keo718 Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 My goodness.... A GREAT Improvement. That is near perfect. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkie Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 That likeness is awsome, I think this is going to be the best looking model yet, Way to go man! less than 2 months from start , now 7+ cool:cool: now 8+ and tina got the job 9.5 since I quit now man 11+ since I quit now, tina is 3 months+ in new job! 1 year anniversary today! Now March19/04,1 year 10 months 19 days since I quit, Tina Full Time! 2 years today! Happy anniversary Another year today thats 3 now or 36 months, Yipee! Approved for new apt. today 04,07,06 ,Cypress Gardens! 4 years today! Happy day, also first day back at Cypress Gardens too! 7 months back and the deepest snow I've ever seen here last night. Dec 24/06 discovered the importance of respect. I will refuse to allow acts of disrespect or relationships with others who are disrespectful. Dec 25/06 Xmas at Cypress Gardens right now. 2014 finally moved Yipee! Mar03/07 5 years since I quit today May01/07 Yipee! S.B. card sent Jan 05/08 Excellent! I respect and love Tina and I will never bring up Klaus and that past,April 9/ 2008. 6 years today Yipee! May 01/08 Tina's last day at work today, only two more days left at Cypress Gardens, Aug. 29/2008. Been on the road for 5 months now. I now know the freedom of living anywhere I chose in a RV\Camper is how I want to live. Jan 29/09. I'm at lundbom right now April 15-09 ,12:16 am. amazing. Happy 7th anniversary, 7 years today, I'm still at Lundbom, May 1/09. I'm at Dragon Lake And I caught a Rainbow 6 hours ago, it's my birthday today, Aug 19/ 09. I'm still at Dragon Lake tonight but now I'm heading back to Forest tomorrow, Sept 24-09. I'm 200 feet from Largemouth Bass right now at Vaseux Lake, 7 and a half months of camping & going back today. WOW! Nov 30/09. Dec 15 and SB settlement letter sent back @ BCRV for over 2 weeks cool! Dec 15/09. May 1/2010 I'm at Lundbom and now heading to Forest in 10 hrs , Happy 8th anniversary! ! minute to midnight at forest lake!!!!! 8th anniversary I'm at Dragon lake on Aug 3rd SK's given 2100 total since June, We'll see what's next. April 20/2011 Inga 7.5 with P.C. , got Airstream since Aug 15, 2010, and PWD since June 2010. Leaving BCRV in 11 days for Dragon Lake. We'll see what's next. June 2/2011, 9 years 1 month-2days since I quit man. Inga 9 months with P.C. Still at BCRV Tina wants to stay to be with Mom. Airstream is great ,I love it. We'll see what's next. June 9/2011 Klaus refuses to help us stay on June 7, for Inga's last days of life, so now off we must go to Legion beach on 12th. It was the biggest confrontation against him ever. Inga sobbed Tina confronted him and also called him an Evil man. we'll see what's next. Sept 13/11, Been at dragon lake for 3 months, beside Les. Klaus called Tina and Inga on Last week. I hope everything will be okay. Tina can't handle it. Oct 1/2011 Still at Dragon Lake. 9 years 5 months today. Inga passed away 19.5 hours ago. Jan 5/2012 Ocean view having baba site is cool by a cedar tree in forest. Tina can be wierd like tonight. Less than 4 months till 10 year aniversary. cool! Jan 30/2012 Wiki Site is finnished cool. Feb 23/2012 Got apt 23rd flr view suite ocean side at Sunset, will see it on 29th. WOW! Mar 27/2012 Apt signed for and paid for cool! move in 2 days. Whatta view! May 1st/2012 its my 10th year anniversary today, happy anniversary!. So cool! In new apt for over a month. Got new bar height tables today, too see amazing view! awesome! Cheers! June 27th/2012 10 years to the day I made my 1st internet forum post, WOW! Aug 19th/2012 50th birthday today, Now in my 50's my first post I was still in my 30's. Dec 5th;2012 Tina sent best email ever to Klaus it's over, YEAH! Mar 5th/2014 11 years 10 months 5 days ,I get to start smoking again (vaping) it arrives today yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaJo Kesea Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Klorel, Awesome! You fixed the eyelids so i'm not making a suggestion here, but let me explain why the eyes needed to be fixed, and why the community was going nuts about it. When Mace, or any person for that matter, tilts his head down and looks up, more of the eye is exposed. In the movie, and in pictures, Samuel does this a lot for a dramatic, fierce looking effect. However, when you have him looking straight on like that, like the models do in the game, leaving his eyes big like that would have given the impression that they are popping out of his head! Excellent fix. I have a hell of a time with this too. Notice there is a slight difference in color between your face skin and head skin? That's what is causing the line across his forehead. It's not an easy fix, but getting it right will make a world of difference. (I could be wrong on this, though. If that is a ridge on the model, plese smooth it out.) I also agree on moving the corners of his mouth slightly down. Right now he looks quite pleasant and blissful. With a slight adjustment to the mouth you can make him look ready to crash any party. And last but not least, you're on the right track with the eye color. However, I would follow Arco's advice and change the white to a more sandy off-white. I'd also darken the iris, and give him a little more pupil. His eyes shouldn't be totally black, but they should have colors close enough that you "think" they are all black from a distance, but realize they are not up close. The reflected light in the eyes should also be no more than a pinprick of white. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorel Posted June 27, 2002 Author Share Posted June 27, 2002 Thanks for all the support guys. I'm thinking about redoing the eye texture, or atleast severly modifying the one i have. Also, I'm going to play with the mouth idea, but whatever I do will be very subtle, so dont look for anything resembling a frown, but trust me, he will look meaner than any ill-tempered sea-bass with fricken laser beams attached to its head. have a nice day oh by the way, do you guys want the eye color to change based on team colors? does anyone have any preferences on how i should go about this. There are basically 2 possibilities: 1- i could make a red sith mace (completely origional) and a blue jedi mace or... 2- just have the normal mace but change the cloth colors 3 - [just for laughs ] have the blue version of the mace do blue steel, and the red version do magnum. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keo718 Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Just thought I'd post a body shot as a reference pic. http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thejediorder/index_movie2.html The pic is at the bottom, just click on it. Its a little far away, but you get a good feel of his proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimking Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by OCH That looks much better Klorel. If you could move the sides of the mouth down a bit, I'd say it's perfect. hey quit hole picking is damn good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 The improvement to the eyelids is monumental. They look just perfect now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 i have to say that, in my humble opinion, i have found the ultimate taunt for mace using an actual clip of SLJ's voice. i was watching sportscenter this morning, and a commercial for the ESPY awards came on, hosted by SLJ himself. it talks about how he wants to get "in character" for each of the various awards ... this particular commercial centering on the best female athlete. and i quote ... I AM WOMAN, HEAR ME ROAR! how absolutely awesome would it be to hear this bad@$$ jedi master taunting his opponent this way? btw, don't take me seriously on this one. i am, without a shadow of a doubt, joking around. i just couldn't resist. oh, and klorel, the head is looking *BLEEP* incredible. it's eerie how accurate it looks. keep up the great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sounds Risky Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by slimking hey quit hole picking is damn good!! Hey, I just want to make sure the model is the best it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorel Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 thanks once again. Can anyone locate a detailed ref pic of the back of SLJ's head? since he's a celebrity, they always photograph his face. if not, maybe just the back of some other bald guys head would do, but SLJ's is preferable. i've looked, and all i could find is rogain and propecia (dont ask) adds- lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyder121 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 look for ep2 pics there should be Samuel.L.Jackson:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorel Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 I have, but only straight on and some side pics, nothing that details what the back looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sounds Risky Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Here's what I was able to get. It looks like he has two creases going from ear to ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorel Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 Awesome, those should work great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JangoFett41 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Well Klorel, "I guess you can Dere-lick my balls, capi-tan." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorel Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 JangoFett41, "I can Dere-lick my own balls thank you very much" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altimira Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 "Damn its that Klorel, hes so hot right now!" "relax, dont do it..." "Its not everyday that your freinds die in a freak gasoline fight accident" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorel Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 can anyone find the "i dont think so" line from the new trailor? i'd like to use it as one of the sounds when mace gets hit or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorel Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 Well, heres some pics of the back of his head. Who would have thought that the back was almost as hard as the front. anyways, tell me what you think. I'm thinking about maybe adding some highlights, but not sure where as of yet cause the light source was different in almost all my ref. pics, but i'll figure it out. or maybe i'll leave it as is, whatever looks better i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keo718 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 The actual back view of his head is very good. However concerning the angled shot, His head is too curved. If you could decrease the curve and push the back in a litle bit, youd have it. Great work though, its really coming along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klorel Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 Its not too curved, it was, then i fixed it earlier. in the screenshots its a good curvature, in all the ref pics where you can see the back of his head he's looking down. that gives the head the flattened look. so when he looks forward it would bulge out a little. So the skins good then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sounds Risky Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Looks good. It does need some kind of highlight though, but I'm just not sure where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keo718 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 If you have an email address I could email you what I mean. I edited the photo in photoshop. Or if you could tell me how to attach a file to the messageboard I can do it that way. Trust me, I don't know the model software, but I am an artist too. I hope my critcism has been percieved as constructive and not just nitpicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keo718 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 All Im saying is that from the side profile, the back of Sam Jacksons head is nearly flat, Look at the pictures. And thats important sice when you use him you only see the back of his head. But I know its harder to do a headshape for a bald head, than for a full head of hair. Leave me an e-mail, so I can send you this pic of my photoshop adjustments. I guess you can decide from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimking Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 what pic are you gonna use for the icon when playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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