rad-x Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/reviews/1985197.stm I can't believe it. Just looking at some of those comments, it really does prove that SW fans who saw 4, 5 and 6 when they were young, are totally prejudiced against these films. And it's near impossible to see why. What is it all about? To be honest, I think it's sickening and proves that only the young and the people who've never seen a SW movie before can give a fair review. Unfair? Prove me wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Bah. Forgive me if I don't follow the link. I've seen way too much of that Prequel-bashing since 1999. Personally, I blame the EU for a lot of their prejudice. And I can almost understand it. They invested a lot of time reading these misguided books and a lot of them were expecting the EU to heavily influence the Prequels. When it turned out Lucas was going another way--his way--they freaked out. They look at the OT through Rose Colored glasses, thinking they know everything there is to know about it, both through personal reflection and by reading the EU. Then, the Prequels start to explain the OT, and it turns out things happened completely differently than they'd imagined. And they're closed off to these new revelations, and they doubt them, they say they don't fit--but they do. Just not in the way they expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 The prequels aren't really bad. It may not even be EU that's doing this. Tha story is fine and all. However... You do not get the same feeling when watching the OT and watching the PT. It's that feelingt that's missing in the PT. We were all sad when Ben died, when Anakin died and happy when Palpatine got thrown into the core. Well in the PT you just don"t get these feelings(except for Qui-Gon's death). When Maul died we were all...eh...when Jango died...the same...when Shmi died...well...didn't feel a thing... If we all want to see the PT it's because we want to know the story that's all. 'cause I've watched the OT like 40 times and still can't get bored. While I have to say something else for the PT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk They look at the OT through Rose Colored glasses, thinking they know everything there is to know about it, both through personal reflection and by reading the EU. Then, the Prequels start to explain the OT, and it turns out things happened completely differently than they'd imagined. And they're closed off to these new revelations, and they doubt them, they say they don't fit--but they do. Just not in the way they expected. wasn't Expanted Universe only talking after the sixth episode and the gaps between 4-5-6 ??? ----------------- Personally i LOVE episode 2...it's as perfect as the first trilogy...and a i like the first episode for what it is...a prologue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 wasn't Expanted Universe only talking after the sixth episode and the gaps between 4-5-6 ??? The EU stories (before the Prequels began to be released) mostly took place after and between the movies, yes. But those storied also delved into forbidden territory to explain the history of their original characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 you hit my curiocity button Can you tell me one example which lucas used a very different way as the Expanted said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another_trooper Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 The "old" ppl (dont get offended) have another perception of SW. The originals were much more focused on the story and the characters. The prequels are more the modern action type movie that "young" ppl are used to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Actually the Prequels focus on character and story just as much as the Originals. Theyre just different, theyre political and complicated where the OT was strait forward and you always knew who the bad guy was, no politics. Its like watching a movie about the 70s and then watching one about the 2000s. They are different, plain and simple. The older people expected the PT to be just like the OT which is foolish. But they are both of the same quality. Imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rad-x Posted August 1, 2003 Author Share Posted August 1, 2003 The thing that I disliked about TPM, was that dialogue was only used for giving new information, with the sad exception of "The Negotiations were short." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Off the top of my head... no Bevel Limelisk, no Maw Installation... no Cu'unthor (this huge ship that served as the EU version of the Jedi Temple)... a completely different telling of the Clone Wars in which the clones were basically always the bad guys and were being controlled by their makers, called Clone Masters... The Clone Wars take place at least 10 years earlier in the EU... Boba Fett, of course, has a completely different origin... as do R2 and 3PO... Owen Lars is not Obi-Wan's brother... Anakin looses his arm in a duel with Dooku, not in a duel with Luke, or the crash of his TIE/ADV... The Republic has only existed for 1000 years, not 2500... The precepts of the Jedi Order are very different. The most obvious of these changes is the notion that a Jedi cannot fall in love... There are alot of other things, but those're the things that stand out at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Man that makes me glad that I didnt read a lot of the EU. Im glad my first experience was the canon version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMuffin Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I really liked the prequels, but I was disappointed by one thing : Where the he** is my space battle??? I want my ISDs @ Jedi_Monk : IMO, the movie is great. Don't forget that EU is not really official (as far as I know, but I'm not an EU fan, so don't flame plz). Lucas represented his view of the clone wars (it's probably not the best, but it's good). Originally posted by another_trooper The "old" ppl (dont get offended) have another perception of SW. The originals were much more focused on the story and the characters. The prequels are more the modern action type movie that "young" ppl are used to expect. I have to agree with you here. The best example is probably the Jedi/Sith battles. In Ep456, the duelers actually knew themselves and talked during the fight. In Ep1, it's just fight, fight, fight. Ep2 is better (some interation between Obi and Dooku), but is still far from the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another_trooper Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Originally posted by Darth54 I have to agree with you here. The best example is probably the Jedi/Sith battles. In Ep456, the duelers actually knew themselves and talked during the fight. In Ep1, it's just fight, fight, fight. Ep2 is better (some interation between Obi and Dooku), but is still far from the original. Have to ? You make it sound hard to do:D Ep2 jedi battle was okay because there was yoda in it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 personally for me episode one sucked and blowed. the only thing that saved it was the lightsaber battles. Episode 2 was great, i loved the whole darkness falling theme that was going on. I can't wait for Episode 3 when the darkness has consumed anakin completely oooooh the fun will start then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk Off the top of my head... no Bevel Limelisk, no Maw Installation... no Cu'unthor (this huge ship that served as the EU version of the Jedi Temple)... a completely different telling of the Clone Wars in which the clones were basically always the bad guys and were being controlled by their makers, called Clone Masters... The Clone Wars take place at least 10 years earlier in the EU... Boba Fett, of course, has a completely different origin... as do R2 and 3PO... Owen Lars is not Obi-Wan's brother... Anakin looses his arm in a duel with Dooku, not in a duel with Luke, or the crash of his TIE/ADV... The Republic has only existed for 1000 years, not 2500... The precepts of the Jedi Order are very different. The most obvious of these changes is the notion that a Jedi cannot fall in love... There are alot of other things, but those're the things that stand out at the moment. ouaou....Lucas has really made many changes... I wonder if the writers of those had anything to say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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