BongoBob Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Considering it's a really recent card with 12 pixel piplines and whatnot, I'd say with the setup you have, it would handle it quite nicely. Also, if you want, you could overclock it a wee bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 I see... And is the X1800GTO better then the 7600GT? And how does one overclock the video card? I never done that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 It all comes down to the games you play for determining what card you want. Another quick question, does anyone know if the 7600GT can do AA+HDR? No nVidia cards can do it, but supposedly doesn't matter with how HDR works anyway. ATi can do it with a "chuck" patch. As for overclocking, nVidia has the simplest solution in which you can do it from the panel, but you'll have to use a simple hack to enable it (very easy, done it before here). ATi on the other hand is in need of 3rd party programs to OC, though you can do it within the control panel, it doesn't give you enough to OC I hear. As far as overclocking the video card, you pretty much want to do it in 3-5Mhz increments and keep testing through out with several games. If it's clear, continue to push it again at the same increments until you see artifacts and/or crashing. Artifacts are disorted lines and shapes that you will notice when you OC high, so just simply take it back to the last stable OC and you are set. Keep in mind though overclocking will VOID your warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I'm actually looking into that right now, since I want to overclock my new 6600GT. From what I can tell, you use a program called Rivatuner, and adjust the clock speeds in small increments, and then test it. Once it starts artifacting, turn it back down, and leave it there. Usually you can get a good 5% performance gain from a small overclock using standard cooling. EDIT: Tie's card can do HDR and AA, and it's an nVida. 7900 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 EDIT: Tie's card can do HDR and AA, and it's an nVida. 7900 I think. Unless it's in bloom, then AA can be done. As for overclocking, you can also use coolbits reg hack aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted April 29, 2006 Author Share Posted April 29, 2006 So many issues... >_> I wish that picking a video card was easyer these days... Last question, how good is the X1800XT? lol kinda different from my old questions I know, but if I drop/change some of the items I'm going to buy I saw that I can get a X1800XT. I'm going to get, if possible, the SAPPHIRE Radeon X1800XT 256MB GDDR3/256-bits PCI-Expressx16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Make sure the AMD 64 you get is running on the Venice core, not the Winchester or Newcastle. All should be around the same price too. Venice = t3h 1337 0|\/3r(l0ck3|2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted May 3, 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2006 oh yeah, I'm getting the Venice. I'm just not too sure if I'm going to overclock it cuz I never done it before and I don't want to get all these new parts and burn them all in a week lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Well if I could, I'd OC my processor, but since it's a ****ty compaq one, I can't do it. Just read up on OCing a bit and you'll find all the info you need, even some tips for a nice low-midrange OC. Right now I have my 6600GT running smooth with stock cooling at 550 core clock / 1100 Memory Clock (10% increase from stock 500/1000 speeds), and I've gotten a significant gain from it. On Aquamark, the very last scene, the massive overdraw, at stock got at lowest 14 fps. After the oc, it goes no lower than 19 fps. I've noticed a nice little boost in Halo as well as the Half Life 2 demo. As long as you don't go from stock speeds to twice as fast in one notch up, you'll be fine. Just go up little by little and check the temps often, and you'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted May 3, 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2006 Yeah I have been trying to gather as much info about it over the net as possible while I wait for the parts. I'm just not too sure if I overclock only the processor or the processor and the video card as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 oh yeah, I'm getting the Venice. I'm just not too sure if I'm going to overclock it cuz I never done it before and I don't want to get all these new parts and burn them all in a week lol Dont worry, the Venice is capable of overclocking at lower voltages, so it'll run more stable. Ive seen people who OC their Venice up to like 2.4 GHz and still running at 1.65v, theres a possiblity they might be having better cooling though. Oh which reminds me, i just fried my XP2600 Barton last week due to voltage overclock. Well, if im lucky my parents would get me a new one at the end of the year. To overclock both the processor and video card, it should be ok. Just as long as you have a good enough PSU (I think?) Video card OC isnt much of an issue as you would most likely only get 1 - 3 FPS more. But OCing a processor is capable of giving you a larger performance boost compared to a video card OC; especially if the video card is faster than the processor. If not a bottleneck would orcur and, what i always like to call it. Makes you "Handicapped" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted May 3, 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2006 Well about the power supply I'm getting a SevenTeam ST500-BKV 500W ATX 2.0. I'll try to overclock the processor only. I heard there are programs that allow me to overclock the processor without having to go into the BIOS. I might use them since they look easyer to understand. I'll be using the stock cooling tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I've heard of people getting a .4 ghz upgrade using only stock cooling with the venice core. Also, be careful with the GUI CPU OC utilities. Sometimes it's just safer to use the bios. That's why I suggest OCing the vid card first, as it's easier and safer. You use Rivatuner to do it at the driver-level, and simply up the speed slowly and gradually and test it after each small (2 or 3 hz per time) upping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTV2 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Well about the power supply I'm getting a SevenTeam ST500-BKV 500W ATX 2.0. I'll try to overclock the processor only. I heard there are programs that allow me to overclock the processor without having to go into the BIOS. I might use them since they look easyer to understand. I'll be using the stock cooling tho. its safer to do it in BIOS and its recommended and, well, easier, since its all there. all u do is go to the advanced tab, then go down to something that says Front Side Bus or CLock frequency or something and change it. it was in a MaxPc magazine a couple months back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 ...or use the nTune utility from nVidia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I've heard of people getting a .4 ghz upgrade using only stock cooling with the venice core. Also, be careful with the GUI CPU OC utilities. Sometimes it's just safer to use the bios. That's why I suggest OCing the vid card first, as it's easier and safer. You use Rivatuner to do it at the driver-level, and simply up the speed slowly and gradually and test it after each small (2 or 3 hz per time) upping. Rivatuner video card overclock lets you OC until you have come to a part where you can no longer OC it. There would be an exclamation mark on the engine/core symbol at the side. Even if you try to OC it beyond this point, it will not allow you to apply settings, of coruse you can bypass this by disabling the power user thingy. But its VERY risky, and i almost killed my video card too while doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTV2 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 ...or use the nTune utility from nVidia. hes talking about his processor not his video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 hes talking about his processor not his video card. I know that. nTune can overclock the CPU and HT frequency as long as you have an nForce motherboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTV2 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 but using third-party applications to overclock a CPU isn't "safe" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted May 4, 2006 Author Share Posted May 4, 2006 but using third-party applications to overclock a CPU isn't "safe" Really? Aw dang... I thought it was.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 but using third-party applications to overclock a CPU isn't "safe"Neither is overclocking from the BIOS. If your CPU has run at a clockspeed higher than the stock speed your CPU's warantee is void-it doesn't matter what you've used to OC it. And it isn't third-party anyways-it's put out by nVidia, the company that makes the motherboard chipset. It's safe as long as you don't increase your FSB, CPU multiplier, or CPU voltage by huge amounts, and if it doesn't work, your system will simply shut down to prevent damage to the CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted May 5, 2006 Author Share Posted May 5, 2006 I thought that it would burn the CPU <_< Well, I'll read about it before I try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTV2 Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Neither is overclocking from the BIOS. If your CPU has run at a clockspeed higher than the stock speed your CPU's warantee is void-it doesn't matter what you've used to OC it. And it isn't third-party anyways-it's put out by nVidia, the company that makes the motherboard chipset. It's safe as long as you don't increase your FSB, CPU multiplier, or CPU voltage by huge amounts, and if it doesn't work, your system will simply shut down to prevent damage to the CPU. i mean that third-party applications aren't "reliable" and since BIOS is within the comp. its obviously safer...read the overclock edition of MaxPC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted May 5, 2006 Author Share Posted May 5, 2006 I'll have to import that magazine whats the number/month/year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 It's safe as long as you don't increase your FSB, CPU multiplier, or CPU voltage by huge amounts, and if it doesn't work, your system will simply shut down to prevent damage to the CPU. I dont think just by bringing up the FSB would kill the chip, neither will bringing up the multiplier. Its usually overvolting that will kill it, thats exactly what happened to mine. As for the CPU overtemp shut down, make sure its enabled at all times. Including the one which says, "shut down when CPU fan fail" (Enable these two even if you are not overclocking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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