JuniorModder Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I agree with TMM. Once the process has started, it is murder to stop it. Saying that it isn't truly alive is a common excuse to make the aborter feel less guilty. JuniorModder EDIT: Some people do believe that using birth control, and not going through the motions on getting pregnant is as bad as abortion. So they have lot's and lot's of children (IE: the Duggars), and I respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I agree with TMM. Once the process has started, it is murder to stop it. What about in special circumstances, such as a choice between mother and baby? Or if the woman is victim of a violent sexual assault? Should she be expected to carry that baby to term, in spite of what it represents to her? I can probably guess at your answer, but i'm still interested in hearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorModder Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I think that unless having the baby will kill the baby and the mother, she should not have an abortion. Even the circumstance you mentioned, I think that she should have the baby, if she can't handle caring for a baby, she should put it up for adoption. JuniorModder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I think that unless having the baby will kill the baby and the mother, she should not have an abortion. Even the circumstance you mentioned, I think that she should have the baby, if she can't handle caring for a baby, she should put it up for adoption. Not only do you fricking resurrect a thread I never wanted to see again, and post nothing at all new to the topic, indeed there have been far better articulations of your argument but you then to top it all off, come out and post the utter totality of not caring about a woman who has been raped and attempt to force upon her and victimise her 9 months of hell even more for an evil perpetrated on her. Should she wish to keep it, that should be her decision, should she not wish it, then she should be allowed to have an abortion. Given that I really, really doubt you actually read this thread before necroing it, I'm going to repost something I posted ages ago. I am a devout Christian and so biblically I should not agree with abortion, however if a woman has been raped, is the victim of child abuse or the child is because of incest then I believe a woman should of the right to choose if she wants an abortion. I have been unfortunate enough to see the effects of rape and the scars child abuse leaves on friends of mine and if they got pregnant as well, wether we agree or disagree I believe they should have the right to an abortion. Would you want to give birth to the child of a rapist? Psychologically speaking there is evidence that rapists have higher testosterone levels than the average male... so could the child go on to be a rapist? (its not a causal link, just an interesting thing to note, although the research into violent crime offenders is also contraditory like so many areas of psychology). So while I disagree with abortion in all other cases here I believe a woman has the right to choose due to circumstances well beyond her control being forced on her. And I don't think some of you should be so arrogant as to say what you would do in that situation, or as arrogant as to tell a woman who has been raped what to do, its their choice... who are you to tell them otherwise? My friends who have been raped will never recover; they carry scars that will last a life time, should they be made to have another scar? Generally I wished to post this, and I can't recall if I did before, but in terms of anti-abortion argument, I think this is as good as it comes; "But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child - a direct killing of the innocent child - murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion? As always, we must persuade her with love, and we remind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts. Jesus gave even his life to love us. So the mother who is thinking of abortion, should be helped to love - that is, to give until it hurts her plans, or her free time, to respect the life of her child. The father of that child, whoever he is, must also give until it hurts. By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And by abortion, the father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. That father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Can't play by the rules. Try to resurrect this thread now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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