Darth Alec Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Maybe the jedi have misread the prophecy, and that to make the force in balance, there cannot be to much light or to much darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Maybe the jedi have misread the prophecy, and that to make the force in balance, there cannot be to much light or to much darkness. Except Lucas has gone on to say the prophecy was fulfilled and Anakin is indeed the chosen one. The line in RoTS was merely the jedi realizing things aren't exactly going as planned, and perhaps everything else they believe (namely the prophecy) is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Except Lucas has gone on to say the prophecy was fulfilled and Anakin is indeed the chosen one. The line in RoTS was merely the jedi realizing things aren't exactly going as planned, and perhaps everything else they believe (namely the prophecy) is wrong. Exactly. A lot of people have problems understanding what is revealed in RotS because they take everything they hear (like Yoda's speculation and Sidious's lies) as fact, and forgetting what all the other movies reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Vader Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Wrong, wrong, wrong, all wrong. Anakin did bring balance to the force, go watch RoTJ again. Notice him throw Palpatine off the catwalk into the generator, observe him fight the conflict within him winning out over Vader moments before. I still disagree. Anakin brings balance to the Force by killing the emperor and fulfilling the prophecy BECAUSE of Luke's influence. Were it not for Luke's pleading, Vader would not feel conflict in himself causing him to turn again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 @ Lady Vader: That doesn't make Luke the chosen one, it just makes him an instrument that helps the chosen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Apparently some people have forgotten the "concieved by the midichlorians" part. Remember, it was Padme and Anakin who birthed Luke. I sort of thought most people would know that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Vader Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Apparently some people have forgotten the "concieved by the midichlorians" part. Remember, it was Padme and Anakin who birthed Luke. I sort of thought most people would know that by now. Indeed. Most people DO know that. And the point is...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Make this thread a Poll so we can finally end this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Indeed. Most people DO know that. And the point is...? That the Chosen One is concieved by the midiclorians, not by a mother and father. Therefore Luke is clearly not the Chosen One. Pay closer attention to TPM. Is there any real point to this thread anyway? It's already been confirmed by George Lucas himself that Anakin is indeed the Chosen One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 By the same logic as saying Luke is the chosen one, you can say that Obi-Wan or Yoda were chosen one because they helped him become a Jedi so that he could confront Vader and help him fulfill the Prophecy. Anakin is the chosen one. Lady Vader, why do you think that he isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Vader Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 By the same logic as saying Luke is the chosen one, you can say that Obi-Wan or Yoda were chosen one because they helped him become a Jedi so that he could confront Vader and help him fulfill the Prophecy. Anakin is the chosen one. Lady Vader, why do you think that he isn't? Luke was 'strong in the Force', so I think he would have eventually become a Jedi Knight even without Obi-Wan's and Yoda's influence. Luke was referred to as "the last hope". However, since Lucas already confirmed that Anakin is the One, there is no point in arguing it I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediConsularAD Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Ok al i can say is that anakin did brinng balance to the force, in rotj all the existing sith are destroyed and the jedi are extint nearly, A balance is struck through luke, if you watch he wears dark clothes like his father and wasnt really properly trained so he is balanced in a way. this theory could be wrong and mabye luke is going slightly dark and leia will be light, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 ^ If anybody mentions that Luke did fall to the Dark Side, I'm going to scream. Stupid EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediConsularAD Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 i wasnt saying he fell to the dark side i was just saying that he was perhaps slighty less light than other jedi and so could have a balance struck through him, like hes a grey jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Vader Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 ^ If anybody mentions that Luke did fall to the Dark Side, I'm going to scream. Stupid EU. What is it with this hatred of the EU? I have never quite understood that. After the movies have ended, what else is there? I for one, enjoy reading EU books, comics, fan fiction, and whatever else. So what's wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediConsularAD Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 What is it with this hatred of the EU? I have never quite understood that. After the movies have ended, what else is there? I for one, enjoy reading EU books, comics, fan fiction, and whatever else. So what's wrong with that? Yeah i gotta agree that the EU is what make star what it is, i mean its 6 amazing films that have a history of its own that i am still learning, the oficial site has a databank full of what seems like unlimited knowledge, incase anyones wondering theres scientests apparently that work on making things from star wars real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I still disagree. Anakin brings balance to the Force by killing the emperor and fulfilling the prophecy BECAUSE of Luke's influence. Were it not for Luke's pleading, Vader would not feel conflict in himself causing him to turn again. Luke was only a catalyst, he is not the chosen one. Indeed. Most people DO know that. And the point is...? Watch the movies again and stop saying stupid crap. What is it with this hatred of the EU? Most of it is stupid and contradicts much of the movies. I for one, enjoy reading EU books, comics, fan fiction, and whatever else. So what's wrong with that? Nothing, what's wrong with us having opinions of our own? Yeah i gotta agree that the EU is what make star what it is Actually that'd be the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 JediConsular, the fact that Luke wears black clothes does not bring balance to the force, the fact that the Sith exist is what unbalances it. The right amount of light and the right amount of dark also does not bring balance to the force, proven by the fact that in ANH and ESB there are an equal amount of Jedi and Sith in existence. LadyVader, perhaps you should consider the fact that alot of people don't want the ageing and death of characters from their favourite movies chronicled for them to read, and have stuff like the Yuuzhan Vong and that they conquered Coruscant ruining the ending of ROTJ for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 What's wrong with the EU? To name a few things: LUKE FALLS TO THE DARK SIDE! WHAT THE **** IS UP WITH THAT?!? THEY KILL CHEWIE! THAT IS THE STUPIDIST THING EVER! THE YUZHAN VONG? GIVE ME A BREAK! LUKE, A JEDI, GETTING MARRIED! THAT'S FORBIDDEN FOR A JEDI! THE REST OF THE NEW JEDI ORDER SERIES. I DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN ANY FURTHER. THEY CLONE THE EMPEROR! COME UP WITH A NEW VILLAIN, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! The only mildly good part of the EU was the Thrawn Trilogy, and even that had it's faults (though very few compared to the rest of the EU). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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