adamqd Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I didn't say Chris Cerasi defines canon, I said I see it like he does, as I've said before this is my opinion, things do exist in the continuity that contradict each other, canon isn't perfect by a long shot. I own all the essential guides, and just because something isn't mentioned it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. a planet (In most cases) is a large rock, when I say he drains planets, I mean he drains all the force on that planet people animals etc, dont misquote me Don't tell me what can and cant be used to debate with. by definition, nature, power and feats Nihilus would beat Anakin because thats what he does, force users have no defense unless they are a wound in the force, GL's statements about a FP Anakin being the all powerful contradict this, which is why you cant really compare them fairly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jvstice Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Exactly. Anakin would definitely be more powerful by every measure, but Nihilus has a technique against which, in Kreia's words "there is no defense." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talyn82 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 To Bane of the Sith: Wow! It's really sad you take this stuff so seriously, I mean don't you have something better to do than argue someone you don't know? I admit I found it amusing how someone can get worked up over this, but not it's just sad. This is fantasy who cares who's right or who's wrong. Keep it civil, everyone. --Jae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaneOfTheSith Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I didn't say Chris Cerasi defines canon, I said I see it like he does, as I've said before this is my opinion, things do exist in the continuity that contradict each other, canon isn't perfect by a long shot. Ok then. I own all the essential guides, and just because something isn't mentioned it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Which in this case it doesn't as there is nothing to back you up. a planet (In most cases) is a large rock, when I say he drains planets, I mean he drains all the force on that planet people animals etc, dont misquote me Then you have me sincere apologies, i was mostly rambling this to talyn. by definition, nature, power and feats Nihilus would beat Anakin because thats what he does, force users have no defense unless they are a wound in the force, Again i'll ask and continue to do so until you prove up. WHERE was it stated that only "wounds" in the force can defend against his attack? I guess you have not read the black fleet crisis where there is a technique which ACTUALLY defends against his attack ergo the fallanasi technique which MANY force users has mastered: luke skywalker, yoda , darth caedus, darth sidious , tholme and possibly mace windu? By defination, nature, power and according to the supreme establisher of canon, Anakin at FP would DESTROY nihilus. Firstly do you even know canon policy where what lucas says = the undisputed fact and highest authority? Again anakin at FULL potential would be MORE than twice the power of nihilus MEANING he would be able to conjure up an even better defence than the fallanasi technique and he would be able to do MORE damage than even what emperor palpatine did with the dark side of the force. What part of this don't you understand? Why do you keep insisting that nihilus would beat FP anakin when its stated FP anakin is far superior to everybody else by a very large margin? ~snipped~ GL's statements about a FP Anakin being the all powerful contradict this, which is why you cant really compare them fairly Gl's statement contradicts nothing as he is the undisputed highest form of canon which overwrites ANYTHING in the EU. There is far too much evidence to put FP anakin an even more powerful and more lethel being that nihilus ever can be for anybody to argue against. Exactly. Anakin would definitely be more powerful by every measure, but Nihilus has a technique against which, in Kreia's words "there is no defense." And sadly kreia has never met luke skywalker, darth sidious or the fallanasi people where they have actual defences against this technique. To Bane of the Sith: Wow! It's really sad you take this stuff so seriously, I mean don't you have something better to do than argue someone you don't know? I admit I found it amusing how someone can get worked up over this, but not it's just sad. This is fantasy who cares who's right or who's wrong. ~snipped~ The thing is i don't take it seriously, i just merely state whats canon which is backed up by numerous sources, i am merely proving you wrong which in this case you really are. Good to see you again, Sephira. Have a nice day. --Jae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I agree with what your saying Bane, but what I'm trying to say is, Yes, Lucas is the ultimate canon I know this fact well, but do you think he even knows who Nihilus is? Does he know all these DE Sidious, Luke NJO, obscure details and powers you constantly quote? I very much doubt it. I should of put TSL contradicts Lucas as he is the master, but the point still stands. I remember an interview with Sue Rostoni of Lucas licensing, she said that when it came time to continue the story of Luke Skywalker, she "Informed" him that he would marry Mara, and he wasn't even told about Ben being born. He has very little Knowledge or input of the EU, the Ruusan reformation/Palpatines line in AOTC Retcon is a good example of this. fp Anakin can beat Nihilus because Lucas said so, not because he pondered the match up... Yes Canonically fp Anakin owns anyone ever, but evidence doesn't portray this. side note: The essential guide to the force has a few discrepancies in it, like dates in the time-line, ie; It states that Vos recovered the Holocron of Darth Andeddu a year before AOTC, when in fact its 7 1/2 months into the Clone Wars, there are various other mistakes with names and dates, and thats the latest canon. Thats why I take everything with a pinch of salt Besides this is a comment from Lucas about a theoretical FP Anakin, this has never been put on paper or made into a film so you can't canonize it. If Lucas rolled over in his sleep and shouted "luke dies in 4 ABY" during a nightmare, does that mean we have to Retcon Dark Empire, NJO, LOTF? What I'm trying to say is your right to a degree, but its not as clean cut as you make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 If Lucas rolled over in his sleep and shouted "luke dies in 4 ABY" during a nightmare, does that mean we have to Retcon Dark Empire, NJO, LOTF? That actually wouldn't be very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 GUYZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME FIND OUT WOULD SUBJECTIVE FICTIONAL ENTITY #1 WIN AGAINST SUBJECTIVE FICTIONAL ENTITY #2?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 GUYZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME FIND OUT WOULD SUBJECTIVE FICTIONAL ENTITY #1 WIN AGAINST SUBJECTIVE FICTIONAL ENTITY #2?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!? *Jae spews Diet Pepsi all over the monitor* :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 GUYZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME FIND OUT WOULD SUBJECTIVE FICTIONAL ENTITY #1 WIN AGAINST SUBJECTIVE FICTIONAL ENTITY #2?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!? Guffaw! Were trying to Brainiac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 GUYZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME FIND OUT WOULD SUBJECTIVE FICTIONAL ENTITY #1 WIN AGAINST SUBJECTIVE FICTIONAL ENTITY #2?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!? This post wins... thread over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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