SilentScope001 Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 I hear how Darth Bane, Darth Sidious, Darth Revan, Darth Vader, etc...how they all are supposed to be Sith'rai. In all their reasons, they forget the main reason the Sith'rai is key in the Sith religion: The Sith'rai is supposed to be the perfect Sith being. Perfect. He has no bonds whatsoever. No connections. No longer enslaved to puny desires. He contorl the Force, the Force does not contorl it. He is the Messiah figure, he is supposed to be the personifcation of the Sith's goal of being powerful, and not weak. It is he who would make the Sith Order stronger by destroying it...because of his perfectness. Now, erm. That detail doesn't exactly show much, since it can be argued that all the above candinates had no connections, is not enslaved, and is therefore, perfect. Still... Darth Vader is an idiot who loved his wife and later loved his son. He could not sustain seeing his son writh in pain, and given up his power...so, he's a weak fool who does not deserve to embrace the Dark Side. He's the Chosen One, but not the Sith'rai. Darth Sidious sounds like a good candinate, but if so, then how could he be defeated by Darth Vader? He also seem to be blinded by power...but, well, I think that's a trait most Sith can be relied to have. Maybe he does care about only himself, and is the Sith'rai, maybe he's not. Darth Bane, I know nothing about. Possibly he has no connections, and is the Sith'rai. Darth Revan. Possibly, but it depends on how you preceive Revan since he's our character. Since I see Revan as loving the Republic, or at least loving its existance, then he has been enslaved by it, and does not do it for his own self. He is not the Sith'rai since he cares about others, not himself. But, this is my Revan. Your Revan may be different. The reason I want to draw this to people's attention is because the Sith'rai is made in K1 to help us players understand more about the Sith ideology. It's not made just so we can speculate and guess who is the Sith'rai. He's supposed to show us what the Sith admires, what the Sith wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davinq Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Is there any even solid source that says there is such thing as a Sith'rai? I'd like to see it, because I've been out of teh Star Wars action for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Kered Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 You have made some good points. The Sith'ari is the opposite belief of the Chosen One. As Yuthura Ban said "One who has freed themselves from all restrictions has reached perfection, their potential fulfilled. Perfect strength, perfect power, perfect destiny. Imagine it." But this was created to show that the Sith believed some one who is perfect would one day rule over them. It was more of adding a god to their religion. It may also have been created as a link to up coming stories. As for speculations of who is the Sith'ari, the idea could have been put there to point the way for a character that is already in excistance. As for who it may be, Darth Bane is the most likely: 1.)He turned from the Brother Hood thus restricting himself to only the Dark Side. 2.)He reached perfection by is months of study in secret with Githany and Kas'im. His potential was greater than that of any student. 3.)He destroyed the Sith and created the Rule of Two. "One to embody power", only one to control the Dark Side. Only one who would "lead" the sith to victory. Lead does not have to mean that one would personaly lead, but could lead others by teachings. "the other to crave it", one to properly pass down the power to instead of leaving it to be fought over. Darth Sidious only used Anakin to do his bidding, that is why Vader never gained more power than what Sidious would let him. But Anakin was the Chosen One, the one who would destroy the Sith and bring Balance to the Force. Which he did. Sidious was too blind by its power, other wise the Chosen One would not have succeeded in destroying him. And Anakin/Vader was already the Chosen One so there for can not be the Sith'ari, and neither can Sidious do to his "over confidence". Some might think that Krayt is the Sith'ari because of his Rule of One. But he has created a massive order of Sith which restricts himself to being nothing more than a servant to the order. Even as Bane's holocron projection said to Krayt "Power is its own purpose, to share it is to dilute it...Your order will yet turn on itself and you." Krayt is too weak. But since there is a new Sith Order and it may collapse as Bane said, the Sith'ari may yet to be determined. Maybe when/if this new order collopses the Sith'ari will rise to power. Is there any even solid source that says there is such thing as a Sith'rai? I'd like to see it, because I've been out of teh Star Wars action for months. Yes. It was first mentioned in Kotor, and mentioned several times in the novel Darth Bane: Path of Destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Master Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 The Sith'ari is mentioned in Wikipedia and in some Star Wars novels, but as to who could it be, we can only speculate about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 From what I've seen (i.e. the little that is said in the game) it seems like the Sith'ari is a Sith pipe dream. Something they strive towards but which is ultimately impossible to achieve. It is the journey there that drive them to improve and become stronger, and not the end in itself that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Vader could sort of be counted as the Sith'ari. He led the Sith in how he was the Supreme Commander of their empire's military (the prophecy says nothing about whether leading them is political or militarical), and he held the rank of Dark Lord at the same time Sidious did. He obviously destroyed the Sith by killing Palpatine and turning back to the light side, which got rid of their restrictive Rule of Two and paved the way for Darth Krayt. Though if you count the Dark Empire comics, he actually didn't destroy them at all. A far more likely candidate is Darth Bane. He destroyed the Brotherhood of Darkness, and founded the Order of the Sith Lords in its place. Although it made the Sith much smaller, it did make them stronger in how they were able to defeat the Jedi 1,000 years later. He was also the leader of it, so that sort of fulfills the prophecy - it doesn't mention whether the Sith'ari is supposed to lead the Sith before or after he destroys them. By all accounts, it's extremely vague (such as not saying whether meeting those two requirements constitutes as perfection, or even what defines that) and as stoffe mentioned, impossible to achieve. True perfection is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 From what I've seen (i.e. the little that is said in the game) it seems like the Sith'rai is a Sith pipe dream. Something they strive towards but which is ultimately impossible to achieve. It is the journey there that drive them to improve and become stronger, and not the end in itself that matters. Similar to ascending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK-42 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Probaly Bane... But on the main post its Sith'ari not Siith'rai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 I agree with stoffe mkb on that. There simply is no perfect character... If it was Bane, how come he died? Isn't he supposed to be perfect in every way? Then he would surely have achieved immortality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK-42 Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 All this arguement is not needed. I AM THE SITH'ARI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Skywalker Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Wrong about that you are Grivis, I am the Sith'ari... and it will stay that way this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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