remark 666 Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 i'll do the tutorial...as long as you keep the "unliked" hair type (maybe give the pony tail to the CTF version) and yes, a lot different then standard Q3 editing. don't have much free time but i'll try to do what I can, give me a list of programs you use to edit/create stuff with (preferably Milkshape and 3ds max, those are easy to say how to do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remark 666 Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 if I don't have the time to finish the tutorial then I'll give it to my friend rio and he'll finish it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Librarian Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Stick with the pony tail in my opinion ... just my opinion .. or do both .. even better ... Just one thing .... perhaps make her face a little sharper .. Its just that in the books, they describe her as having a sharp face blah blah ... it just looks a little .. wide .. perhaps its just the angle .. And perhaps make the clothing a little less defined on the buttocks ... she's meant to have clothing over that no? It looks like shes got a severe wedge ... No criticisms .. I like your work .. just a few suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhold X Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 everythign is prefect on it. I just want the gun on the hip like 90% of stuff I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshara Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Since you suggested earlier people voting after you did the ponytail... Looking at both, I must say I still prefer the full head of hair over the ponytail. It looks great and I can tell you spent alot of time doing it, but it seems a little too kempt for a Mara Jade character. Your first version actually makes me think of Mara Jade from pictures I'd seen and from my mind's eye - the new version doesn't have the same effect, and could be another female character easily. She appears a little softer and prettier. If you stick with the ponytail version, please consider allowing a few strands to fall loosely, as if she has been exerting herself and doesn't care how "pretty" she looks. That could be added to your current model without having to completely start over again, which I know isn't fun. Or consider the braided look from the "Vision of the Future" novel cover. I guess my wish is that a true Mara Jade model have that raw sexual power which none of the other female characters have. Mara would definitely be the most "masculine" female of the Star Wars universe. I don't mean "butch", and I don't mean "sexy". I'm referring to a quality of female, like a lioness or a tigeress. That first link which Darkhold posted has that quality... http://www.starwarssource.net/Characters/Mara_Jade/mara_jade.php Just suggestions... I usually don't comment to model threads, but Mara Jade is one of my favorite characters from this universe. My wife has commented on the lack of support for female characters in this game, so I've been working on a rewrite of the normal SP adventure with a female lead - including audio replacements for Kyle and editing out Kyle's name from other dialogue. A good Mara Jade model would be my first choice as a lead. She's the only female character in the Star Wars universe who would go on a solo mission without another guy or a wookie around. Probably one of the reasons Luke fell for her. ggrrOOwwlll... Great work so far. Thank you for giving your time to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradFu Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 I vote for the un-tied hair. Like in your first shot, except about half as puffy. I DO like that ponytail head, too, but not necessarily as Mara. I think you should do another model later using that head, maybe a female Prequel-era Jedi, that would be awesome! BradFu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanodagiardino Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 If you can, you could do the hair has alternate surfaces. So for example you have the pony tail in the blue version, the normal hair(revised in the back) in the default version and some unkept loose hair in the red version. so everyone is going to be happy. I personaly like all of them and are both in Mara Jade stile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Antilles Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 I like the idea of the pony tail with some strands of hair fallen down around her face... Sounds cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luuke Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 i like both, with open hair or with pony tail! maybe you can include two versions? anyway, i know that would be a lot of extra work, so no problem if you just decide for one. just great work!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droidekas Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 I vote for the multiple version! Next time you will think twice before posting such a good model with variant! Very good job, she is very pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_One Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 If you want i do both. One with the tail and one with the first hair. Like the Lday Brenna model she has lots of skins and models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Peretti Posted June 12, 2002 Author Share Posted June 12, 2002 okey dokey, I've read over this thread and there is alot of contreversy towards the hair, so this is my proposition: This is the version I will model for the time being http://www.ffurg.com/casting_call/marajade/mara-mots.jpg In my eyes she isn't connected with the Mara Jade from the books. She's just a character who bears her name. I've always wanted to model her because I was a big fan of JK and MotS. So she kinda carries a sentiment for me from playing her long ago. As for the more well known Mara (who married Luke Skywalker etc) she doesn't really appeal to me as the one in the game does. Infact I wish they made her into an original character for the game instead because I always felt that the game version never tied in with the book version. But I do like the hair on the first image too. So I'm gonna model the book version (where she is wearing all black) some time after this one. The pony tail head is looking good. I added strands last night after I posted that picture and they certainly make all the difference. One question I have is that the poly count has gone over 3000 (about 3400). Does anyone know if this is ok, or will I get a "too many vertices" error message when I try to get her into the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C]-[33S3/\/\@N Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 I'd just like to say, man, you certainly know how to model a female with a bootylicious rack. All i can say is that i cant wait to use this model, and what a GREAT ASS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_One Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Messa thinks that 2 days after the release of this model the forum will be flooded with naked Mara Jade's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dogg Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 I like the ponytail look. Those loose strands of hair would look cool too, something like this, a la Lara Croft: It doesn't have to be exactly like that, that's just for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droidekas Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Depending on the program you are using, you could have bones and tags in your polycount. No chance of seeing all three version in one pack then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Antilles Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Whoohoo! That's the kind of Mara Jade I like to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 mara jade doesn't really seem to me to be the kind of girl who's really into her looks. she's gonna wake up in the morning, pull her hair back from her face, and get down to business. even though tavion and jan both have their hair pulled back, adding those loose strands of hair (a slightly disheveled look) makes ms. jade look like the down-and-dirty, no frills character she is. tavion and jan have hair that reminds me of a librarian ... pulled back really tight giving them a perpetual headache ... mara's too "relaxed" to worry about that. the exar kun model (by sithlord-II, i think) has a couple of "loose" strands of hair hanging in his face, and i think it works. maybe they could move (with "other" things) a la the tutorial by remark 666 ... if he EVER makes it. j/k Edward, i've used a 3d max tutorial for low-polyogn human characters, and it CLAIMS that "later in the exercise techniques are introduced to reduce the number of polygons." don't know if it's true or not, but check it out just in case: http://www.3dlinks.com/tutorials/max/max_tutorials.cfm?tutorial=lpindex hope the tut helps you. keep up the great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord_44 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Are you skinning the model or is someone else? I like it so far. I think several versions is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshara Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Edward So according to what you said in your last post you're not really doing a Mara Jade model - you're doing a remodel from a character in the older Jedi Knight/MOTS game series. That's cool... it's your model - have fun. But then this thread shouldn't be titled "The Return of Mara Jade" - it should be called the "The Return of Mara Mots." Mara Jade - the Emperor's Hand - is Luke Skywalker's arch-enemy, lover, and wife. At least in the Star Wars universe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesentac Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Originally posted by Akshara Edward So according to what you said in your last post you're not really doing a Mara Jade model - you're doing a remodel from a character in the older Jedi Knight/MOTS game series. That's cool... it's your model - have fun. But then this thread shouldn't be titled "The Return of Mara Jade" - it should be called the "The Return of Mara Mots." Mara Jade - the Emperor's Hand - is Luke Skywalker's arch-enemy, lover, and wife. At least in the Star Wars universe... That really doesnt make sense. That's mara jade and she was in MOTS. Since he's not "converting" the model, it's made from scratch. So it is her "return". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Great job! I can't wait to see this model released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord_44 Posted June 14, 2002 Share Posted June 14, 2002 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Peretti Posted June 14, 2002 Author Share Posted June 14, 2002 hey everyone! Don't worry, I haven't abandoned this thread. I'm planning to start mapping the model on monday. So expect some updates next week. In the mean time please feel free to add any design or technical ideas you'd like to point out. see ya'll later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord_44 Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 Luke would want this to be bumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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