KinchyB Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 So you're saying a tradesman cannot do their job? Nope, i'm saying without a license he may be working illegally. You say he's legal, while everyone else says he's not. Prove it is legal for him to work in ohio. Him being a tradesman is irrellevant to the legality of his work. Don't give me that garbage, actually quote in the law where it says that cause if that's accurate you should probably have to arrest a good number of members from the plumbing union in Ohio. I'm assuming you can point out your own assumption and fallacy here...? Anyways, where are the media trucks outside Bill Ayers' home? We've seen more coverage into the life of a guy that simply asked a question, than we've seen into Obama's past the entire Presidential Election. Ahh yes, a classic tactic here. This particular tactic is usually used when one party is noticeably failing in his argument, so they bring up another issue completely unrelated to the topic at hand. Spin = Failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 What vetting, aside from Sean Hannity and Fox News, the rest of the Media has been taking Obama's statements as gospel truth. And when they finally reported on anything they distorted and outright lied. Kinda hard to vet someone when you think they're the messiah. Premise 1: Obama is guilty of everything he's accused of. Premise 2: Legitimate news sources will find evidence of Obama's guilt. Conclusion: News sources that fail to find evidence of Obama's guilt aren't legitimate. This is your argument. This is why starting with a conclusion and working backwards causes people to lose credibility. So let's try this: If Obama is accused of something, legitimate news sources investigate and find nothing, what does that mean? ADFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 And I'm saying they haven't done the investigating because I first knew of the Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers over 23 monthes ago. And the media is only just now picking up on the bare surface of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Right. Hillary brought it up. Everyone looked. Everyone except right-wing nutjobs saw that there was nothing and after seeing that it was nothing let it go. So your argument that it's somehow "just now" being picked up is patently false. ADFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Ohio plumbing license law OH law says one has to have 5 years of experience in the plumbing field in order to apply for a license in Ohio, which means they work as an apprentice under someone else learning the trade before they can apply for their own license. This is not really that different from someone who provides care as a student nurse or doctor under the auspices of another professional during their training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Breaking News: http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/report-government-computers-used-information-joe-plumber/ http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/24/joe.html?sid=101 There is an investigation as to whether or not information on "Joe" was illegally obtained through government computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I don't mean to sound uncaring; however, does Joe the Plumber's background matter? I think the media took this thing too literally. Now they have every Jane and John Doe invading his personal life. Who cares. Joe the Plumber is a figure of speech; thus, its used similar to Joe's Bar and Grill. This is not McCain's or Obama's fault. Its the media's fault for taking the statement literally. I don't understand why people hack into other people's buisness. Does anyone have a sense of privacy anymore? Come one. Tell me this - Who really cares about the guy's personal life? Does it matter? Are we grownups here? Children do this crazy stuff at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Update: There have now been people charged in the accessing of information on Joe: Report Clerk Charged with Misconduct for Unlawfully Accessing Information on 'Joe the Plumber' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 ... What the **** does this have to do with politics? I love you mimartin, but I'm closing this like it should have been after it was made. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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