Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 In the book Tales of the Bounty Hunters, on the first page of Boba Fett's section it says: "The last statement of the Journeyman Protector Jaster Mareel, known later as the Hunter, Boba Fett, before exile from the world of Concord Dawn" it then procedes with the statement. But this little peice here raises some questions. It is known to me that Jaster Mareel was the reformed murderer who later lead the Mandalorians. And Jango Fett was one of his soldiers who took over the Mandalorians when Jaster died. And Boba Fett is Jango's son. But what is with this piece which says Boba Fett was Jaster Mareel? Is this an EU mistake? Or is there some other EU which explains it all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 EU created Jaster Mereel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 The fact is, Georgie has no respect for the established EU. Sure, it's his company, but he is the single biggest offender when it comes to screwing with the EU. Not that he shouldn't be able to. Lucas' Boba Fett story, IMO, isn't as good as the EU story, so I'm somewhat biased. The prequels were written some time after the majority of "classic" EU, so a lot of it makes no sense anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 I know Jaster is EU. I'm thinking mabee the earlyer EU wrote that, and Jaster Mareel was Boba Fett's old name according to this EU. But as The movie's progressed and EU progressed this all got messed up. So bassically That Jaster Mareel was Boba Fett's old name has now been changed to Boba Fett not being on Concord Dawn at all but that they are two totally diferent people. It's starting to make sense now. George Lucas' Boba Fett is just as interesting in personality and stuff like that, but George Ludas' Boba Fett doesn't do much exept capture Han and then die. And George did intend for Fett to die there. Fans just loved him so much and didn't want to accept his fate they decided to write about him and that he didn't died. And they made it very believable. But I did read a quote of George Lucas on the Boba Fett fan site, and it said that he was supposed to die. EU did also expand on Boba's personality, and I don't know if Lucas would have made him turn out that way. It would have been cool if Lucas had written an EU on his own characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Could it be possible that Boba Fett took on the name of Jaster Mereel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 NO. Because Jaster Mareel (the real one who died before Boba was born) was born on Concord Dawn and then Exiled from Concord Dawn for Murder. Which is the exact same thing that this EU is saying happend to Boba. Which is just all messed up on many levels. But's it's okay now, it's just a simple mistake which is to be disregarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 It's not a mistake, though. Lucas "wrote over" the existing EU when he wrote the prequels, and I'm pretty sure that EU publications have to go through some screening for continuty (except the "infinities" stories, of which Tales of the Bounty Hunters is one, but the same Boba story shows up in a lot of the official EU) George really should have written (and released) backstories for more of his characters. "Goggle eyes" and "Walrus Man" are the unfortunate results of a lack of background. I guess he didn't anticipate the success of Star Wars. Jabba the Hut (note: hut, not hutt) is one of the most unfortunate stories in the whole mess. Lucas had written in Jabba as a character, but had never expanded him to include appearance and motive. In a now infamous comic book (from the period between ANH and ESB) Jabba had the appearance of one of the cantina patrons and made up with Han Solo after he dumped his spice (I don't recall the reason for the spice dumping). Look it up on google and you'll get the idea... http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/feature/20030502/img/mosep_bg.jpg -Edit- Here's a little more from the source: http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/feature/20030502/indexp6.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 I doubt lucas just ruined the EU's background on Boba. George did say in an interview that he had a history for his characters thought up before acctually writing the story. Sure he changed some stuff and made it all official later but it was all there from the begining in his mind. And it doesn't really matter, there is no "Real" fiction. It's all just make believe. Someone else made another story using his characters and following his plans as best they could. But it's his story and what he decides is real. It's funny how we go about looking for what really happened to characters when none of it is real. They are just stories. I like EU as well as George Lucas' StarWars. But George's starwars is his starwars. And anything else is just somthing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 You're right. I just wish Lucas had let some of his ideas out of his noggin before the whole EU/Film Canon debate got started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 It isn't all that different from any of us writing our own stories with his characters. Take my Concord Dawn story in the story forum for example. Yeah, I guess it's a whole lot simpler than I first anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 THis is one of the reason why I don't like Ep. II. I loved the Boba Fett story in that book, and I didn't like how Boba's supposed to be a clone. I don't like it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 I like Boba's being a clone just fine, it's his death in ep6 that bugs me. I just can't wait for all the EU about his life between ep2 and 6 I know there already is some but I mean some serious stuff. I think when I'll older I'll write a novel about Boba Fett, perhaps at the peak of his career. When he was establishing his reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 I'm very cunfuzered...wtf is EU? And..the..huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 EU = Expanded Universe. All the book and things that wern't written by Lucas. @Mandalorian Boba didn't die, remember in the book? He got spit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 Ya I know, have that book. but George Lucas said he intended Boba Fett to die. But the fans loved him so much they wrote that he lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 if you believe that rubbish about george having the whole backstory for the 1st three films planned out in advance then you should download the early versions of the scripts. No only are they rubbish, totally different and with entirely different backstories... but the prequels don't even link continuity wise with the original trilogy. You would think if he had had the basic plot ideas for 30 years he would have ironed out a few more kinks by now (or at least made a better plot ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Originally posted by Mandalorian54 Ya I know, have that book. but George Lucas said he intended Boba Fett to die. But the fans loved him so much they wrote that he lived. Well.........Lucas is Stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 if you believe that rubbish about george having the whole backstory for the 1st three films planned out in advance then you should download the early versions of the scripts. No only are they rubbish, totally different and with entirely different backstories... but the prequels don't even link continuity wise with the original trilogy. You would think if he had had the basic plot ideas for 30 years he would have ironed out a few more kinks by now (or at least made a better plot ) Do you have a link to this early version? Do I have to download it to look at it? Cuz I don't want to download it. It doesn't matter, what was finally published is what matters. You can't say it's not legit cuz it was altered before release. It's sience fiction we're talking about here. what's wrong with the plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Payne Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Hi all, I know what happens... In first scripts Boba was known as Jaster, Later was changed, but it still have sense. Jaster was the murderer exiled turned mandalorian. In Open Seasons #2 we see what happens to him (or in the game Bounty Hunter) He dies , well after Jango took the leadership of the Mandalorian he also change his boba coloured armor armor to a red/black that resembles Jaster's. So someone out of the Mandalorians may easily(?) mistake Jango and Jaster, then Jango becomes a Bounty Hunter (with the silver/blue armor). we see what happened to him in AOTC. Now boba looks Just the same as Jango and for Coincidency(?) he has the same color scheme that Jango's first armor so he is mistaken with Jaster as "Was his older name" instead of "There's three generations of Mandalorians". So even now with this Change all fits in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 Ya it kinda does fit, except....The Tales of the Bounty Hunters book says Boba did exactly what Jaster did. And that can be no coincidental mistake of a name. Unless..... It is telling what happened to Jaster, and that now this Jaster is thought to be Boba. That would make sense. By the way Master Payne would you have any urls to good sites where I can read up on this whole issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Master Payne took the words out of my mouth It's all about Fett being mysterious. Anf confusing his enemies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 Boba Fett I read up on it here ^ and found this quite useful to explaining the mix up between sevral contradictory EU explanations of his orgin. According To George Lucas, Fett never was Jaster, only possibly confused by some (characters in the star wars univers, and authors of EU) to be/have been Jaster Mareel. I now know the real story and am glad to have gotten that mix up off my chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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