Venom750 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I have a question. How many jedi do you think were on Katarr i known of at less three Dorak, Zhar and Vandar if your LS P:S i aplogise for the lack of spoilers i keep forgetting how to put them in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Use spoiler in brackets (these things => [ ]) at the beginning and then /spoiler in brackets at the end. To answer your question, I don't think they ever tell us. We know it an emergency conclave, but we don't get a specific number at any point (that I recall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I got the impression that... ...all remaining Jedi convened on Katarr to try to figure out this new threat. All except Atris, Kavar, Vash, Vrook and Zez-Kai Ell, for varying reasons. Thus it's only you and those 5 left with any Jedi training at the start of the game. (And Kreia of course.) The game says that "barely a hundred" Jedi remained after the end of the war against Malak. And after the war the forces of Sion, Traya and Nihilus were preying on those few as well, reducing their number even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 ^^^^ Kudos to someone that paid more attention than I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 The Dantooine Jedi Council, when Malak's Attack happened, they clearly imply all the jedi but Vandar died. In Kotor2 they show Vrook lived too. Vandar dies if you fall to the darkside on Kotor1. All the masters say Atris was on Katarr, as they were suprised. Maybe She was. Maybe Atris died on Katarr and was replaced by a Fake Atris on Telos to help Nihilus for bringing all the jedi together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Not to mention that all of Katar was made up of Force-sensitives... Not all Jedi, but some may have been and like Visas, some may have been Dark Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mira Dona Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 The Dantooine Jedi Council, when Malak's Attack happened, they clearly imply all the jedi but Vandar died. In Kotor2 they show Vrook lived too. Vandar dies if you fall to the darkside on Kotor1. All the masters say Atris was on Katarr, as they were suprised. Maybe She was. Maybe Atris died on Katarr and was replaced by a Fake Atris on Telos to help Nihilus for bringing all the jedi together. No, I don't think the Atris on Telos was a fake. I suspect that she wasn't on Katarr due to being busy creating and maintaining the new academy on Telos, as well as securing the artifacts which she had spirited away prior to the attack on Dantooine. After all, the other masters were suprised to find that Atris was alive and had made a new academy. Reading the chorinicles over at: http://www.lucasarts.com/games/swkotor_sithlords/indexLight.html Gives a good idea on what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom750 Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 Do you think Jolee or Juhani were on Katarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mira Dona Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Do you think Jolee or Juhani were on Katarr That, I think, is anybodies guess. While I certainly hope they weren't and are still living during TSL, I really wouldn't be surprised if they were. However, I got the impression, for one reason or another, from TSL that it was only the Jedi Masters and members of the council that were on Katar. But with such sparse information that was given, again it really is anybodies guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montnoir Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Beware! Spoilers below! I think the Jedi used Katarr as a ruse to sneak away (no one would look for them if they believed them dead). The masters tell the Exile as much and they do admit that, many Jedi are in hiding - this because of a plan to flush out the secret enemy, that they had a hard time sensing. They just don't trust the Exile to tell him the entire truth. So you shouldn't be worried about the Jedi being dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Jolee seemed to pretty much operate on his own, and I doubt he would have felt the need to go to Katarr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mira Dona Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Jolee seemed to pretty much operate on his own, and I doubt he would have felt the need to go to Katarr... I have always (in my own little world) felt like Jolee, Mission, Zalaabar, and Juhani would be chasing after Revan trying to find her. In other words, they would be in the unknown regions, during the events of Katarr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Jolee seemed to pretty much operate on his own, and I doubt he would have felt the need to go to Katarr...Agreed. Not only that, but depending on how you played the first game he might not have even been living when the meeting took place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 ...would be chasing after Revan trying to find her. You mean him, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mira Dona Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 You mean him, don't you? Actually no, her is deffinately what I meant. I thought EVERYONE but LA knew Revan was female Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SITHSLAYER133 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Jolee the type of GUY WHO DOSNT GIVE A **** BOUT ANYTHIN ANY MORE I RECKON HE HAS BECOME A HERMIT ON ANOTHER PLANET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom750 Posted August 13, 2005 Author Share Posted August 13, 2005 But if Jolee sensed a reason for him to be needed like the final fight between the true sith and the last of the Jedi the he probarly come out and fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 But if Jolee sensed a reason for him to be needed like the final fight between the true sith and the last of the Jedi the he probarly come out and fight.Might be hard to do if you killed him in the first game . OE was very careful not to include anyone from the first game that might have been killed off. The obvious exceptions were Bastila and Carth, simply because they were so integral to KotOR. With this in mind, I seriously doubt that any effort will be made to include Mission, Zaalbar, Jolee, or Juhani in KotOR III. Further speculation on this matter really seems pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mira Dona Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Further speculation on this matter really seems pointless. For Darksiders perhaps, but what of those who traveled the lightside? For us our entire party was still alive at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus Kyros Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 I'd like to know what happened to them since I'm following the Light Side story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 That is the problem because you can kill them on the DS path, the game has to take both paths into account even if you played only LS, it would be quite difficult, if not impossible to integrate them accurately into the game. It would be a play testing and debugging nightmare to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastila Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 About the jedi, there are mostly dead who knows whats happen to Jolee or Juine, and in TSL they say the ones you find are the last and the sith are hunting them as well, but then you get Bastila aren't they hunting her to as well. just thinking out loud really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 well notice if you say Revan was dark, Carth disapears. hes replaced by a black guy. Its well hinted that Jolee Died of old age. or died of something. What was he, 60? 70? in kotor? well this is 10 years after Kotor 1. Juhani, well shes just poof. there was dialog for her to actually fall back down to teh darkside, i beleve someone made a mod to reveal it, where Juhani attacks Jolee. we may never know, if its storyline they dont appear, or time managment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 For Darksiders perhaps, but what of those who traveled the lightside? For us our entire party was still alive at the end. That's correct but the devs have to make a game that makes sense from both sides of the Force. The conversation with Atton at the beginning of TSL to determine KotOR gameplay was fairly unobtrusive, but what if you had to have 2 or 3 of these converstations? At some point you have to leave the previous games behind and focus on the game at hand. If the characters could have been dead at the end, then the devs have to write the game in such a way that they are not around but you don't really know why. Does that make sense now, or am I just confusing the matter? EDIT: Yeah, what RH said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 maybe at the end there when the celebration is happening, maybe Bastila Carth HK-47 T3-M4 and Revan get on the ebon hawk fly away while the others prepare to take off on a republic ship... but then suddenly Wreckage of the Starforge comes down and destroys them all!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.