believing Cloaking Devices can only be fitted to large ships. By using the "He was wrong" argument we can ligitimise any bit of contradictory EU: "How can ysalamiri (sp) exist? Yoda said the Force is everywhere and it binds everything together." "He was wrong". Now I don't mean to turn this into a Movies vs EU debate even though I love them so much. I'm not saying cloaking devices don't make things invisible or anything. But I think "He was wrong" is a bit of a silly way around continuity errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 yes but if you know your darwin species evolve through a need to survive and on mykr the only creatures who hunt through the force known as Voskrs live which by some happy chance are the same planet Yslmiri live on now does that get through to anyone or am i being TOO SARCASTIC the for the moment what i said is tripe i REGARD EVERYTHING that is not movies or official factfile as fanfic garbage i don;t go in for this cannon garbage it's official or unofficial rubbish. star wars is more than a film it's like saying harry potter are just the books. puhleeze in the novelisation of most of the films it puts in extra or deleted scenes i don't suppose you'd use that in your preciuos eu film argument which is in the WRONG thread as per usual. and for cloaking devices in star wars they make sure light rays and sensor rays don't illuminate it it also MAKES THE SHIP USING THE THING BLIND AS WELL i'd say that in their would be pretty balanced and one other detail they cost an arm and a leg for a ship the size of a star destroyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 Actually it would be so badly underpowered if it's blind. If a fighter has a cloaking device similar to what Viceroy says, then it would crash having no functionning instrument. If it has to decloak to attack, it kills the purpose of a cloaking device(à la SWGB1). If a small ground transport was cloaked, it would have the lousiest LOS ever not knowing what's 5 feet ahead of him or unable to know where possible hits come from. If it's detected it's a sitting duck but then again it won't get far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 EXACTLY0 i0 wasn;t0 suggesting0 thsat0 every0 unit0 have one it would be expensive and if you used jedi you could use them to co-ordinate attacks that's personally what i think jedi should get as a sepcial ability instead of any stealth upgrade. Power0 Of 0The0 Force It0 would0 be0 a0 technology0 that0 enhances0 accuracy0 armour0 range0 and nearly all catagories0 for units when in the presence of a jedi or sith master and if one of those were onboard a cloaked ship they0 could0 co-ordinate0 with0 a jedi on an uncloaked ship. and0 like i said there are tactiacal uses like i dunno if it's space based cloaked asteroids if it's unmanned and is just meant to orbit until said orbit decay's. WHY would it NEED0 sensors0 the0 cost0 alone0 would balance it out it0 wouldn't be helpless0 just0 goive0 it0 loads of fighters around it and they wouldn't realise and would give it a line of asight i think it could fill a tactical neiche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted September 6, 2003 Share Posted September 6, 2003 There's no point in having a sneak around ship if he needs heavy non-cloaked escort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted September 6, 2003 Share Posted September 6, 2003 It's back to the strategy argument again i see. It's a case of getting it to where is neededor scouting it out who said it had to escort it would merely be a feint while getting the transport or claoked unit into postion. DID ANYONE read the bit i said about jedi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted September 7, 2003 Author Share Posted September 7, 2003 No, becuase it was too difficult to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 I did, Viceroy. Why don't you wait for more tha one person to reply before you have a tantrum? Not a bad idea for Jedi, though it encourages their use as supporting or leading units and leans away from them acting alone, which is often what Jedi do (Obi-Wan on the Death Star, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon on Naboo, etc...) This harkens back to our Officer debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 Yeah True they did act as sort of commando but Episode 2 remeber And Also At The Time They Didn't Have An Actual Army So You'd Have To Factor That In Too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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