SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 17, 2003 Posted December 17, 2003 STEP 1:go to pcgamemods.com and download Desert War BETA 1.5! STEP 2:Go Online and play it with people! Lots of people! Thouroughly! STEP 3:Come back and give any ideas or suggestions for me to add/change you would like to see done. ---------------------------------------------- Please i need people to beta this for me and give me some feedback. give me what you would like to see in it and ill add it please NO replys like "this sucks, my suggestion is make a new map" or "add mor eyekandy" if you suggest something, BE SPECIFIC like "add a sandcrawler" or "change the switches so they make noise like a beep when you press them". thanks!
GothiX Posted December 17, 2003 Posted December 17, 2003 ter·rain, n. - An area of land; - A particular geographic area; a region: a guide who knows this terrain well. -The surface features of an area of land. That specific enough then, dammit?
Pnut_Man Posted December 17, 2003 Posted December 17, 2003 I looked over the map and these were my initial impressions: 1) Poor architecture 2) Desperate need of more textures. It's a good first attempt. I appreciate that you tried balancing out some of the ships, but this just seems like a 'bunch of features stuffed into one' kinda deal. I'll post more comments once i've actually tested the file out itself.
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 17, 2003 Author Posted December 17, 2003 gothic, i already told you, no terrain. stop it. terrain would interfere with the vehicles, besides, its a desrt plateau/mesa, its supposed to be flat. anyon kn ow how i can add a sandscrawler?
GothiX Posted December 18, 2003 Posted December 18, 2003 Where the hell did you ever find a flat desert? Tell me, so I can wake you from that dream. And sandcrawlers are built with brushes.
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 18, 2003 Author Posted December 18, 2003 Texas, You arrogant Fool! Desert - (deh zurr tuh) - any large, extremely dry area of land with sparse vegetation. It is one of the Earth's major types of ecosystems, supporting a community of distinctive plants and animals specially adapted to the harsh environment. - Encyclopaedia Britannica .com http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=127607&tocid=0&query=desert&ct= Mesa - (may suh) - (Spanish: “table”), flat-topped tableland with one or more steep sides, common in the Colorado Plateau regions of the United States; a butte is similar but smaller. Both are formed by erosion; during denudation, or downcutting and stripping, areas of harder rock in a plateau act as flat protective caps for portions of underlying land. - Encyclopaedia Britannica .com http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=53501&tocid=0&query=mesa&ct=
GothiX Posted December 18, 2003 Posted December 18, 2003 Did you look at the pictures with those links? Did you see the hills? Good. Did you look at your map? Did you find hills? No? So make them.
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 18, 2003 Author Posted December 18, 2003 its on a mesa! its flat! hills would interfere with the vehicles, and make the compile time go forever!
The Truthful Liar Posted December 18, 2003 Posted December 18, 2003 Originally posted by gothicX Did you look at the pictures with those links? Did you see the hills? Good. Did you look at your map? Did you find hills? No? So make them. Let the creator make his map. He's not your bitch.
mknote Posted December 19, 2003 Posted December 19, 2003 I'm ready to begin work on the map file. Just PM me when it's up. If you can't upload it where I said on pcgamemods, upload it where you can. I should have it fixed by New Year's at the latest. MK
GothiX Posted December 19, 2003 Posted December 19, 2003 I never said he was "my bitch". I just hate it when people don't listen to other, mroe professional editors. (I'm not referring to myself, but to Sine Nomen and Vedder, in this case.)
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 19, 2003 Author Posted December 19, 2003 no, you just hate it when people dont listen to YOU, or try to tell you something and then you DEMAND that the do it YOUR way. now shut up and stop talking, because each time you open your mouth, you prove you ignorance.
mknote Posted December 19, 2003 Posted December 19, 2003 Guys, GUYS! Stop this bickering before a mod comes in and closes this thread. Who cares what somebody ment? Is it worth getting banned? Just my $0.02. MK
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 19, 2003 Author Posted December 19, 2003 youre right mk, ill stop. gothikx, im not adding terrain because: 1. it would interfere with the vehicles, especially with the speed that the speeder bike goes at. 2. its set on a mesa, which is supposed to be flat. 3. i tried adding terrain already, it just throws the compile time to heck and it never finishes compiling (i waited 2 days for it to finish, and it still hadnt even gotten past the first part). that is why im not adding terrain. (thank you for the input tho)
Eldritch Posted December 19, 2003 Posted December 19, 2003 Terrain shouldn't take that long to compile if done properly. If it's taking an extremely long time, perhaps you've done something wrong. On a side note - even a Mesa is not completely flat. Nothing that's naturally made truly is. You don't have to make huge rolling hills as a Mesa is supposed to be mostly flat, but some small slight variations would not cause any problems with the speeder. Other maps have used terrain in combination with speeders and they worked just fine (even the more extreme terrain). Also, I don't think you can ask for ideas and suggestions and then get pissed when someone makes one you don't like. It's a fair point. Flat looks fake - you can do small terrain without interfering with the vehicles.
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 19, 2003 Author Posted December 19, 2003 i tweaked the speeder to go reEELy fast tho, like super blindingly fast. i tried making small terrain, but it still kiled the compile time, and also, messed with the bases because the brushes of the terrain would stick up thru the floor of the base.
GothiX Posted December 19, 2003 Posted December 19, 2003 Then you flatten the terrain there.. Also, the super-fast speeders don't improve gameplay, because they're hard to hit.
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 19, 2003 Author Posted December 19, 2003 yeah, maybe i should slow it down a bit. what would be a realistic speed that would be slow enough?
wedge2211 Posted December 19, 2003 Posted December 19, 2003 Make sure any terrain brushes you have are detail brushes. Also make sure they have caulk on their unseen faces. If they poke up through other brushes, move or clip them! I've compiled huge terrains in under 10 minutes, so I'm not sure what you're doing wrong. I don't think that terrain would interfere with the vehicles, so much as make piloting them more interesting. Force people to steer a little. Provide things to dodge behind. You know.
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 19, 2003 Author Posted December 19, 2003 the default speed is too slow. it takes like 5 mins to get to the other base with the default speed.
Eldritch Posted December 20, 2003 Posted December 20, 2003 It can't literally take 5 minutes to drive to the other base. Besides, think of it this way - if it's just a flat area, what cover does that provide from enemy fire? Someone good with a gun could just take them out on that long, flat stretch. And if you were to compensate for that by making the speeders ultra fast, it makes the gameplay unbalanced.
SD_Radical_Ed Posted December 20, 2003 Author Posted December 20, 2003 my map takes up the ENTIRE gtk radiant grid. 5min might be a little exaggerated, more like 3 i guess...
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