[wip] KotOR III The End of an Era Mod for TSL (any one interested in any position)

[Druganator]

Well, they never returned according to TOR.

 

all im gonna do concerning them is reference them with the droids and other party members.

 

I'm thinking there will be one main pirate crime boss who is jumping up in the ranks, making deals with the Hutts and the Exhcange as the character pushes for more power. This Crime boss will be like Malak in kotor1, where malak help push the story forward as you continue in your quest.

 

The Jedi factions could also be a source of giving quest which in turn gain influence with that certain faction. Neither faction is right or wrong, its just how you translate the Jedi doctrine of the Order.

 

This will give you 3 results:

1) gain full influence and the progressive order wins out

2) gain full influence and the traditional order wins out

3) you are able to fuse them together with a mix of both, this would be the hardest to accomplish and causes the PC to play politics to gain this result.

(This is all done with no violence)

 

I think during the events one of Jedi with the loudest voice will turn to the dark side and leave and help the crime boss as his/her apprentice. (You can have it set or an option where possible of 3 people depending on which faction wins in the Jedi struggle.)

 

I have some other ideas on the details but i will PM them since they might become spoilers if taken into the plot.

 

The question is what to do about Revan and Exile, how big of a role, if any will they play, we have to take in consideration with what we know about TOR to keep it cannon.

 

Logan

 

i think thats sounds good for lightsiders. i think if ur dark side though you should be able to have the two sides of the jedi conflict to fight eachother after you make them do it somehow. im thinking of something but ill PM you about it. and if your dark side you sort of work your way up in the exchange and the villain works his way up in the pirates. btw Pirates > Exchange at this point. after the goto incident the exchange has smaller bosses all fighting to take gotos place and youll be able to fight them and take over their subordinates all the way until you control all of the exchange and unify it to fight the pirates and control all the crime. [this could also be an undercover mission that the jedi (if unified only) ask you to do, you could also mischeiviously gain control of the jedi while under the guise of someone not running the exchange.(only if you have taken over the exchange)there is also a certain group you can take over after you unify the exchange ] the republic asks you to find someone that the pirates have abducted and they send some one to aid you. i havent decided who to use, if i should create someone or just use a return character.

 

thoughts? suggestions?

[Darth Novotnus]

I really liked Planescape:Torment way, where you must find characters, who knows something and can send you forward to another person who will send you to another man... and you don't know who is the villian until you meet him.

I have an idea for this:

 

the republic asks you to find someone that the pirates have abducted and they send some one to aid you. i havent decided who to use, if i should create someone or just use a return character.

 

I would create new character - someone, who fell to the dark side, but realized his mistake and turned back and turned away from the Force (something like Kyle Katarn after MotS) - now he just wants to stay low for a while and get on with himself. With increase of criminal activity planet he tries to hide becomes fief of a Hutt crimelord, who wants to "convince" that character to cooperate. It could be a nice quest for a planet to rescue this fallen Jedi and make him cooperate (with finding out, that the Hutt is dead - I would love to see partly-decomposed Hutt in a game - and that Hutt's empire is runned by the organization manipulated by the Sith).

If you like the idea, PM and I'll try to describe it more precisely (sorry for my lousy English : )

[Lord of Destruction]

so yeah if you need me voice than send the script soon cause i won't be on this place alot cause i'm going to start my own mod and i have no idea when i will done.

[Druganator]

so yeah if you need me voice than send the script soon cause i won't be on this place alot cause i'm going to start my own mod and i have no idea when i will done.

 

i havent finished the entire story as of yet so you may finish your mod before i am ready to give out lines.

 

im loving all the ideas people are giving me, logan especially, keep them coming, i cant guarantee that they will be used exactly as they are given but i may be able to change it a little bit and add it to what others have suggested and just build on everything. im going to watch some older films to get some more cinematic ideas storyline wise. i want this story to be simple enough so that everyone gets it as it goes but also to be complex enough that you dont feel like your playing lego star wars. im also going to watch some new films to get good ideas for action and depth.

[Pikmin]

I really don't think looking for at voice actors at all this early is a good idea. Wait until you are absolutely sure that you are down to one to two variations of each line.

[Lord of Destruction]

if you pull this of you got to teach me cause I'm a nuub. my mod isn't like this i will probably just get to make some custom made weapons or armors.

[Druganator]

if you pull this of you got to teach me cause I'm a nuub. my mod isn't like this i will probably just get to make some custom made weapons or armors.

 

maybe if you'd like your mid could be included in this one?

[Lord of Hunger]

I like Logan23's idea of progressive and traditionalist Jedi factions. I think that the Lost Jedi (the Exile's Jedi) should be the Progressives while Bastila (by this time a Jedi Watchman), Juhani (Jedi Weaponsmaster), Lucien Draay, and others should be the Traditionalists. Zayne should be independent.

 

I'm thinking there will be one main pirate crime boss who is jumping up in the ranks, making deals with the Hutts and the Exhcange as the character pushes for more power. This Crime boss will be like Malak in kotor1, where malak help push the story forward as you continue in your quest.

Maybe not pirate...they aren't really bright.

The Jedi factions could also be a source of giving quest which in turn gain influence with that certain faction. Neither faction is right or wrong, its just how you translate the Jedi doctrine of the Order.

The Traditionalists should be as they sound: pretty much the previous administration with new people like Bastila and Juhani in charge.

This will give you 3 results:

1) gain full influence and the progressive order wins out

2) gain full influence and the traditional order wins out

3) you are able to fuse them together with a mix of both, this would be the hardest to accomplish and causes the PC to play politics to gain this result.

(This is all done with no violence)

As Druganator suggested, DS options as well.

4) Manipulate the Progressive Order and turn them to the Dark Side.

5) Manipulate the Traditionalist Order and turn them to the Dark Side.

6) Pull a Vader and kill 'em all. You can also declare your allegiance to the Sith.

7) Ignore everyone.

I think during the events one of Jedi with the loudest voice will turn to the dark side and leave and help the crime boss as his/her apprentice. (You can have it set or an option where possible of 3 people depending on which faction wins in the Jedi struggle.)

A Crime Boss with a Jedi apprentice?

The question is what to do about Revan and Exile, how big of a role, if any will they play, we have to take in consideration with what we know about TOR to keep it cannon.

I vote for them having no appearance in the mod. They probably died fighting the True Sith Empire.

 

On Pirate and Crime Factions: I was planning in my KOTOR3 for an Exchange-Hutt War to break out on Nar Shaddaa and Nal Hutta. Nar Shaddaa should be reused and Nal Hutta added so we can see massive fights on both worlds. Also, I think that GOTO (who is an AI) should be alive and well.

 

A couple of worlds that should be available in my opinion should be Telos (now restored to its former glory) and Coruscant (complete with the Jedi Temple, which should be under the control of the Traditionalists).

 

Regarding Darth Andeddu and the Malevolence: I was thinking that Andeddu could be the Unidentified Darth. In fact, I was thinking of having him be a former Sith Lord under the Triumvirate who has essentially learned from the teachings of the Trayus Academy at Malachor the secrets of immortality. The Malevolence cult is actively assassinating key Republic officials and framing various political factions in the Senate.

[logan23]

Hey,

 

I like the added options with the Jedi factions.

The only this would work would be this would happen near the end of the game.

 

Lucien Draay is Darth Sion, its hinted in the kotor comics. Also in the comic he is very burned.

 

Juhani i would leave as dead, either Revan killed her or she died during the Purge/or Kattarr.

 

When I talk about pirates I'm really talking about an emerging Criminal Organization.

 

The Crime boss would be a dark force user, basically a self trained dark jedi.

 

I agree that a Hutt-Exchange war would happen which is what the Republic is trying to deal with. I disagree with GOTO being alive, he was an AI droid. I would leave him dead since if he is alive there would be no war, the absence like Mira said in kotor2 caused a power vacuum and in this game you will see how bad it gets.

 

Darth Andeddu and the Malevolence, I love the idea of including them into the game.

I'm picturing since Darth Andeddu is an ancient Sith Lord, a person in the game will find his ancient holocron and release his soul and take over a host, by killing the host, just like in the comics. He could take over the Crime boss or the dark jedi. Once he is released then he brings in his Malevolence cult. We could even expand on this, just that once he is defeated he has to be able to get back to the holocron, and one of his Malevolence cult members takes him back to the planet where later he is reborn again during the Star wars legacy comics.

 

The key is why does the Republic need the Jedi, and the answer is there are individuals who are born force sensitive and use it to become dark side users. With no Jedi to consult the Republic politicians using the dark arts could lead to an empire or other sinister plans.

 

Logan

[Lord of Hunger]

Hey,

 

I like the added options with the Jedi factions.

The only this would work would be this would happen near the end of the game.

Not a problem. Thank you.

Lucien Draay is Darth Sion, its hinted in the kotor comics. Also in the comic he is very burned.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Sion

 

Darth Sion became Darth Sion before the Jedi Covenant.

Juhani i would leave as dead, either Revan killed her or she died during the Purge/or Kattarr.

I'm not sure about the accuracy of this, but I realized that I'd be hard to work her into the game without porting (which is illegal).

When I talk about pirates I'm really talking about an emerging Criminal Organization.

 

The Crime boss would be a dark force user, basically a self trained dark jedi.

Thanks for clarifying that. Sounds cool.

I agree that a Hutt-Exchange war would happen which is what the Republic is trying to deal with. I disagree with GOTO being alive, he was an AI droid. I would leave him dead since if he is alive there would be no war, the absence like Mira said in kotor2 caused a power vacuum and in this game you will see how bad it gets.

GOTO does not have to be permanently absent for a power vacuum to occur. As long as the Exchange was temporarily disabled it'd cause mass disruption. Hell, this war could be about him reasserting his position.

Darth Andeddu and the Malevolence, I love the idea of including them into the game.

I'm picturing since Darth Andeddu is an ancient Sith Lord, a person in the game will find his ancient holocron and release his soul and take over a host, by killing the host, just like in the comics. He could take over the Crime boss or the dark jedi. Once he is released then he brings in his Malevolence cult. We could even expand on this, just that once he is defeated he has to be able to get back to the holocron, and one of his Malevolence cult members takes him back to the planet where later he is reborn again during the Star wars legacy comics.

I'd like to see him more as the source of the current conflicts. There is a vacuum in the Jedi-Sith power balance and I see him moving in like Haazen to manipulate things and eventually assert himself as the supreme power in the Galaxy.

The key is why does the Republic need the Jedi, and the answer is there are individuals who are born force sensitive and use it to become dark side users. With no Jedi to consult the Republic politicians using the dark arts could lead to an empire or other sinister plans.

I'd actually be cool to see just that: Senators delving into Sith magic that you have to stop.

[logan23]

Hey,

 

You are right about Darth Sion. Thanks for the info.

 

Just because Juhani is most likely dead does not mean you can't have a Cathar as a character in the game, wither party member or Jedi.

 

I know you might want GOTO to be alive but if he is in the story he would pull away from the main Crime boss unless you plan to kill him off by using the New powerful Crime boss.

 

With Darth Andeddu, you can have the Crime boss learning about the dark side through the sith holocron. Sine the holocron holds his actual soul, Darth Andeddu would be pulling strings like you wished. Once the crime boss has gain enough power in the galaxy, Darth Andeddu will try to either take his life to be brought back or another. If its another character, then you can later have Darth Andeddu cross the crime boss and kill him.

 

Once Darth Andeddu is revived to life that's when all hell breaks lose.

 

You can even have it that the Jedi faction who does not join you joins the Darth Andeddu along with the leader of that faction as his apprentice.

 

The end result if you don't find away to heal the wounds of the Jedi factions, you will end up fighting them, this could be done with politics to force a situation as this. If not you will at least fight the Malevolence, and maybe some of the fallen Jedi become those Malevolence we see in the Jedi legacy comic.

 

Logan

[Druganator]

I like Logan23's idea of progressive and traditionalist Jedi factions. I think that the Lost Jedi (the Exile's Jedi) should be the Progressives while Bastila (by this time a Jedi Watchman), Juhani (Jedi Weaponsmaster), Lucien Draay, and others should be the Traditionalists. Zayne should be independent.

 

 

Maybe not pirate...they aren't really bright.

 

The Traditionalists should be as they sound: pretty much the previous administration with new people like Bastila and Juhani in charge.

 

As Druganator suggested, DS options as well.

4) Manipulate the Progressive Order and turn them to the Dark Side.

5) Manipulate the Traditionalist Order and turn them to the Dark Side.

6) Pull a Vader and kill 'em all. You can also declare your allegiance to the Sith.

7) Ignore everyone.

 

A Crime Boss with a Jedi apprentice?

 

I vote for them having no appearance in the mod. They probably died fighting the True Sith Empire.

 

On Pirate and Crime Factions: I was planning in my KOTOR3 for an Exchange-Hutt War to break out on Nar Shaddaa and Nal Hutta. Nar Shaddaa should be reused and Nal Hutta added so we can see massive fights on both worlds. Also, I think that GOTO (who is an AI) should be alive and well.

 

A couple of worlds that should be available in my opinion should be Telos (now restored to its former glory) and Coruscant (complete with the Jedi Temple, which should be under the control of the Traditionalists).

 

Regarding Darth Andeddu and the Malevolence: I was thinking that Andeddu could be the Unidentified Darth. In fact, I was thinking of having him be a former Sith Lord under the Triumvirate who has essentially learned from the teachings of the Trayus Academy at Malachor the secrets of immortality. The Malevolence cult is actively assassinating key Republic officials and framing various political factions in the Senate.

 

the only problem with bastila being a traditionalist is that she witnessed firsthand how little the old ways could do to stop the dark side. Juhani will definitely not be included as every time ive played through (after the first time i let her live and got through her whole backstory) i kill her. shes annoying and she doesnt really add anything to the plot except she continually pisses me off with stupid comments.

 

also i really dont want Andeddu to get into a body. i think someone using the holocron would be enough and im thinking that perhaps one of the main characters is corrupted and empowered by the holocron.

 

i reeeeeally do not want go to in this mod. he was the worst character IMO in TSL and i really wish he had just died in the game. Im thinking of having Vogga the hutt on Telos now. He takes over the military base after signing a treaty for fuel to citadel station.

 

Revan and the Exile will make no appearance. they will only be mentioned via party members and thats the last time im going to mention that.

 

and a problem with the malevolence cult is they dont exist until looooooong after the kotor series but im thinking that they could be created at the time of this story. some of the fallen jedi angered by whichever side wins (or angered that they have agreed to merge) go to seek the power of andeddu and end up becoming his slaves.

 

The Pirate lord wont be a shwashbuckler with a peg leg and a parrot. these pirates will be more along the lines of modern day pirates. tech savvy and ruthless.

 

And as of right now handmaiden is going to be leading the traditionalists, she claims it was the particular jedi who failed not their teachings. (she is angry at atris for not being who she said she was)

 

Hey,

 

I like the added options with the Jedi factions.

The only this would work would be this would happen near the end of the game.

 

Lucien Draay is Darth Sion, its hinted in the kotor comics. Also in the comic he is very burned.

 

Juhani i would leave as dead, either Revan killed her or she died during the Purge/or Kattarr.

 

When I talk about pirates I'm really talking about an emerging Criminal Organization.

 

The Crime boss would be a dark force user, basically a self trained dark jedi.

 

I agree that a Hutt-Exchange war would happen which is what the Republic is trying to deal with. I disagree with GOTO being alive, he was an AI droid. I would leave him dead since if he is alive there would be no war, the absence like Mira said in kotor2 caused a power vacuum and in this game you will see how bad it gets.

 

Darth Andeddu and the Malevolence, I love the idea of including them into the game.

I'm picturing since Darth Andeddu is an ancient Sith Lord, a person in the game will find his ancient holocron and release his soul and take over a host, by killing the host, just like in the comics. He could take over the Crime boss or the dark jedi. Once he is released then he brings in his Malevolence cult. We could even expand on this, just that once he is defeated he has to be able to get back to the holocron, and one of his Malevolence cult members takes him back to the planet where later he is reborn again during the Star wars legacy comics.

 

The key is why does the Republic need the Jedi, and the answer is there are individuals who are born force sensitive and use it to become dark side users. With no Jedi to consult the Republic politicians using the dark arts could lead to an empire or other sinister plans.

 

Logan

 

Im thinking that an up and coming politician who many see as good could be a sort of antichrist( fooling people into thinking he is a good person and such.) he will be much like palpatine only he involves himself with the Pirates and with the jedi a little more than you might think.

 

Not a problem. Thank you.

 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Sion

 

Darth Sion became Darth Sion before the Jedi Covenant.

 

I'm not sure about the accuracy of this, but I realized that I'd be hard to work her into the game without porting (which is illegal).

 

Thanks for clarifying that. Sounds cool.

 

GOTO does not have to be permanently absent for a power vacuum to occur. As long as the Exchange was temporarily disabled it'd cause mass disruption. Hell, this war could be about him reasserting his position.

 

I'd like to see him more as the source of the current conflicts. There is a vacuum in the Jedi-Sith power balance and I see him moving in like Haazen to manipulate things and eventually assert himself as the supreme power in the Galaxy.

 

I'd actually be cool to see just that: Senators delving into Sith magic that you have to stop.

 

Yes i think that some dark side force users manipulating other senators to aid theyre sort of dark councils will ( a group of dark side senators will have certain goals that they are manipulating other senators for)

 

Hey,

 

You are right about Darth Sion. Thanks for the info.

 

Just because Juhani is most likely dead does not mean you can't have a Cathar as a character in the game, wither party member or Jedi.

 

I know you might want GOTO to be alive but if he is in the story he would pull away from the main Crime boss unless you plan to kill him off by using the New powerful Crime boss.

 

With Darth Andeddu, you can have the Crime boss learning about the dark side through the sith holocron. Sine the holocron holds his actual soul, Darth Andeddu would be pulling strings like you wished. Once the crime boss has gain enough power in the galaxy, Darth Andeddu will try to either take his life to be brought back or another. If its another character, then you can later have Darth Andeddu cross the crime boss and kill him.

 

Once Darth Andeddu is revived to life that's when all hell breaks lose.

 

You can even have it that the Jedi faction who does not join you joins the Darth Andeddu along with the leader of that faction as his apprentice.

 

The end result if you don't find away to heal the wounds of the Jedi factions, you will end up fighting them, this could be done with politics to force a situation as this. If not you will at least fight the Malevolence, and maybe some of the fallen Jedi become those Malevolence we see in the Jedi legacy comic.

 

Logan

 

I think there are a lot of good ideas we just need to refine them and try to make sure we dont do anything thats too familiar but we want to make sure its not too alien either. the story is all sort of coming together in my head and logan, since you seem so invested in this id love for you to be part of the team once you're done with your prior obligations. (the magnificence that is RoR)

[SpartanPride]

Hmm... the pirates should be less organized. Every pirate colony should have a different leader, and be hostile to each other. I doubt they'd unite under one pirate banner.

[Druganator]

Hmm... the pirates should be less organized. Every pirate colony should have a different leader, and be hostile to each other. I doubt they'd unite under one pirate banner.

 

well there's a reason theyre organized and thats something your character will need to find out.

[SpartanPride]

But still, not all pirates would be loyal.

[Druganator]

But still, not all pirates would be loyal.

 

ill pm you with the details. its not for the commoners to hear

 

BY THE WAY, it appears Darth Balor has been posting in this forum. He knows who he is and i will ask that he not post in here again as i do not wish to be associated with him. you fooled most of us and i will not say your new identity i just ask that you please leave. dont post in here again. i will not be sharing any information with you regarding this mod. please leave.

 

EDIT: i should have a rough outline of the entire story by the end of this weekend. anyone helping me with the story will receive a draft in there LF mailbox.

[Lord of Hunger]

Hey,

 

You are right about Darth Sion. Thanks for the info.

No problem. Though I do find it interesting that the Dark Lords are entities that seem to transcend the people that become them. A person who is ruled by pain and uses it for substance can become Darth Sion, a person who is controlled by an unquenchable hunger will likely become Darth Nihilus, someone who has betrayed and was betrayed will be Darth Traya/Trayus, a master of mass deception and scheming could become Darth Sidious, and a man who sees the Sith as a vehicle to restore the galaxy may tack up the title of Darth Krayt. These personas are indeed separate entities that seem to take over the person who follows their path. Creepy huh?

Just because Juhani is most likely dead does not mean you can't have a Cathar as a character in the game, wither party member or Jedi.

I'd doubt that there'd be many Cathar Jedi out there. They're still recovering from the Mandalorian Wars.

I know you might want GOTO to be alive but if he is in the story he would pull away from the main Crime boss unless you plan to kill him off by using the New powerful Crime boss.

That could happen, considering that the combined efforts of Revan and the Exile have significantly disrupted the Exchange and they are now softened for other groups to kill off. Maybe this new Crime Boss might decide to take out the Exchange in order to lessen his competition.

 

Btw, he should have an organization of his own. Any ideas? I'm a bit empty on those at the moment.

With Darth Andeddu, you can have the Crime boss learning about the dark side through the sith holocron. Sine the holocron holds his actual soul, Darth Andeddu would be pulling strings like you wished. Once the crime boss has gain enough power in the galaxy, Darth Andeddu will try to either take his life to be brought back or another. If its another character, then you can later have Darth Andeddu cross the crime boss and kill him.

I like some of your ideas here, but what I was already thinking is that Andeddu and the Malevolence are already manipulating everything from behind the scenes. However, we could have the Malevolence secretly spreading Sith secrets to everyone (such as the Senators) in preparation for Andeddu's return, and then have them "invite" the Crime Boss over because not only is he a Force Sensitive but a strong one at that. However, his mind will be no match for Andeddu's

Once Darth Andeddu is revived to life that's when all hell breaks lose.

Considering that if Andeddu was Ancient Sith he would most likely have learned his secrets at the Trayus Academy, thus making him on par with Nihilus, Sion, and Traya, perhaps even worse.

You can even have it that the Jedi faction who does not join you joins the Darth Andeddu along with the leader of that faction as his apprentice.

I like that!

The end result if you don't find away to heal the wounds of the Jedi factions, you will end up fighting them, this could be done with politics to force a situation as this. If not you will at least fight the Malevolence, and maybe some of the fallen Jedi become those Malevolence we see in the Jedi legacy comic.

Full LS means only fighting against the Sith/Malevolence, partial LS means fighting against Sith and some Jedi, partial DS means Sith vs. Sith+you, and full DS means you verses everyone.

 

Also, there should be a point (probably mid game) where after being trained by Zayne you can decide on joining the Jedi or declaring yourself a Sith. If the former you become an LS prestige class and help Zayne heal the divide, if the latter you kill Zayne and become a DS prestige class.

the only problem with bastila being a traditionalist is that she witnessed firsthand how little the old ways could do to stop the dark side.

I disagree. If anything, her viewing of Revan's "redemption" could serve to reinforce her concept of how well the Jedi teachings work.

Juhani will definitely not be included as every time ive played through (after the first time i let her live and got through her whole backstory) i kill her. shes annoying and she doesnt really add anything to the plot except she continually pisses me off with stupid comments.

Aw, you don't like the catwoman? I personally like her, but that's my opinion.

also i really dont want Andeddu to get into a body. i think someone using the holocron would be enough and im thinking that perhaps one of the main characters is corrupted and empowered by the holocron.

Hmm...maybe we can have the Malevolence bring the Crime Lord to Andeddu as a new host, but Andeddu doesn't like him and just kills him. He then decides that the PC is a good choice.

i reeeeeally do not want go to in this mod. he was the worst character IMO in TSL and i really wish he had just died in the game. Im thinking of having Vogga the hutt on Telos now. He takes over the military base after signing a treaty for fuel to citadel station.

Well, it's your mod.

Revan and the Exile will make no appearance. they will only be mentioned via party members and thats the last time im going to mention that.

Glad to here.

and a problem with the malevolence cult is they dont exist until looooooong after the kotor series but im thinking that they could be created at the time of this story. some of the fallen jedi angered by whichever side wins (or angered that they have agreed to merge) go to seek the power of andeddu and end up becoming his slaves.

That could also work.

The Pirate lord wont be a shwashbuckler with a peg leg and a parrot. these pirates will be more along the lines of modern day pirates. tech savvy and ruthless.

Exactly.

And as of right now handmaiden is going to be leading the traditionalists, she claims it was the particular jedi who failed not their teachings. (she is angry at atris for not being who she said she was)

Cool. Perhaps with Mical leading the progressives?

[Druganator]

No problem. Though I do find it interesting that the Dark Lords are entities that seem to transcend the people that become them. A person who is ruled by pain and uses it for substance can become Darth Sion, a person who is controlled by an unquenchable hunger will likely become Darth Nihilus, someone who has betrayed and was betrayed will be Darth Traya/Trayus, a master of mass deception and scheming could become Darth Sidious, and a man who sees the Sith as a vehicle to restore the galaxy may tack up the title of Darth Krayt. These personas are indeed separate entities that seem to take over the person who follows their path. Creepy huh?

 

I'd doubt that there'd be many Cathar Jedi out there. They're still recovering from the Mandalorian Wars.

 

That could happen, considering that the combined efforts of Revan and the Exile have significantly disrupted the Exchange and they are now softened for other groups to kill off. Maybe this new Crime Boss might decide to take out the Exchange in order to lessen his competition.

 

Btw, he should have an organization of his own. Any ideas? I'm a bit empty on those at the moment.

 

I like some of your ideas here, but what I was already thinking is that Andeddu and the Malevolence are already manipulating everything from behind the scenes. However, we could have the Malevolence secretly spreading Sith secrets to everyone (such as the Senators) in preparation for Andeddu's return, and then have them "invite" the Crime Boss over because not only is he a Force Sensitive but a strong one at that. However, his mind will be no match for Andeddu's

 

Considering that if Andeddu was Ancient Sith he would most likely have learned his secrets at the Trayus Academy, thus making him on par with Nihilus, Sion, and Traya, perhaps even worse.

 

I like that!

 

Full LS means only fighting against the Sith/Malevolence, partial LS means fighting against Sith and some Jedi, partial DS means Sith vs. Sith+you, and full DS means you verses everyone.

 

Also, there should be a point (probably mid game) where after being trained by Zayne you can decide on joining the Jedi or declaring yourself a Sith. If the former you become an LS prestige class and help Zayne heal the divide, if the latter you kill Zayne and become a DS prestige class.

 

I disagree. If anything, her viewing of Revan's "redemption" could serve to reinforce her concept of how well the Jedi teachings work.

 

Aw, you don't like the catwoman? I personally like her, but that's my opinion.

 

Hmm...maybe we can have the Malevolence bring the Crime Lord to Andeddu as a new host, but Andeddu doesn't like him and just kills him. He then decides that the PC is a good choice.

 

Well, it's your mod.

 

Glad to here.

 

That could also work.

 

Exactly.

 

Cool. Perhaps with Mical leading the progressives?

 

The reason i still think Bastila would be progressive is because she saw that the jedi, unwilling to fight were weakened for the conflict to come, revan and malak nearly conquered the galaxy, revan defeated bastila and as he was about to turn her was fired upon by malak. malak then destroys almost all the remaining jedi and then by the end of the war only a few jedi remained. had the jedi gone to aid the republic in the beginning they would have been able to guide the headstrong jedi not to give into hatred and such. she would be for the jedi actually fighting and protecting the galaxy. not sitting back doing nothing as the jedi formerly preached.

 

i think mical would definitely be part of the progressives as he has an obvious illwill towards the old ways.

 

regarding andeddu, i'll pm you the details of the big baddy i have in store.

 

i dont think im going to have anyone killing zayne. if anything zayne will flee to help the jedi should you decide to become evil.

 

furthermore. the malevolence will play a role but it wont be what is expected.

[logan23]

Hey,

 

 

Considering that if Andeddu was Ancient Sith he would most likely have learned his secrets at the Trayus Academy, thus making him on par with Nihilus, Sion, and Traya, perhaps even worse.

 

I disagree on this since Darth Andeddu's clothing matches the time of the ancient Sith empire, back when Naga Sadow was around.

 

i dont think im going to have anyone killing zayne. if anything zayne will flee to help the jedi should you decide to become evil.

 

I agree that Zayne should not die, he could be the voice that narrates the ending....what become of the Jedi and the PC.

 

As for the lost Jedi, which faction would they belong too, we should first define the basic 3 beliefs that separate the 2 factions of Jedi.

 

Focus on new characters to represent these two parties, then after that can you see where Bastila, Brianna, Mical, all fit in to the frame....you have to write a rough pre-plot of how everything lead to this which will help you ground characters and events. This will also allow you to reveal history about characters as to where they were after the events of kotor2.

 

With Zayne, have him survive but through just foolish luck since that's how they portray him in the comics. I so so Jedi with a good heart but always getting into a rock and a hard place yet he survives it all.

 

I look forward to reading the rough draft:)

 

Logan

[Druganator]

im going to read the comics when i get to writing Zayne's lines. i want it to feel like its the same character. and every situation you and zayne get into will end with a lucky getaway or a capture as that seems to be on par with zaynes past ventures.

 

im thinking of having the lost jedi and bastila sort of having their own council on telos. theyre all discussing what to do about the current situation with the jedi, some of the lost jedi agree with the progressives and others the traditionalists. lets just say some of them may not be staying on telos for very long.

[Yatsookey]

im going to read the comics when i get to writing Zayne's lines. i want it to feel like its the same character. and every situation you and zayne get into will end with a lucky getaway or a capture as that seems to be on par with zaynes past ventures.

 

im thinking of having the lost jedi and bastila sort of having their own council on telos. theyre all discussing what to do about the current situation with the jedi, some of the lost jedi agree with the progressives and others the traditionalists. lets just say some of them may not be staying on telos for very long.

 

 

hmmm was just thinking bout this and the 3rd faction could be the lost ones, that could also fit my storyline perfectly once i finish the series they kinda lock in if u think about it

[Druganator]

hmmm was just thinking bout this and the 3rd faction could be the lost ones, that could also fit my storyline perfectly once i finish the series they kinda lock in if u think about it

 

could you refresh my memory on the lost ones? and tell me how itd fit im curious

[Yatsookey]

i could send you the script for the first one otherwise i havnt finished the scripts for the 2 other expansions PMing i 5.......4........3........2......1.......

 

Edit: srry had to delete the post had too many spoilers....... PMing short version drug

[HK-42]

Yat, I dont think the lost ones fit in at all. It would be best to keep them seperate, besides yours is K1 and this is TSL.

[Canderis]

Yes, you should prob stop trying to fit tlo in other mods as its kinda odd, not the mod you putting it into other mods.