RobQel-Droma Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 This is something I have been a bit unsure about for a while. I know that during the clone wars, the Republic was recieving shipments of clones from Kamino, but afterwards did the Empire keep cloning more troops? Or did they just use the troops they had left? I know that they stopped using clone officers and starting recruiting, but did they do the same with the stormtroopers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Well, the clones of AotC and RotS would be in their 30's (60's-70's with the modifications.) By that time, they probably wouldn't be used too much. So I doubt they just used what they had left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/clonetroopers/?id=eu "Following the rise of the Empire, the military cloning program expanded to include new clone hosts. By the time of the Empire consolidated its power by dissolving the Senate, the ranks of the Imperial stormtroopers would include cloned infantry from multiple sources as well as birth-born conscripts and recruits from various worlds." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 So I guess it's yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Extas Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 K so they did this answers the question even before I could ask it...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soogz Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Hmm. I just thought they started recruiting random people after the Clone Wars. Guess I was wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadmiumRED Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 I don't know about the whole cloning after the Empire formed thing, because if you listen VERY closely to the stormtroopers' voices in the old movies, they all sound different and not the same, unlike the clone troopers (whereas their voices sounded the same). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 I don't know about the whole cloning after the Empire formed thing, because if you listen VERY closely to the stormtroopers' voices in the old movies, they all sound different and not the same, unlike the clone troopers (whereas their voices sounded the same). Read my post and you'll know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Andrew Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I asked generally the same question when I joined months ago: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=147006 This was in pre-Episode III days, hence all the spoiler tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well, I think 501st still use exclusively the original clone seeds/models. Don't ask me why they are still such lousy shooters though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 The EU states that they did continue to clone, also in the EU it is stated the Emperor also kept cloning facilities around so he could remain in power so to speak. Brings up another question, with the Star Wars universe being very successful in cloning, doesn't it seem weird that people get cybernetic replacements for limbs? Seems like they could just clone a body part or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Brings up another question, with the Star Wars universe being very successful in cloning, doesn't it seem weird that people get cybernetic replacements for limbs? Seems like they could just clone a body part or something. You can't clone a part, you would have to clone an entire person, and cut off his arm. I don't know about you but I wouldn't really like the sound of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 True. Added that Two-Onebee stated in Tales of the Bounty Hunters that it is illegal, they can however, genetically re-grow damaged tissue as they did with Zuckuss in the Tales of the Bounty Hunters anthology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Terros Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 You can't clone a part, you would have to clone an entire person, and cut off his arm. I don't know about you but I wouldn't really like the sound of that. Well you can grow parts i mean they managed to grow a ear on a mouse? Who's to say what they can and cant do in the GFFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 You said clone not grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Not really wanting to get too heavy handed in real life topics, the Star Wars universe MIGHT have something similar to stem cell research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord ignarn Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 If they didn´t clone all the stromtroopers, the Emperor developed a great cloning technology. Remember his clone boied, and the Spaarti cilinders he used to grow clones very quickly, as seen in the Thrawn trilogy. Also is said that he had several cloning facilities in Byss, Wayland... About the rclones in the army, in EU books, like RPG books, is shown that (during Palpatine reign) the TIE pilots , army crew members, army officials... are recruited from the no cloned people. I believe that only the stormtroopers were cloned then. And some of the old clones were used in maintenance works, as is said in the visual guide to episode 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 This is something I have been a bit unsure about for a while. I know that during the clone wars, the Republic was recieving shipments of clones from Kamino, but afterwards did the Empire keep cloning more troops? Or did they just use the troops they had left? I know that they stopped using clone officers and starting recruiting, but did they do the same with the stormtroopers? According to a George Lucas interview (a REAL one) from 2005, the Empire did indeed continue cloning troops. But, they branched out from just Jango clones (although Jango clones were still being used in the time of ANH for example*) to using multiple templates. Eventually, according to Lucas, the Empire also started mixing in non-clone conscripts into the Stormtrooper ranks. So there's your answer. Accoring to the C-Level canon ROTS Visual Dictionary released right before the movie came out, they had already started expanding into using multiple templates and more planets for clones than just Kamino about the time of Episode III. Of course we only saw two clone "faces" in Episode III, that of Temuerra Morrison and his "younger look alike" played by a different actor (Bodie Taylor, iirc). *I base the "they still had Jango clones" thing on Lucas's statement on the Episode II DVD commentary, during the scene of Jango bumping his head on the door of the Slave I. He says he wanted the audience to draw a direct connection between the head bumping in that movie and the head bumping gaffe (which he added a sound effect to, effectively canonizing a goof) in ANH, showing us that Jango's clones retained a bit of his clumsiness (rather than the old joke explanation that they really couldn't see very well in those helmets, which also was used by fans to explain some of their poor accuracy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 *I base the "they still had Jango clones" thing on Lucas's statement on the Episode II DVD commentary, during the scene of Jango bumping his head on the door of the Slave I. He said in another interview that yeah, there's a lot of Jango clones still too. So yes, you would be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 This is something I have been a bit unsure about for a while. I know that during the clone wars, the Republic was recieving shipments of clones from Kamino, but afterwards did the Empire keep cloning more troops? Or did they just use the troops they had left? I know that they stopped using clone officers and starting recruiting, but did they do the same with the stormtroopers? Hint... Hint... Episode IV: A New Hope Princess: "Arn't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?" Plus, I think there were EU books that covered how the Empire runs their cloning process. The 501st were originally clones from the clone wars if I remember. Up until the Empire joined the New Republic. During 'Survivor's Quest', the 501st became deversified. Earlier in EU, the clones had there own cliche... Hehehe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Bah, there's no evidence in ANH alone that they're all clones, or even mostly clones! The Empire may simply have had a minimum height requirement, much like real life militaries. Of course we also see in ANH that Stormtroopers are clearly different heights when standing next to each other. The cloning process as described in the EU prior to AOTC (2002) had to be retconned, since it was in conflict with the new movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I would like to think that by the time of ANH they had a nice mix of clones and recruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I would like to think that by the time of ANH they had a nice mix of clones and recruits. You would be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Did they ever have recruits (as grunt Stormtroopers)? I don't remember ever hearing that they did (except what TK whispered to me when I was sleeping! hehe), taking Episode III into account... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I always believed that they did have recruits as Stormtroopers. They defiantely aren't good enough to all be clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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