DK_Viceroy Posted August 23, 2004 Posted August 23, 2004 SWGB for all it's faults isn't that bad a game compared to what i've heard of about force commander
DarthMuffin Posted August 23, 2004 Posted August 23, 2004 Originally posted by DK_Viceroy SWGB for all it's faults isn't that bad a game compared to what i've heard of about force commander To say the truth, FC is not *that* bad. Sure the "command points" system sucks, the graphics are below average and the gameplay is mediocre, but it's still fun to do the campaigns (IMO). The multiplayer is bad though. I'm really impressed by the scenario (I mean, SP campaigns) community of SWGB. Out of nostalgia, I checked the scenario design forums at heavengames and... wow... just wow. There are some extremely talented people out there, and what they can do with such an old engine is amazing. I even downloaded a couple to check them out. So if there are any new players reading this, check this out!
Darth Windu Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Well in terms of games, it really isnt unusual for there to be two companies involved. For example, RoN was created by Big Huge Games and published by Microsoft. Star Trek Elite Force, Star Trek Elite Force 2, Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy were all created by Raven and published by Activision. Actually speaking of that, im kinda annoyed at them. A few months ago i had the chance to buy either JA or KotOR for $50AUD, so i bought JA. Now, KotOR is still around $70 while Activision has included JA in it's $10 game line-up.
FroZticles Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 I had the opposite to you Windu I bought Kotor for $90 and JA was also around there at the time. Now JA is $10 so I'm gonna buy that now
Admiral Vostok Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Well, getting back to the original question I'd have to say that the one thing I would add is decent support from LA. Though in all honesty SWGB probably doesn't need any more support, as it's well balanced and has a random map generator and scenario editor...
DK_Viceroy Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 I could point out a few tweaks that should be done, Like nerfing A-wings and giving the confederacy Adv Power Packs. as well as making the upgrade to elite geonosian warrior actuallt do something because as of the moment it doesn't actually do anything.
Admiral Vostok Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 Well I don't think A-Wings need nerfing at all, despite being on the receiving end of pbguy's A-Wings every week. SWGB is pretty well balanced, really.
FroZticles Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 The only balance issue is probably the A-wing could use a nerf. LA like to take the game out first go if that fails they release one or two patches so additional support is not needed.
DK_Viceroy Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 If it's perfect then what does the upgrade to Elite Geonosian Warrior do? It seems to do nothing no stat change no sheilds no nothing.
Admiral Vostok Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 That isn't a balance issue though. Sure, it's a little strange that the Geonosian Warrior doesn't get upgraded all that much, but it hardly disadvantages or unbalances the Confederacy. The Geonosian Warrior is good enough without the upgrade.
DK_Viceroy Posted August 26, 2004 Posted August 26, 2004 Ys but it should at least be adressed since making it a little better would give the confederacy an advantage to offset the fact that it doesn#t get Adv Blaster Packs which is strange for a supposedly trooper strong civ.
Admiral Vostok Posted August 26, 2004 Posted August 26, 2004 The Confederacy doesn't get Advanced Power Packs because Droid Upgrades effectively replaces it. By the same token, Gungans don't get Integrated Rangefinders because Farseein Binoculars effectively replaces it. I'll admit the upgrade to Elite Geonosian Warrior does nothing, but the only reason to change that would be so the research isn't a waste of resources, not because the Confederacy is deficient in anti-infantry weaponry.
DK_Viceroy Posted August 26, 2004 Posted August 26, 2004 Maybe it should give the Geo an actual range instead of being a quasi Aerial melee especially since it is what you would say canonocinal with the films for it to have an attack like that maybe a boost against jedi?
Admiral Vostok Posted August 26, 2004 Posted August 26, 2004 Both those suggestions would be decent (+1 range, bonus against Jedi). Are the Geonosian Warriors already good against Jedi (since their attack is yellow, like Bounty Hunters). If not they probably should be, though not as good as bounty hunters, and unable to detect like Bounty Hunters too.
FroZticles Posted August 27, 2004 Posted August 27, 2004 Since there attack is yellow..... Like Bounty hunters.....????
Admiral Vostok Posted August 27, 2004 Posted August 27, 2004 Yeah, most of the attacks in the game are colour coded. Red is good against infantry, blue is good against mechs, green is good all around (except for when it comes from a TIE Fighter or Gunship) and yellow is good against Jedi/Sith (except for the Geonosian Warrior's attack).
FroZticles Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 Ohhhh I thought you were talking bout the movies.... Jedi Starfighters are not good against mechs with there blue laser.
Admiral Vostok Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 Originally posted by FroZticles Jedi Starfighters are not good against mechs with there blue laser. That's true, but as I indicated there are some exceptions. Perhaps if the Geonosian Warriors were made decent against Jedi it would be a bit overpowering. As it is, Bounty Hunters are fine because Jedi can run up and chop them. But if you had a swarm of Geonosians, Jedi wouldn't stand a chance. So perhaps it's better that they don't get a bonus against Jedi.
lukeiamyourdad Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 Hmmm...Geonosian Warriors do get a stat change when upgraded. I think it's +5 to their HP. Besides, they're good enough to litteraly eat infantry and workers. They're far from useless.
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