The Source Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 I don't normally talk about this garbage. As you have read, I would have liked to have forgotten about it. When conversations about physical punishment come up, I am very sensitive to the overall subject matter. Punishment - means to deliver pain. Discipline - means to teach. There is a difference between the two. I will discipline my children, but I will not punish my children. People should read up on the definitions. Discipline requires no physical punishment. Discipline techniques will teach children to behave, and it will protect them from physical harm. There are other ways to deal with children, and they will ensure their sefety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Good gawd, I'm surprised security didn't stop you. I'd have thought there was some form of child abuse going on. Parental abuse with the extremely high pitch of her scream, maybe, but no child abuse. I was just holding on to her. No squeezing, no hitting, no screaming, just walking right back out the doors I came in not 5 minutes earlier. The security guy standing by the doors may have seen the whole thing anyway, since I was right be the doors the entire time. He'd have known she was having just one spectacular tantrum. Remember, she was doing the spaghetti-leg thing (you know, when you pick a toddler up to get them to stand, and it's like the bones have completely left their legs and they sink down to the ground) and refused to walk. When I picked her up, she kicked the bejeezers out of me, then tried to throw herself back out of my arms and then throw herself forward and headbutt my shoulder. I couldn't hold her against me to stop the throwing herself around thing and control her legs at the same time because of her height. The only way to carry her safely without losing my virginity at that point was to carry her sideways. Didn't hurt her one bit, though it looked really weird. How long was the walk from the store to your car? Too long, whatever it was. Three millimeters would have been too long. @Mac--if I saw a kid going through what you went through, I would have called the cops to go arrest the jerk. Then I would have called Child Protective Services and his butt would have been in jail so fast he wouldn't know what happened. I don't always recognize abuse quickly enough, but when I do, I don't mess around making the necessary phone calls. Sorry you had to go through something so horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Parental abuse with the extremely high pitch of her scream, maybe, but no child abuse. That's just the first impression a lot of people get when they hear children screaming so loudly. Didn't hurt her one bit, though it looked really weird. Especially so if you if you picture a young woman dressed in black with a concealed face, cape, and lightwhip doing it. his butt would have been in jail so fast he wouldn't know what happened. Unfortunately, our judicial system is too soft on those things. Some cases of murdering small children have been punished with less than 20 years, for crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 @Mac--if I saw a kid going through what you went through, I would have called the cops to go arrest the jerk. Then I would have called Child Protective Services and his butt would have been in jail so fast he wouldn't know what happened. I don't always recognize abuse quickly enough, but when I do, I don't mess around making the necessary phone calls. Sorry you had to go through something so horrible. It was a family secret. My mother didn't do anything at the time. She knew what was going on, but she didn't do anything to stop it. After everything was said and done, her eyes were finally openned to what had happened. It was like she lived with blinders, and then someone made her understand what was wrong. It was about 11 years ago, so it is long, long, long gone. Ocassionally, I see threads or news reports and they bring back some memories. Like this one. I have grown over the years, so it doesn't affect me as much. I thank everyone for their sympathy, but I consider everything burried into the past. When people deal with their children, please consider discipline over punishment. Look up the words and understand them. Kids will remember everything as they grow up, and they will react to you according to how you approach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxstate Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 The "ignoring thing" or your parents saying "we're not mad, just dissapointed" for me is far worse than any physical punishment. Oh sorry: Im against punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What I have found surprising is what you are actually able to do physically in terms of the law. Parents actually have a lot more "means" at their disposal than I think most realize. I'm starting to figure this stuff out because I daughter is getting to the age where she will need to be disciplined. Right now she always stops when we say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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