Lorden Darkblade Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Howdy everybody, it's me again and again I need help with PC parts Ok, I'm getting these: Processor: Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939 Video Card: RADEON X1300PRO 256MB or RADEON X1600XT 256MB RAM: 1GB (2x512) Kingston Ok, my problem is I don't know what motherboard to get, I was thinking about getting an ASUS A8N-E but I keep hearing of incompatibility issues between the ASUS boards and RADEONs so now I'm lost. Please give me a help in picking a motherboard that costs 150 dollars max and can handle the parts mentioned above plus a DVD-ROM, a disk drive and 2 HDs.
manoman81 Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 I have an Asus board. Couldn't be happier with it. I had a Radeon 9200 before I upgraded to a different video. Anyways, I never had any issues with the video card. As for the newer ones, I would look at the ATI site and see if they have any docs on it. As for the various drives, just make sure you have a good enough power supply to run them and any sound and video cards you have.
BongoBob Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Yeah, make sure you get a good psu to run everything. As for that mobo, I believe it's an nForce 4 board, which means it uses nVidia technology. AFAIK, the only problem you would have is if you used 2 cards in Crossfire, which won't work on it without a nasty hack. I'd look on the mobo companies forums too.
MTV2 Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 the X1300 and the X1600 suck. u mine aswell get an nvidia 6800gs... how about the Sapphire PURE Crossfire PC-A9RD480 or the ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe...i'd prolly go for the asus IMO.
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 the X1300 and the X1600 suck. u mine aswell get an nvidia 6800gs... how about the Sapphire PURE Crossfire PC-A9RD480 or the ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe...i'd prolly go for the asus IMO. ...they don't exactly suck, although I agree with you in terms of nVidia being a better choice in terms of graphics cards. Anyways, I'd recommend that you go with an nVidia card in case you want to switch to a dual card platform later. The CrossFire motherboards on the market now suck compared to the nForce4 motherboards nVidia's putting out.
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 24, 2006 Author Posted April 24, 2006 Well the problem is that I live in Brazil, and here we can't really pick preciselly what we want. If we're too specific we simply don't find the parts... I have to get one of those, I couldn't find the GeForce 7600GT and it was the one I was after. Now onto the motherboard issue, I'm not going to get a CrossFire or SLI cuz it's too expensive for me. And if I was I would have to get a CrossFire cuz I can't find good GeForces here. I'll look on the ATI and the ASUS site for docs on incompatibility between them. meanwhile if anyone else knows of any good motherboard for that I'll be happy to hear your oppinions Oh and by the way I already plan on getting a new Power Supply with a 24-pin connector and 450W or more.
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 I think this should clear up any concern you may have about incompatibilities, check the motherboard used and the cards tested: http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/06/ati_enters_the_x1000_promised_land/page13.html
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 24, 2006 Author Posted April 24, 2006 Just to be sure, that machine used all those RADEONs in an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium right? If so the X1600XT should work with the A8N-E too right? Or any version of the A8N correct?
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 Just to be sure, that machine used all those RADEONs in an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium right? If so the X1600XT should work with the A8N-E too right? Or any version of the A8N correct? Yes, I'm fairly sure that it will work with the A8N-E (I just looked at it, I assumed it was an nForce4 SLI, but it's an nForce4 Ultra). The only time I've seen issues arise from using an ATi card with an nVidia chipset have been when one tries to implement an SLI system with a CrossFire board and visa versa.
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 24, 2006 Author Posted April 24, 2006 I see. Well thanks a lot for your help jmac. Now I'll see if I get the X1600PRO or the XT or if I can't afford those I'll see if I can get the X1300PRO.
MTV2 Posted April 25, 2006 Posted April 25, 2006 I see. Well thanks a lot for your help jmac. Now I'll see if I get the X1600PRO or the XT or if I can't afford those I'll see if I can get the X1300PRO. what are u doing with those? games? movies? what? cuz the x800 series is better then the X1k (except the x1900XT(X))... i hate ati now, they're discontinuing there x800 series but the x1k series just goes from mainstream to high-end without anything in between...just the x1300 and x1600 as the mainstream and the x1900 as the high-end...
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 25, 2006 Author Posted April 25, 2006 Well I heard the X800 can't support HDR right? Well at least that's what I heard... That the X1xxx can support HDR or something like it... I'm upgrading manly for The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, anything else I'll be able to play with that PC is just a bonus
MTV2 Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 would you give up performance for HDR? i'd say avoid the X1300 and X1600 IMO. look at some benchmarks of the 6800GS and how it racks up to the X1600...the 6800GS also has support for HDR lighting. check here --> http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2593
TiE23 Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I got the 7800GS. Runs like a xt850 but has HDR and all that good stuff. Little more expensive though, but I got the AGP version, the PCI-e is cheaper.
BongoBob Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Can't you order parts off of newegg? Because that's the only place I'll ever get computer parts.
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 26, 2006 Author Posted April 26, 2006 They don't ship to Brazil. And finding specific parts here is a pain... Took me long enough to find a place that sells the X1600PRO... And it costs 600 in here. The 6800GS is around 800 and the 7800 is 1,300... So as you can see I'm screwed lol...
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 27, 2006 Author Posted April 27, 2006 No, no... 600 in my cash. The best prices are in newegg if you ask me And besides, I can't get the 7600 cuz my monitor is kinda old and I don't see an entrance for it. My monitors connector looks like this: /___\ and the ones in the 7600 are like |_____|....| or something like it lol I don't know the names <_< I'm getting the X1600XT 256MB GDDR3/128bit.
Tokarev Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 And besides, I can't get the 7600 cuz my monitor is kinda old and I don't see an entrance for it. My monitors connector looks like this: /___\ and the ones in the 7600 are like |_____|....| or something like it lol I don't know the names <_< I'm getting the X1600XT 256MB GDDR3/128bit. The blue is VGA interface while the white is DVI which can only be used for LCDs, but video cards that feature Dual DVI should have by default a DVI to VGA adapter for standard CRT monitors.
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 27, 2006 Author Posted April 27, 2006 Ah so they come with an adapter? You sure? Cuz if you are I might try checking around the price for the 7600 again... In the first place I was going after the 7600 I don't know which version to get tho.
MTV2 Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 yes, they come with an adapter. unless otherwise stated. there should be a picture of the adapter on the box or check the "Whats in Box" or something. usually if the graphics card supports dual monitors it should come with an adapter...
Tokarev Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 Ah so they come with an adapter? You sure? Cuz if you are I might try checking around the price for the 7600 again... In the first place I was going after the 7600 I don't know which version to get tho. The Geforce 7600 GS is the slower variant with lower clock speeds and DDR2, but everything else stays the same with the 7600 GT while it is the fastest of the two cards. You will get one or two adapters, but mostly two with the video card aswell.
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 27, 2006 Author Posted April 27, 2006 Well, I managed to find the 7600GT for 126,00 more then the X1600XT in my currency. The question is, is it worth it? I mean is the 7600GT much better then the X1600XT? If needed I can post links of the parts here so you guys could tell me.
Tokarev Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 Well, I managed to find the 7600GT for 126,00 more then the X1600XT in my currency. The question is, is it worth it? I mean is the 7600GT much better then the X1600XT? If needed I can post links of the parts here so you guys could tell me. It is overall and infact the X1800GTO is the competition to 7600 GT more so then the X1600 XT is or so it would seem.
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 28, 2006 Author Posted April 28, 2006 Another quick question, does anyone know if the 7600GT can do AA+HDR? I really need to know that cuz I'm upgrading my PC mainly cuz of Oblivion And if possible I wanted to use AA+AF+HDR and I was wondering if that card would handle it. Or if at least would handle Oblivion well.
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