Dalixam Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Meksilon no, no, no, no, NO!! I like ATTACK OF THE CLONES, but MI related then something like "Secret of Clone Island: Skywalker's Revenge". =mek= Wouldn't work, a Jedi is all good and therefore doesn't take revenge. That's why they changed the original name op episode VI from "Revenge of the Jedi" to "Return of the Jedi". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapezoid Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Dalixam Wouldn't work, a Jedi is all good and therefore doesn't take revenge. That's why they changed the original name op episode VI from "Revenge of the Jedi" to "Return of the Jedi". Bah, they take lots of revenge. They're just pompous bastards. "Please! We prefer to call it, 'Return'." They had political correctness a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raVen_image Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Trapezoid Bah, they take lots of revenge. They're just pompous bastards. "Please! We prefer to call it, 'Return'." They had political correctness a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. HeHe... actually, Luke's motivation was revenge... hence the original title. I still have the poster released in February '83, that bears the title "Revenge of the Jedi"... very covetted. Does anyone think that the prophesy of "the one who will bring balance to the force" refers to Luke, and not Anakin? It seems to me that Luke, who used the dark-side when he defeated Vader, was REALLY the one who achieved victory by balancing both sides of the force. Vader was mostly dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by raVen_image HeHe... actually, Luke's motivation was revenge... hence the original title. I still have the poster released in February '83, that bears the title "Revenge of the Jedi"... very covetted. Does anyone think that the prophesy of "the one who will bring balance to the force" refers to Luke, and not Anakin? It seems to me that Luke, who used the dark-side when he defeated Vader, was REALLY the one who achieved victory by balancing both sides of the force. Vader was mostly dark. I believe Georgie said it was Anakin, not Luke, who brought balance to the force around the time Ep. I was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raVen_image Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by remio I believe Georgie said it was Anakin, not Luke, who brought balance to the force around the time Ep. I was released. Time ...and the next two movies will tell, but I don't see a lot of the GOOD side in Anakin. Luke was the one who used both sides (the true meaning of balance). Perhaps the prophesy refers to Anakin begetting Luke. Although, on close examination of these movies, I sometimes think that "georgie" doesn't know his own story very well. There are some incongruities that need explaining. --spoken like a "monday-morning" director, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmatz Posted December 13, 2001 Author Share Posted December 13, 2001 Yeah, sometimes I think he forgot what he wrote (such as Episode II title, but I won't go into that again). Also, I think Luke balanced it, but Anakin could have by turning sorta light when he threw Palpatine down the core. So, he kinda was dark, but sorta light. That's the only idea I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeddlingMonk Posted December 14, 2001 Share Posted December 14, 2001 I think that it is meant to be Anakin. I can't remember where I read this, but I think the way he brings balance (whatever that is) is by killing the emperor. Palpatine/Sidious was the master and Vader the apprentice; and since Vader went the way of all cybernetics soon after, finito Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raVen_image Posted December 14, 2001 Share Posted December 14, 2001 This is an interesting examination. It begins to defy what we believe the Jedi to be. We've always seen the Jedi as being on the side of righteousness, and the Sith as being on the side of profane. But if the prophesy is about BALANCE, then both the Jedi and the Sith are fanatics, since they represent one side over the other. Balance suggests that BOTH sides are necessary. So, while we have always been on the side of the Jedi...they are really just as bad as the Sith. Yin and Yang is the concept being played out here. One side cannot be used more than the other, or you bring the force OUT of balance. The Sith are necessary, and therefore, just as needed as the Jedi. Or perhaps, neither are needed...both orders are bad. The Jedi would have as much to lose as the Sith if balance were achieved, because their teachings would be brought into question. This would explain why Yoda and Windu were worried about the prophesy being fullfilled. (they were ready to dismiss Anakin even after he was tested) The Jedi order MUST be abolished if balance is to be gained. The Sith order must also go. Since we know the future-history of the Star Wars Universe...it IS Vader that destroys the Jedi, and ultimately destroys the Sith when he kills Palpatine. Funny, I always saw Yoda as a hero...but he is really another religeous fanatic. He takes the force and perverts it with too much peace and goodness. If we believe in the prophesy, then Vader is the TRUE hero of this saga. OK... I am ready to accept Anakin/Vader as the one who brings balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmatz Posted December 14, 2001 Author Share Posted December 14, 2001 We have turned you to the dark/light side. Whatever side you were, it's opposite that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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