Paro Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Things I wrote: Paro wrote: Bots don't 'click' when the timelimit or fraglimit is reached(atleast the TAB Bots, haven't tried the others...) Paro wrote: On (OJP Basic) map_restart almost all players get disconnected sometimes. Paro wrote: My point is that there should be some sort of 'warning' about the saber-system so it would minimize the chance of having the kind of bad first impression as I had... Paro wrote: What it misses is some way of controlling admin rights, for example, it would be great if there was a way to set more(as many as one would like) rconpasswords with each having it's own(customizable) rights(it would minimize admin abuse). Paro wrote: Well that's kinda the whole point of a rocket launcher, it's supposed to be deadly and wanted(like in any other FPS). Besides there is mostly only one spawn point for it on maps so the risk of someone spamming rockets for longer than few seconds is equal to none. And how come rarely seen? I see it in the JK series everytime... Paro wrote: By the way, why is your main concern the OJP Enhanced? I mean, the OJP Basic could be developed much much faster(and sooner) and with it done, it would be just tweaking the new Enhanced game system. ... JRHockney wrote: On top of that, this is a very small forum community made up of mostly older players, and as such, I think we should try to maintain a higher degree of professionalism in our responses than bigger forum communities, agreed? ... Things Maxstate wrote: Maxstate wrote: Troll. Maxstate wrote: What OJP needs least now are cynical, sarcastic bastards that do not post jack worth of constructive posts but only annoy others by upholding their stupid unargumented opinions. Maxstate wrote: My opinion is that his opinion sucks. Maxstate wrote: This is not the MB forum, not everyone is a hostile here. Maxstate wrote: Further more, he doesn't help us with the comment even one bit, it just shows how long he has been playing this. ... I actually read all Your post in this thread and guess what, You wrote NOTHING on the topic of OJP gamesystem,bugs,sabersystem,exploits or whatsoever. The only thing You managed to do was to constantly whine about me missing arguments and finger-pointing on my person. Please DO think about what you'll post next time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxstate Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Things I wrote: ... ... Things Maxstate wrote: ... I actually read all Your post in this thread and guess what, You wrote NOTHING on the topic of OJP gamesystem,bugs,sabersystem,exploits or whatsoever. The only thing You managed to do was to constantly whine about me missing arguments and finger-pointing on my person. Please DO think about what you'll post next time... I wasn't referring to what you posted, I may be wrong that you haven't posted ANYTHING of use ofcourse, but I could go ahead and quote all of the replies you made that were just flame-instigators. Just look at this thread.. plus you're now just continuing the reply-retort-counter retort effect and I really can't take much more of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vruki Salet Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Come on guys, Paro wasn't very diplomatic about his complaints, in fact he was rude, but forget it and work with him on the points. Maybe he doesn't get some stuff and you could explain a how or why, maybe he points out flaws that everyone knows and are on the to-do list, and maybe he sees things nobody else gave a thought about. Can we salvage this thread or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UDM Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 You're right Paro, a word of advice. If you want others to take your opinions seriously, try sounding less like an ass. You certainly have a way of showing your appreciation to someone who took your advice seriously: Yet I hope it didn't made You cry...It was not my intention. Keep this attitude up, and no one's going to give 2 balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathain Valtiel Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Enough, all of you. Maxstate, you know what? If you can't take what he posts in the thread, or his lack of experience, or what-the-hell-ever, DON'T LOOK AT HIS POSTS (there is an ignore function in vBulletin if I recall) and most especially DO NOT RESPOND TO THEM the way you have. Do I make myself clear? And frankly, Paro's single comment was justified considering how Maxstate was acting and Hockney's semi-quasi-support of it, albeit misdirected. I expect better behavior from him in the future... 'you cry'-type insults annoy me to no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHockney* Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Can we salvage this thread or what? I'm not sure, but Ive had just about enough of this thread thus far. It's been nothing but a big downer mostly based on misunderstanding and now its turning into a retort war. If you guys want to discuss features, lets head in that direction. But any more of these pointless unconstructive remarks (whether they are justified or not) and I'm closing it. I'd really hate to do that since It has never been done for such a reason since I first came here, but this forum has always been very civil and I wont stand to see that characteristic go down hill for such silly reasons. Sorry if I sound a little edgy, I'm just exhausted and just had a long drive . Paro, since this is your thread and you've already made up your mind about enhanced, how about aiming this discussion on just basic since you actually play that one and run a server for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paro Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Is it possible to code-in multiple(preferably limitless number) rconpasswords with each having it's own rights? Example: 1.rconpassword having the rights to execute any rcon commands and even change the rights of other rcons 2.rcon could only execute kick,cancelvote,change map etc. 3.rcon ... It would be a good way of controlling admins. I'm not talking here about making OJP an 'admin mod' but just simply adding some new features. I actually almost talked one server owner(the owner of JA+ mod Hypno server) into switching to the OJP Basic mod. The only reason it's not there is that he seen it as a problem that there would be no way of having control over the admins there(because there is quite a lot of admins under the age of 14 years that simply 'toy' with the admin rights sometimes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vruki Salet Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 So you don't want admin punishments, just ways to delegate limited rights and responsibilities so admins can have safe helpers, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxstate Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Is it possible to code-in multiple(preferably limitless number) rconpasswords with each having it's own rights? Example: 1.rconpassword having the rights to execute any rcon commands and even change the rights of other rcons 2.rcon could only execute kick,cancelvote,change map etc. 3.rcon ... It would be a good way of controlling admins. I'm not talking here about making OJP an 'admin mod' but just simply adding some new features. I actually almost talked one server owner(the owner of JA+ mod Hypno server) into switching to the OJP Basic mod. The only reason it's not there is that he seen it as a problem that there would be no way of having control over the admins there(because there is quite a lot of admins under the age of 14 years that simply 'toy' with the admin rights sometimes). Well if there is anyone that can do it it's Razor Ace. Edit for better grammar: I *think* I've seen SM rights that were limited to only map switching but no kicking in an MB server, I *THINK*. I would very much hope this to work, everyone would be able to trust their servers into the hands of the less experienced/technical without having them crash the servers every moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_chimp Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 how do people who play with admin functions become admins hell if they play with the admin functions for kicks they shouldn't be admins and should have those little tools taken away. i personally like some of the bugs like thunderstruck combo i thought it was awsome admitedly some of the other bugs really need fixing im still surprised that no pictorial flames have be used oh yeah you can post images exept as links http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/463c5922 that my idea of teh truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxstate Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 how do people who play with admin functions become admins hell if they play with the admin functions for kicks they shouldn't be admins and should have those little tools taken away. i personally like some of the bugs like thunderstruck combo i thought it was awsome admitedly some of the other bugs really need fixing im still surprised that no pictorial flames have be used oh yeah you can post images exept as links http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.phpi/463c5922/arguing.jpg?cb=1115204527 that my idea of teh truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_chimp Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 nice havent seen that one before got any more good ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paro Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Vruki Salet wrote: So you don't want admin punishments, just ways to delegate limited rights and responsibilities so admins can have safe helpers, right? I *THINK* yes that's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxstate Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 nice havent seen that one before got any more good ones Yeah but let's not get the thread offtopic man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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