Darth333 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I think the influence system is a good idea in itself but that the way it has been implemented leads to more frustration than anything else IMHO . You have to gain sufficient influence to be able to unlock convos with your party members otherwise you'll hear them repeating the same thing over and over and you'll even miss convos that give you important information to understand the main plot. To do this you need to constantly switch your party members (when possible) and run around trying to find the triggers that will unlock the dialogue or you'll get the same convos over and over. This is especially difficult since the game puts you many times in control of Party members you didn't chose. If you don't, you reach the end of the game with a single big question: "How did I get there?" If there is a Kotor 3, i wish they use a sort of dual system that would combine what they did in Kotor 1 and 2: have new converstations that trigger when you level up and add the influence factor in it but not to lock dialogues that explain the main plot or something that locks up any possible interaction with party members. I wish that if they lock convos, it would be more about knowing you character's deepest personal secrets, like Juhani and the Slavers (if you don't learn it you don't miss anything of the main plot). I was more imagining influence to be something like in Kotor 1, where you could convince Mission to forgive to her brother or to wish he gets beaten up and where you have LS and DS options. For me, the only thing that was missing there was the ability to change Mission's alignment . ...another thing to mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborgninja Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I agree in Kotor one mission is my least favorite character and I was playing as a male darkside consular and I made her hate him then i made zalbarr eat the hoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Originally posted by Darth333 I think the influence system is a good idea in itself but that the way it has been implemented leads to more frustration than anything else IMHO . Agreed. I really like the concept but it needed a bit more tweaking & polish. Hopefully the PC release will be a bit more complete/thought out in the influence aspect. Or it already is in it's current form & I just missed it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beel2112 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Originally posted by Darth333 I think the influence system is a good idea in itself but that the way it has been implemented leads to more frustration than anything else IMHO . Yeah, it's a cool idea that had at best a "fair" implementation. The thing I liked best was that it encouraged you to swap party members around--no more running around with the same 2 people all the time. I like your idea--have the conversations tied to leveling, and have influence open up further dialogue within the conversation trees. Maybe have the influence tied in with the special feats that certain party members give you. Like Atton's +1 Willpower save, Handmaiden's "Add Wisdom modifer to defense" (Battle Awareness or Recognition or something...), and Visas' Force Sight. That'd be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfanatic Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 The one thing that bothers me, is that if you do something nice, only one NPC will respond to it, in Kotor I both of your party members will react to certain situations i.e getting the sandrals and the matales to kill eachother, muwhahahahaha In this game, only one does, and then you don't gain influence for both. All in all, I really like it, especially since you can "convert" them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonzai Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I agree completely, Darth333. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Originally posted by Darth333 I think the influence system is a good idea in itself but that the way it has been implemented leads to more frustration than anything else IMHO. I agree, lots of incredible potential wasted as far as I'm concerned, not enough NPC influence opportunities, lots of dead end dialogues and lost opportunities because of such, in its current state to be any good. Yet another thing we modders will have to "fix." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrak Ujhade Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 yes darth333 hit it on the dot. it is an interesting yet frusterating new addition to the game but I think it just needs to grow in future installment(s) plus its so annoying trying to get anything out of Bao-Durr, even more so making him a jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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