zerowingzero Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 I was just wondering how people set up their keyboard to play JO. i personaly have arrow keys as movement, shift as crouch and control as jump and various force powers on the numpad. you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenroth Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 My personal setup differs between force and no force game types. For no force duels I use Arrow keys for forward,back,and strafeing Mouse1 for attack Mouse2 for jump Mouse3 for crouch Mousewheelup for change saber stance Control to shift between walk and run. For Force duels I normally use the same except for mouse3 and the mousewheel Mouse3 is normally absorb mousewheelup is push mousewheeldown is pull. Other force powers(dont really use many others) are bound to things like del,end,ins,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Anus Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 arrow keys???? E,D,S,F <--the only way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinWalker Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Now THIS is the most interesting thread I've seen in a while... I say that because I'm constantly modifying the way I have the keyboard set up in JK2. I use: Mouse1 attack mouse2 attack2 mouse3 jump (little thumb button on the side of my mouse) wheelup bacta wheeldown absorb kp_end strafe left kp_ins strafe right kp_4 crouch delete forcespeed pagedown throw pageup pus home mindtrick end protect backspace heal \ sabercycle and there are a few others that I usually bind for taunts, etc. I had kp_downarrow binded to say "SkinWalker Counts Coup!" during a recent FFA where I took all of my force points out of saber and put them in mindtrick, protect & heal. I LMAO through that game and actually made 9 kills (coming in third) with the stun baton! It went something like this: Hear footsteps... enable Force_Distract (mind trick), shock unsuspecting Jedi on the A@@, "SkinWalker Counts Coup!", run like hell! SKinWalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karismatik Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 WASD for movement mouselook button1 primary button 2 secondary button 3 (wheel button) change stance wheel up push wheel down pull space jump (no this won't ruin my keyboard, i don't jump all that much!!!) x crouch (easier to access than c, b/c my thumb's on jump) q force select left e force select right f use force power (usually seeing) z absorb works alrite for me, i don't use a huge variety of powers, just a whole lot of saber moves (though i can't get enough of chopping ppl up with the rotating saber throw one , not the blender tho, still working that one out???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMexican Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 WASD - movement mouse1&2 - attack1&2 mouse3 - mindtrick/grip (powers i rarely use so accidently pressing mouse3 doesnt do much) mhweel - push/pull ctrl & alt - funky color1 (sabercolour) scripts c - crouch space - jump q, e, f, z, x, \ - force powers, dependent on whether dark.cfg or light.cfg is on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brujah Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 WASD-movement E-push R-pull C-Grip/absorb X-Drain/heal Q-saber stance 3-speed Mouse1-attack mouse2-Jump Mouse wheel up- saber stance Mouse3- Second mode weapon (throw) J,K,L- accept duel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluezman Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 I can only suggest to switch from arrow keys for movement to ESDF or even RDFG. It did a huge skill increase for me and I just yesterday showed this to a friend and watched him get better instantly. Basically the reason is that you need way more keys to play JO than with any other FPS game I played so far. I stuck with arrow keys for movement my entire life and it took me some time to make the decision ta change this. But it is definately worth it. Actually I first changed to ESDF and then to RDFG to open up even more keys. I now have all force powers within close reach. Here goes my setup: RDFG - movement y - crouch a,s,e,w,q,t,z (y on US keyboard),h - force powers j - taunt n- use held item shift -walk < - use tab - use bacta CAPS LOCK - turn saber on/off STRG - private duel space - alternate fire mouse wheel up - next weapon mouse wheel down - previous weapon 3rd mouse button (click mouse wheel) - change saber stance right mouse button - jump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyclonite Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Saber only no force duell settings: W = forward S = back A = strafe left D = strafe right C = crouch SHIFT = sec. Attack STRG = walk MOUSE1 = prim. Attack MOUSE2 = jump MOUSE3 = saberattackcycle some speacial settings MOUSE4 = swipe attack left to right MOUSE5 = swipe attack right to left Q = forward lundge (auto switch to blue) E = flip forward & attack downward (auto switch to yellow) G = forward jump & downward hack (auto switch to red) on keypad (i dont use it): 1 = switch to blue 2 = switch to yellow 3 = switch to red thats mainly it i think greets zyclonite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluezman Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 some speacial settings MOUSE4 = swipe attack left to right MOUSE5 = swipe attack right to left Q = forward lundge (auto switch to blue) E = flip forward & attack downward (auto switch to yellow) G = forward jump & downward hack (auto switch to red) on keypad (i dont use it): 1 = switch to blue 2 = switch to yellow 3 = switch to red What you call "special settings" is actually using scripts for saber moves. Some people consider this cheating, I only think it is pretty lame. Most people doing this at least don't post this in a public forum. Bah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyclonite Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 modifying the game is considered as cheating.... only playing around with scripts is only "intelligent" i think ;-) or would you say playing with colored names is cheating cause its not implemented in the player settings? if using binds and aliases is considered as cheating, this option wouldnt be implemented in the engine ?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sb.Lone Starr Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 7YUI to move Mouse to look Mouse1 to primary Mouse2 to jump Mouse3 does nothing, because all mouse3-buttons sucks. Scroll does secondary fire (both up and down) ERTDFGCVBOPJKLÖ for various stuff, like force powers. Space changes stance. And 1-0 (except 7) does various sayings, like "You are to refer to me as idiot, not you captain!" and "Uh oh, here comes the Bad Year Blimp!". Wheee = ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluezman Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 only playing around with scripts is only "intelligent" i think ;-) Granted, it takes some intelligence to create a script, bind it and use it. "Playing around" with it as in "testing it with bots" is also fine in my books. Making gameplay easier against human beings you are competing with is cheating. modifying the game is considered as cheating.... I disagree, this is no valid definition for cheating. "Modifying gameplay in a way that makes it easier for one person and giving this person an unfair advantage over the others" gets closer to the point. Think about it: If you are in red stance and want to do the blue lunge move, it requires you to change your saber stance to blue (need to press one button), then perform the move (need to press crouch, then forward + attack). You with your script can do it by pressing one button only, giving you an unfair advantage: It is more difficult for your opponent to anticipate this move, he doesn't see the saber stance change and he doesn't see you crouch. or would you say playing with colored names is cheating cause its not implemented in the player settings? Of course not, since this does not affect gameplay. if using binds and aliases is considered as cheating, this option wouldnt be implemented in the engine ?!?!Just because an option is not implemented in the game it doesn't mean that enabling it is cheating. As I said, the relevant criteria is if it affects gameplay and gives an unfair advantage to the person that uses it. For example: unlocking the "hidden" Reborn models doesn't give you an unfair advantage, the model just features different colors. Unlocking the (with 1.03 removed) invisible Morgan Katarn model IS cheating because it gives you an unfair advantage (opponent cannot see you anymore). You can also look in the forums, there is a massive thread where the question "is using scripts cheating?" is discussed. There the community stated their opinion. Decide for yourself... Sure, you can come up with some technical definition for cheating, according to which your behavior is not cheating. Still the community judges it as that, so you will be considered a cheater. There are people, who don't care about that (take a look at http://www.myg0t.com ), however if you do care, I'd suggest not to use these scripts against human opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeniir Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 <diclaimer>I'm real new to JO, so i'm still refining</disclaimer> My standard layout for Q3 based games is: F1-forward 3 -backward C - crouch (standard bind) This lets me rest middle finger on f1, pointer on 3, and thumb on space bar, just below C. I don't use strafe... instead I do alot of running backward while turning, mid-air twists, etc. JO however, makes strafing manditory (well, for sabers, but I'm in this game for no-force saber duelling). My current setup to deal with this uses: mouse1 - Attack (standard bind) mouse3 - Strafe left (thumb button on MS optical mouse) mouse2 - strafe right (right-click) These make the attack combos like horizontal swing very easy to execute. Since I don't use force, I don't need alt-atack (saber throw), but I put it on mouse5 just incase. The other change i'm contemplating is putting crouch on ALT... I seem to use crouch more in JO than Q3, and sliding my thumb left to alt is quicker than going up to C. --Moe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyclonite Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 i see it a little different... some ppl train that long until they have their moves automated, i write the script as my way of training - and im not the guy who only copies scripts and im not that one that makes them public! and with no skill you will not get better with good scripts... i thought this community is a little bit better as in CounterStrike but looks like the same :-( until there are no gamemodifying cheats like in CS (and i hope there will not be any in future!) - keep kewl ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Arrow keys for forward,back,and strafeing Mouse1 for attack Mouse2 for sec. attack Mouse3 for sentry gun 'l' change saber stance Enter for walk/run Ctrl for jump Shift for crouch Mousewheel up and down are weapon change next and prev. keypad: 4 heal 1 use force 2 previous force 3 next force 5 pull 6 push (or push and pull changed, I don't know I mostly use 1 for that) D for seeker drone B for bio canister and spacebar was for something but I can't remember whatfor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluezman Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 i see it a little different... some ppl train that long until they have their moves automated, i write the script as my way of training - and im not the guy who only copies scripts and im not that one that makes them public! and with no skill you will not get better with good scripts... i thought this community is a little bit better as in CounterStrike but looks like the same :-( until there are no gamemodifying cheats like in CS (and i hope there will not be any in future!) - keep kewl ;-) Hey, I am as kewl as ice I didn't say, playing with scripts does not require any skill at all. But it still gives you an unfair advantage over non-scripters. Check out this thread: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53984 You will find some people who agree with you but the majority will consider this cheating. As I said: ask yourself if you want yourself being considered as a cheater. If you don't care, use your scripts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinWalker Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 - and im not the guy who only copies scripts and im not that one that makes them public! and with no skill you will not get better with good scripts... yada...yada...yoda...yee.... I didn't say, playing with scripts does not require any skill at all. ...... et-fricking-cetera... blah.. blah.... YATBASB (Yet Another Thread Becomes A Script Bitch). "Ooooohhhh..... you cheated!" "Oooohh.... it's in the engine... I'm L33T!" "It go's against my/the/a code!" "But it takes time/skill/no-how/effort/haxor-skill to do it..." "Wahaah..... don't do it.... your lame.":ball: "You do your thing... I'll do mine." Okay... I finished the YATBASB for everyone... back to the original topic.... Here's a Keyboard setting.... Alt-F4 Exits YATBASB threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluezman Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyclonite Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 *lol* for newbies this lame speach would look l33t i still hate that day, gamer heard the word "hacker", cause since that day they though they are some.... i realy fear you "SkinWalker" (one that talks like he was programing the *nix kernel - and infact copied a suse ver from a warez site ) bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluezman Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Originally posted by zyclonite *lol* for newbies this lame speach would look l33t i still hate that day, gamer heard the word "hacker", cause since that day they though they are some.... i realy fear you "SkinWalker" (one that talks like he was programing the *nix kernel - and infact copied a suse ver from a warez site ) bye Excuse me, I didn't get your point. I think he just wanted us to get back to the topic. (He DOES have a point there ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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