How could the CIS lose?

[Darth Alec]

So what if he took massive loses against the jedi. They are droids, and they outnumber the jedi so much, that it didn't matter.

 

And rebuilding the sith order on a outback planet simply idn't the sith style. There's a reason for the rule of two.

[Redtech]

KOTOR tends to show the prob with many Sith every time you see more than 2 attempt to get along.

[Valter]

The only person in the CIS who knew Palpatine was Sidious was Dooku, I don't believe any other droid/general knew. Therefore, I don't know why Grievous DIDN'T inflict more damage on Coruscant. Sure, Dooku might have said "Don't do it," but after Dooku died, I'd get mad and order all Turbolasers to fire on the planet.

 

Heck, he could have even fired on the Jedi Temple if he didn't want to REALLY disobey the commander. Dooku wouldn't be able to object; he was a Sith, and it would have looked REALLY suspicious.

 

The planetary shield would prevent any such bombardment from succeeding.

[Kurgan]

I thought the planetary shield was down? Either because they were surprised or because it was sabotaged before the battle?

 

In any case, if it were up, wouldn't it have trapped everyone in the battle ON the planet (since they were supposedly in the upper atmosphere the whole time)?

 

Of course the planetary shield is a problem for the EU to figure out, since it's never mentioned in the movie (not that it couldn't exist, though some have tried to argue that shields that big didn't exist in the galaxy yet).

[PoiuyWired]

Well, it seems to suggest that most planetary shields would not prevent ships from foing planetside. That having said almost all ships capable of planetary bombardment are too big to get past the shields since that would require the ship to get into such a low orbit that it would fall.

[Kurgan]

Fall? C'mon, they have repulsorlifts! We know that Acclamators (which are pretty large, not as big as Imperial Star Destroyers, but darn huge) can make planetary landings (check out the end of AOTC), as can the "battleships" of the Trade Federation (see Episode I, and also the core ships in Episode II).

 

So just go into the upper atmosphere and start the bombardment. According to the ROTS novel even, there is only a small shield around the Senate building. You could devestate the planet (and the planet was devestated, if nothing else than from falling debris from the battle, again according to the novel).

 

Logic dictates they could bombard the planet if they wished.

[lil_dude]

Well the CIS may have won without any interference, in short they were all tricked by Sidious/Palpetine and then slaughtered by Anakin, who is left to lead them now? Sidious/Palpetine obviously is the only one left, and since he controls the Republic as well and has dissolved a large portion of the senate, well now he controls the whole galaxy. It's not at all that the Republic beat the CIS, it's that the CIS was betrayed from within and all were slahed down by Anakin. If we were strictly talking a war with no one playing/controlling both sides and such then the CIS would of probly won, they had greater numbers in troops and they were fairly popular among alot of systems. If you really think about it, the CIS turned out to be the true good guys, since they were fighting to end corruption(yes I know they had evil tactics as well and such, but it's war) in the senate and the galaxy and be a true democracy, while the Republic turned out to be the oppressive empire that we all know from the orginal movies.

 

quote from wookiepedia about Sidious/Palpetine

 

"During the Clone Wars, he was the secret de facto leader of the Separatists as the Sith Lord Darth Sidious, as well as the de jure leader of the Republic, allowing him to plan and execute the entire war, thus resulting in his ultimate triumph with the rise of his Empire."

 

One thing so great about the SW saga is the fact that alot of details are left open to interpretation.

[PoiuyWired]

Actually there are times that the CIS is actually Winning, if not for palpy tipping off the Republic on important intel, like the case with the cortosis droids and what not.

 

It is just that CIS is betrayed by its top (shadow) command, and most of its leaders are wimps, baring a few like Grevi, Dooku, and that Chiss hottie.

[Darth Xenus]

It was all about the Jedi, if the whole Jedi Order had been organised to fight an obvious threat (such as the CIS) their enemy wouldn't have stood a chance, as it was they had no idea who the real enemy was until it was far too late for them to do anything. Also, its far easier to control people who supported your rise to power, so Palpatine would have wanted the Republic to 'win' because it would then be easier to control the galaxy. If the CIS had 'won' then a rebellion would have sprung p much earlier.

[Prime]

If you really think about it, the CIS turned out to be the true good guys, since they were fighting to end corruption

That is what they claimed of course, but the real goal was to have more and freer control over commerce so they could line their pockets.

[lil_dude]

That is what they claimed of course, but the real goal was to have more and freer control over commerce so they could line their pockets.

 

Of course, they wanted a true capatalist and democratic galaxy. Price gouging and all.

[Prime]

not just that, they wanted to be involved with making the rules by which they had to play by.

[PoiuyWired]

Well, somethimes, "enemy of the bad guy" does not mean good guy.

[Redtech]

Oh, yes, that is exactly why we're so screwed in the war on terror...nearly all the people we're fighting are ex-allies against another enemy!

 

An enemy of an enemy is not a friend!!!